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Rowley Pup
Kang Lo Directorate
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:18:00 -
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Considering the vast number of unfair/ridiculous changes, Pay2Win accusations, and the obvious skillpoint sinks built into the newest patch for DUST I felt it time for a friendly reminder to CCP about those leaked company magazines that talked so highly about straight up milking your customers with pay to win schemes, and the emails that followed telling employees to ignore the customers and continue as planned.
Ultimately, it would seem, CCP either has forgotten those lessons the EVE players taught them, or they never learned and merely took one step and and two steps forward.
CCP, you are on notice, get your sh*t together.
http://slnewserextra.blogspot.com/2011/07/eve-onlines-veteran-players-revolt-over.html
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/26/eve-evolved-the-day-that-eve-online-died/
Proper link to the internal magazine: http://www.mediafire.com/?n8ohtufd1mtamgb
Here are a couple memorable dev quotes at the time:
"With no subscriptions in DUST, we have to be careful about selling permanent awesomeness, as thereGÇÖs a danger of saturating the market. When everyone has everything, thereGÇÖs no reason to buy anything anymore. Concepts such as planned obsolescence and perceived obsolescence thus play a key role ." (obsolescence referring to the deliberate shortening of a productGÇÖs lifespan)
"Selling 'weapons' for real money is very tempting. ...we are planning on doing so...but the real reason is that we have strong evidence that selling performance enhancers works." (obviously, they kept this idea)
Download, read, and share before this gets locked folks.
Oh, and one last thing for CCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6iiXd0ZSly8 |
Rowley Pup
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:33:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:Congratulations, you posted two year old news.
Cookie?
Those who forget the past, are doomed to repeat it. |
Rowley Pup
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:34:00 -
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TG Valkyrur wrote:So, how do you expect them to turn a profit with Dust since it's a F2P? There's been worse things done in F2P games. Would you rather Dust be using a Weapon-Rental system like others which outright forces complete dedication to get your money's worth?
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Rowley Pup
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:45:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:"Monoclegate" had bugger all to do with Pay 2 Win.
I would be really interested to hear your reasoning behind the post and it's title, just so I can understand wtf you are talking about.
If you would bother reading CCP's internal magazine, which I linked, you'd understand the title and post. The things in that magazine are what the EVE players were pissed off about, as the magazine directly discusses how to implement a pay2win scheme in EVE and DUST. The issue back then was about much more than overpriced monocles; and I see many of those things, being played out here in DUST with the Uprising patch.
I'll even be nice and repeat the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?n8ohtufd1mtamgb |
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