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Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
301
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:37:00 -
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Something got me thinking- Instead of letting players choose their own path, CCP- you guys forced players on a defensive role. Basically to sit there and take damage, but not give damage to others... Making them more of a tank, but less of an effective attacker. They were fine last build. Currently the HMG is garbage, I tested it, ( I ran past a heavy and got these results)-
- Me-
- The heavy-
Now the heavy is a proto with a boundless proto HMG. Me on the other hand is running a proto Amarr medium basic suit
- I run passed the heavy and on full armor and health, I die within less then 3 sec..
Now back on topic And what had happen was- lots of players have changed their role. Going from a Heavy too a Logi, or Heavy too an assault etc etc....
So my question to you- (Not the players)- but to YOU AKA- (CCP) why force players to a defensive role? |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
276
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:40:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Something got me thinking- Instead of letting players choose their own path, CCP- you guys forced players on a defensive role. Basically to sit there and take damage, but not give damage to others... Making them more of a tank, but less of an effective attacker. They were fine last build. Currently the HMG is garbage, I tested it, ( I ran past a heavy and got these results)- know that the Boundless is the only effective HMG - Me- - The heavy- Now the heavy is a proto with a boundless proto HMG. Me on the other hand is running a proto Amarr medium basic suit - I run passed the heavy and on full armor and health, I die within less then 3 sec.. Now back on topic And what had happen was- lots of players have changed their role. Going from a Heavy too a Logi, or Heavy too an assault etc etc.... So my question to you- ( Not the players)- but to YOU AKA- (CCP) why force players to a defensive role?
Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You can still do what ya want. I love when people say they are forcing me to do this. a Sniper can rush with sniper rifle if he wants but obviously he is more effective at Range this is the same for Fatboys they CAN rush if they want but are more effective as Defensive players don't wanna play D pick another role SIMPLE. |
Delta 749
Maverick Security Consulting
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:40:00 -
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So let me get this right, you had full shields and armor on a proto suit and still died in seconds and somehow that means HMGs are garbage? So what, do you want to be instagibbed by everything that so much as looks at you funny? |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:41:00 -
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If a Heavy would use an AR, he could rush into situations. With an HMG, not so much. Heavy got buffed, HMG got nerfed. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
164
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:43:00 -
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And what you want exactly ? a rocket in you a$$, so you can rush around like a scout ?
Is not pleasing this Heavies ... they always want more...
Please sir !! can i have some more !?!? |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
276
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:45:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:And what you want exactly ? a rocket in you a$$, so you can rush around like a scout ?
Is not pleasing this Heavies ... they always want more...
Please sir !! can i have some more !?!?
This is true nothing is ever good enough. |
Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
301
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:48:00 -
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Icy Xenosmilus wrote:If a Heavy would use an AR, he could rush into situations. With an HMG, not so much. Heavy got buffed, HMG got nerfed. Sounds like somebody disagrees with all the Heavy complainers. Im just trying to defend them. They were good last build. And forced my corp members to switch a different role. And all they do is run Heavys... |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
249
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:48:00 -
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He was supposed to die in 1 second. Not anymore. |
Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
301
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:49:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:He was supposed to die in 1 second. Not anymore. You know I will just give you a +1.... Thanks |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
167
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:53:00 -
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There is no point for heavies to have high damage and have a fk ton of HP. |
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Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
171
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:54:00 -
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Sentinel is a defensive specialization. They will be adding more heavy specializations for offensive players, just hold your horses. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2459
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:58:00 -
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So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ? |
Boomer Dues Mortis
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
94
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:59:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Sentinel is a defensive specialization. They will be adding more heavy specializations for offensive players, just hold your horses.
So we have to wait, for how long? While everyone else gets to do whatever because they already have their other suits. |
Delta 749
Maverick Security Consulting
19
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:02:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ?
Shotguns are better at close range, sniper rifles have a better distance, HMGs have a higher rate of fire which gives them better DPS, and laser rifles tear through shields like a rock through wet paper ARs are better than the sidearms sure but arent superlative in one area like each of the others they are just decent all around and it takes a good player to make them shine
So stop whining "Boo hoo the mean AR man killed me" and step your game up |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
383
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:05:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ? Shotguns are better at close range, sniper rifles have a better distance, HMGs have a higher rate of fire which gives them better DPS, and laser rifles tear through shields like a rock through wet paper ARs are better than the sidearms sure but arent superlative in one area like each of the others they are just decent all around and it takes a good player to make them shine So stop whining "Boo hoo the mean AR man killed me" and step your game up ^Has never used an HMG. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
164
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:05:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ?
