DUST Search - Sticky:Aiming and control system in general

Eggress wrote:

CCP Wolfman wrote:

Hi guys,

Since the last update weGÇÖve been happy to hear that many of you feel the DS3 has improved. We are still actively working on the controls and here is the latest news:

*We are currently tuning the input curve giving you a greater degree of control over fine aiming with the DS3. We will be testing this internally and if we feel it is successful we will roll it out to you as soon as we can. More news on that when we have it.

*We know that some of you donGÇÖt like full input acceleration on the DS3, then again some players do. ItGÇÖs tricky to make everyone happy! We will look in to adding the option to disable it in a future update but that isnGÇÖt something we can add right now. Also, to clear up any misunderstanding, full input acceleration is not something weGÇÖve added this release, it was also present in the last build.

*We found the DS3 full input acceleration was being effected by the sensitivity settings meaning higher sensitivities would reach max rotation speed faster. This should not be the case now, it was fixed in the last update.

*We have a fix for a bug that prevented updated MKB sensitivity settings being read by the game. This means (once fixed) that the sensitivity spikes you have been experiencing on certain settings will be gone. It also means you will be playing with the correct settings which you have not been up until this point due to the bug. We hope to get this update to you in around a week. We will continue to make further improvements after that point and we will be looking forward to getting more feedback (and acting on it) once the update is out. In the meantime we will continue internal testing and let you know when you can expect us to roll out any new updates.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

In fact, it is EXTREMELY easy to make everyone happy.
You give them a full suite of settings for things lookaccel, sensitivy, and deadzones in and out of "aiming" mode.

You know.
Like the sliders we had available in earlier builds which were inexplicably removed.


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gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 15	Posted - 2013.05.11 08:27:00 - [1] - Quote well seeing as your fixing the controls ccp think you can please make the ads faster or at least let us set a speed as hip firing from like 35m is not what you want right ccp.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 15	Posted - 2013.05.13 02:19:00 - [2] - Quote so ccp any news on the ds3 controls. like whats rong with them do you have a fix yet or are your testing. some news would be nice.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 16	Posted - 2013.05.13 22:30:00 - [3] - Quote ccp i have not played in the last 3 days do in large part because of the aiming problem so think we can get some info seeing as tomorrow is the 14.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 18	Posted - 2013.05.14 02:18:00 - [4] - Quote i am to the point that ill just go back to battelfield at least there people cant jump an strafe past being shot an the controlls there at least work. get rid of this dumb ass noob jumping shooting strafeing bs an make people pay for being dumb dont reward them ccp. just now played a game with a pro user an all he had was a shotgun an was jumping all over the place an strafeing back an forth like a noob you add that on top of the bs aiming an its just no win an no fun. say what you all will as long as jumping 4ft an super fast strafeing is in this game the aim wil never be right. people need to move slower some what to even out the good player from the great as long as that is there people will use it like a crutch. if i catch you by yourself an can kill you i should beable to do so without you jumping an strafing all over the place. this is a team game not the i can riverdane an jump past your shots game. ccp you need to understand that all games that have this as a featuer make team work less important when i can just dodge being shot what do i need a team for it will just slow me down. an that is how some of the people play it. its because you reward jumping an strafeing ccp an not the team play of oh look 3 of us got you an look you cant riverdane your way out of it or strafe past all 5 of my squad mates shots.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 21	Posted - 2013.05.14 15:21:00 - [5] - Quote the aim is a bit better but the cqc is still off an that is do in large part becuse of the strafe speed. an the aim in ads is still slow why. ccp do you want hip fire to be the only means of shooting in this game if so remove the ads. an as far as the strafe speed if it is lowerd a bit the new aim system will have a better chance of working an cqc will not be so much of a pain.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 24	Posted - 2013.05.15 00:15:00 - [6] - Quote i keep saying it but people act like thay dont see what i am saying. the speed at witch we move in this game is just to fast it needs to be a bit slower so the aim system can keep up. you can try all you like to make the aim better but if people move at like mach 6 speed in this game what time do you have to train you sight on them. an people wounder why thay cant hit anything .what was the last shooter in the past 5 years where you can run this fast. this is why people move slower in real shooters so you have more time to aim and not this arcade sht where people just run past being shot. you dont see people running at mach 6 in cod farcry3 or any of the batlefield games an ths game is just about the same as bf. see heres the funny thing if it only took 3 to chest an 1 to the head i dont think anyone would have a problem but here when some people can have like 300 shields or more an like 500 armor the time it take to kill just 1 of them can take 30 sec to a min. an it is becuse we have all this armor an shield an the super fast run strafe speed an all this jumping that is makeing cqc feel off. but what do i know i have only been playing shooters for like 17 years or more.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 24	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:50:00 - [7] - Quote so after doin some more testing with the setting i to have come to find the acceleration is way to much. ccp i hope you there an read this but even at 0-0 on my ds3 setting i can still turn supper fast. an if i set it to 1-1 not only do i turn supper fast but you can see the acceleration kick in at about the last 75% of the turn an then your aim just takes off out of control. so ccp what i want to know is why cant we change the settings in smaller numbers like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 you know like most shooters. as it is now it goes 1 5 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 like what the hell is that all about. see the speed at witch you aim an how fast you turn should come from how high of a number you have set. meaning at 0 i turn supper slow an at 50 i turn at half the max speed. so ccp think you can make 1 more change to the aiming an remove the acceleration an change the settings to go up by 1 not by 5.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 27	Posted - 2013.05.15 23:26:00 - [8] - Quote NeoWraith Acedia wrote: Don't know if it's just me, but today felt a lot better than all of last week. DS3. dont misunderstand what is goin on your just getting use to the bs aiming not that the aiming is better. i mean it is a bit better but not to the point that its fps good.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 31	Posted - 2013.05.17 01:47:00 - [9] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: With the lack of communication, I'm really wondering if we are going to see a fix soon, or are we supposed to just deal till the next big update...? i hope we get a fix an it would be nice if ccp would come be our friends for a sec an tell us something.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 34	Posted - 2013.05.17 04:45:00 - [10] - Quote Eggress wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi guys, Since the last update weGÇÖve been happy to hear that many of you feel the DS3 has improved. We are still actively working on the controls and here is the latest news: We are currently tuning the input curve giving you a greater degree of control over fine aiming with the DS3. We will be testing this internally and if we feel it is successful we will roll it out to you as soon as we can. More news on that when we have it. We know that some of you donGÇÖt like full input acceleration on the DS3, then again some players do. ItGÇÖs tricky to make everyone happy! We will look in to adding the option to disable it in a future update but that isnGÇÖt something we can add right now. Also, to clear up any misunderstanding, full input acceleration is not something weGÇÖve added this release, it was also present in the last build. We found the DS3 full input acceleration was being effected by the sensitivity settings meaning higher sensitivities would reach max rotation speed faster. This should not be the case now, it was fixed in the last update. We have a fix for a bug that prevented updated MKB sensitivity settings being read by the game. This means (once fixed) that the sensitivity spikes you have been experiencing on certain settings will be gone. It also means you will be playing with the correct settings which you have not been up until this point due to the bug. We hope to get this update to you in around a week. We will continue to make further improvements after that point and we will be looking forward to getting more feedback (and acting on it) once the update is out. In the meantime we will continue internal testing and let you know when you can expect us to roll out any new updates. Cheers CCP Wolfman In fact, it is EXTREMELY easy to make everyone happy. You give them a full suite of settings for things lookaccel, sensitivy, and deadzones in and out of "aiming" mode. You know. Like the sliders we had available in earlier builds which were inexplicably removed. yes if we had options like what the move has then you work would be done. ccp wolfman is this something that can be done.

gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 34	Posted - 2013.05.17 06:35:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi guys, *We found the DS3 full input acceleration was being effected by the sensitivity settings meaning higher sensitivities would reach max rotation speed faster. This should not be the case now, it was fixed in the last update. CCP Wolfman well i think it still there even with aim speed set to 20/20 i turn way to fast. it starts out slow then get super fast an i cant aim. think you could do a quick patch to make it stay slow at low numbers an get faster the higher you set the numbers. ccp this is my side of it the controls feal great an the aimer mover where i move the stick. the problem is hip fire aim for me is to fast even at low numbers like 20. an ads aim gets better the higher the number but then i cant hip fire at all. please make ads move at the same speed as hip fire.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 34	Posted - 2013.05.19 07:28:00 - [12] - Quote Bling Blaine wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Damn, Wolfman must really want to go down with the ship that is this current aim system. I don't understand why its so difficult to just revert the aim to chromosome style. Does he enjoy the constant abuse? Maybe we're not abusing him enough. "go down with the ship" spaceship that is and yes if it isn't fixed rather soonGäó-¬-« he should be on the hot seat. let the man work on geting us the new aiming. an if you think being an ass on ccp fourms talking about lets abuse him somemore just remember this is there game an its around this time that people start acting like this that devs just say f it. so take a seat we just got some news give them tell at least tuesday. i want better aiming just as bad as you just give them some time ccp knows this is the biggest problem in this game.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 34	Posted - 2013.05.19 20:36:00 - [13] - Quote what is the Incarna debacle.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 35	Posted - 2013.05.23 18:01:00 - [14] - Quote ccp think we can get some news on the ds3 update seeing as kb/m users got a patch. i mean give us something because the fps part of this game is a FAIL. i am no longer haveing fun ccp i am about to call it quits. day in day out night in night out its the same problem sh!t aiming. i just cant take it no more your game is just not fun an without fun whats the point in playing. so ccp can we PLEASE get some news on the ds3 side an only about the ds3 i dont care about kb/m users anymore.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 43	Posted - 2013.06.02 00:20:00 - [15] - Quote ccp can we get an update as to whats goin on. every other post gets a dev saying something an half of them are are people an devs just bsing around. so can we get a dev here to talk with an bs around please theres cake.