They AR is kitten horrible... seriously, you should try it and see for you self.
Currently i can only use the Tactical, because the GEK-38 recoil is just plain stupid, and the range is even worst, i can't out range a Scout anymore, specially with their supersonic speed.
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Delta 749
Maverick Security Consulting
19
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:08:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Delta 749 wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ? Shotguns are better at close range, sniper rifles have a better distance, HMGs have a higher rate of fire which gives them better DPS, and laser rifles tear through shields like a rock through wet paper ARs are better than the sidearms sure but arent superlative in one area like each of the others they are just decent all around and it takes a good player to make them shine So stop whining "Boo hoo the mean AR man killed me" and step your game up ^Has never used an HMG.
Have actually and at a distance yes it does suck but at a close range or if you want to keep the enemy pinned down its great, personally though I cant stand the slow movement speed on a heavy suit |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:08:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ? They AR is kitten horrible... seriously, you should try it and see for you self. Currently i can only use the Tactical, because the GEK-38 recoil is just plain stupid, and the range is even worst, i can't out range a Scout anymore, specially with their supersonic speed. LMAO
This thread is pathetic. You scrubs need to jump into a fat suit and compare your success to the AR. I did - I tried out the AR - wow is it way better. You guys QQ about nothing sometimes.
Get a real reason to cry like we do then get on our level. We got nerf because of your tears and now we're giving them back. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
164
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:12:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ? They AR is kitten horrible... seriously, you should try it and see for you self. Currently i can only use the Tactical, because the GEK-38 recoil is just plain stupid, and the range is even worst, i can't out range a Scout anymore, specially with their supersonic speed. LMAO This thread is pathetic. You scrubs need to jump into a fat suit and compare your success to the AR. I did - I tried out the AR - wow is it way better. You guys QQ about nothing sometimes. Get a real reason to cry like we do then get on our level. We got nerf because of your tears and now we're giving them back.
You try the GEK-38 ? ... how so? you spend SP points in Light Guns and Rifle Skills ?... or you just lying to prove you point ? |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
123
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:14:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ? They AR is kitten horrible... seriously, you should try it and see for you self. Currently i can only use the Tactical, because the GEK-38 recoil is just plain stupid, and the range is even worst, i can't out range a Scout anymore, specially with their supersonic speed. LMAO This thread is pathetic. You scrubs need to jump into a fat suit and compare your success to the AR. I did - I tried out the AR - wow is it way better. You guys QQ about nothing sometimes. Get a real reason to cry like we do then get on our level. We got nerf because of your tears and now we're giving them back. You try the GEK-38 ? ... how so? you spend SP points in Light Guns and Rifle Skills ?... or you just lying to prove you point ? It's called an alt. Some of us have nearly 10 different PSN's actively farming passive SP. *cough*
How do you think I can post when I'm supposed to be banned for a month? :3 |
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HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2465
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:15:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ? They AR is kitten horrible... seriously, you should try it and see for you self. Currently i can only use the Tactical, because the GEK-38 recoil is just plain stupid, and the range is even worst, i can't out range a Scout anymore, specially with their supersonic speed.
Hahahahahahaha. If you cant use the AR you are horrible. I beast with my standard assault suit and exile rifle.
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Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
384
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:16:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:Delta 749 wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ? Shotguns are better at close range, sniper rifles have a better distance, HMGs have a higher rate of fire which gives them better DPS, and laser rifles tear through shields like a rock through wet paper ARs are better than the sidearms sure but arent superlative in one area like each of the others they are just decent all around and it takes a good player to make them shine So stop whining "Boo hoo the mean AR man killed me" and step your game up ^Has never used an HMG. Have actually and at a distance yes it does suck but at a close range or if you want to keep the enemy pinned down its great, personally though I cant stand the slow movement speed on a heavy suit Ah I see. I retract my previous statement then.
And dear lord the turning speed...... |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
164
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:18:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:So are you guys scared of having competition to the AR ? They AR is kitten horrible... seriously, you should try it and see for you self. Currently i can only use the Tactical, because the GEK-38 recoil is just plain stupid, and the range is even worst, i can't out range a Scout anymore, specially with their supersonic speed. LMAO This thread is pathetic. You scrubs need to jump into a fat suit and compare your success to the AR. I did - I tried out the AR - wow is it way better. You guys QQ about nothing sometimes. Get a real reason to cry like we do then get on our level. We got nerf because of your tears and now we're giving them back. You try the GEK-38 ? ... how so? you spend SP points in Light Guns and Rifle Skills ?... or you just lying to prove you point ? It's called an alt. Some of us have nearly 10 different PSN's actively farming passive SP. *cough* How do you think I can post when I'm supposed to be banned for a month? :3
You can post with you other Alts in your account....I should know, i got banned too.
The rest sounds like BS to me.....
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Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
171
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:19:00 -
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Boomer Dues Mortis wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Sentinel is a defensive specialization. They will be adding more heavy specializations for offensive players, just hold your horses. So we have to wait, for how long? While everyone else gets to do whatever because they already have their other suits. I don't know for how long, but that's not true that Heavy is the only one missing out here. Light suits only have an option to be a scout, for instance. Also there have been other mentioned specializations like Crusader for the medium suit which those guys have to wait for. I'm sure in the end there will be several specializations for each suit. But until then yes, we must wait.
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Remm Duchax
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
9
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:26:00 -
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To be a bit different than all the other whining Heavies. Heavies still shine. Just throw a flux grenade first, before you start mowing them down. As simple as that. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
245
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:26:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:So let me get this right, you had full shields and armor on a proto suit and still died in seconds and somehow that means HMGs are garbage? So what, do you want to be instagibbed by everything that so much as looks at you funny?
As a non heavy I think you are looking a this the wrong way mate. We have this great Heavy in Dead Six, he is great at his job and really likes playing Dust and its sad to say that he does feel useful anymore.
Heavies used to be the guys that led the way and were the haft of the spear but now they are somewhat relagated to base defence play, however in Dust people get rewarded for agressive play and not defensive play.
I used to like how heavies could switch between offensive and defensive play ....but now they are somewhat hampered in their ability to dish out damage.
I would love to see players pick up he HMG again and feel needed in game. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
125
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:28:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:
You can post with you other Alts in your account....I should know, i got banned too.
LOL You call me BS then lie this badly? GTFO. The ACCOUNT is banned - not the toon - all the toons are unable to post. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
164
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:33:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Delta 749 wrote:So let me get this right, you had full shields and armor on a proto suit and still died in seconds and somehow that means HMGs are garbage? So what, do you want to be instagibbed by everything that so much as looks at you funny? As a non heavy I think you are looking a this the wrong way mate. We have this great Heavy in Dead Six, he is great at his job and really likes playing Dust and its sad to say that he does feel useful anymore. Heavies used to be the guys that led the way and were the haft of the spear but now they are somewhat relagated to base defence play, however in Dust people get rewarded for agressive play and not defensive play. I used to like how heavies could switch between offensive and defensive play ....but now they are somewhat hampered in their ability to dish out damage. I would love to see players pick up he HMG again and feel needed in game.
How dramatic... let me put some sad music on for you.
Heavies still have their role in Dust 514, just not the "Destroyer of the Word" role, but a team support role, like it should be. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
125
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:33:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:Delta 749 wrote:So let me get this right, you had full shields and armor on a proto suit and still died in seconds and somehow that means HMGs are garbage? So what, do you want to be instagibbed by everything that so much as looks at you funny? As a non heavy I think you are looking a this the wrong way mate. We have this great Heavy in Dead Six, he is great at his job and really likes playing Dust and its sad to say that he does feel useful anymore. Heavies used to be the guys that led the way and were the haft of the spear but now they are somewhat relagated to base defence play, however in Dust people get rewarded for agressive play and not defensive play. I used to like how heavies could switch between offensive and defensive play ....but now they are somewhat hampered in their ability to dish out damage. I would love to see players pick up he HMG again and feel needed in game. How dramatic... let me put some sad music on for you. Heavies still have their role in Dust 514, just not the "Destroyer of the Word" role, but a team support role, like it should be. This guy is a liar and should be disregarded. See post 27 for evidence. |
Delta 749
Maverick Security Consulting
23
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:34:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Delta 749 wrote:So let me get this right, you had full shields and armor on a proto suit and still died in seconds and somehow that means HMGs are garbage? So what, do you want to be instagibbed by everything that so much as looks at you funny? As a non heavy I think you are looking a this the wrong way mate. We have this great Heavy in Dead Six, he is great at his job and really likes playing Dust and its sad to say that he does feel useful anymore. Heavies used to be the guys that led the way and were the haft of the spear but now they are somewhat relagated to base defence play, however in Dust people get rewarded for agressive play and not defensive play. I used to like how heavies could switch between offensive and defensive play ....but now they are somewhat hampered in their ability to dish out damage. I would love to see players pick up he HMG again and feel needed in game.
I understand that and sympathize and I agree heavies are no longer the sword but are now the shield and our current game modes dont leave a lot of room for that Hopefully with more game modes such as domination you corp mate and other heavies will start to feel more useful again |
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