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dullrust
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
6
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:13:00 -
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Seriously what gives? 99% of the time there are NO symbols. When they do show I got 5 seconds to get to them. On top of that I have to either stab them multiple times or run around the area in up to a 15 meter wide circle to rev them. As it stands now I have to run over EVERY body to see if I can revive them. The only exception being if I saw them go down. Which still is not a given since I have to do one or both of the previously stated things above. Could someone help me understand what is going on here? I want to do my job as a full blown medic. Untill then I have to rep and kill for most of my WP.
Oh one more thing why no WP for reping installations or vehicles? |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
169
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:17:00 -
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You have to actually wait to get to the spawn screen then click on your death icon to call for help for the needle symbol to appear. It's really wonky and almost no one is doing it. You can still revive people though. I'm playing logi and get tons of revives, you just have to keep track on who's friendly and watch when they fall. It's not as convenient as running into a battle you weren't apart of and picking everyone back up, but it works for now.
Also they added a prompt to press circle if you are standing over a revivable teammate to revive them, so you do not need to switch to your needle. This is quite nice. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
707
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:18:00 -
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People have to request a needle before the icon will appear, and they can't call for help from the "killed by" screen. You can still needle them, but good luck finding their bodies without the icon.
WPs for vehicle/Installation repping were removed a few builds ago because people were farming orbitals by crashing LAVs between walls, Austin Powers style, and then healing them. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
54
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:19:00 -
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Revival Icons only appear after someone calls for help. This is different from the behavior of last build, where someone brought down automatically has a Revival Icon over them.
Considering it takes a non-zero amount of time to get to the revival screen and the "call for help" function of it only appears in a small part of the screen while your corpse is selected, it's no surprise almost no one has an icon and those that do have half their timer gone already. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
194
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:20:00 -
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dullrust wrote:Seriously what gives? 99% of the time there are NO symbols. When they do show I got 5 seconds to get to them. On top of that I have to either stab them multiple times or run around the area in up to a 15 meter wide circle to rev them. As it stands now I have to run over EVERY body to see if I can revive them. The only exception being if I saw them go down. Which still is not a given since I have to do one or both of the previously stated things above. Could someone help me understand what is going on here? I want to do my job as a full blown medic. Untill then I have to rep and kill for most of my WP.
Oh one more thing why no WP for reping installations or vehicles?
I've taken my nanite injector off for the second time. I tried to dedicate to it to give it a chance but its just not something that's worth carrying.
You are better off carrying a drop uplink to enable respawning of your teammates in a favorable spot. Getting yourself killed trying to stab them 4000 times doesn't help anybody.
After initially not liking this build I love it now. It seems like so many people are having aiming issues that I have enough survivability to crush them with my Freedom MD. That said, the revive mechanism is bad. Real bad.
There might be 4 dudes at the top of the leader board who are happy their precious KDR isn't tarnished. And I'm sure the guy who came up with it likes it too. |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
266
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:21:00 -
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People need to call for help on the map screen now for the revive indicator to appear and most dont know this so they just sit waiting or respawn, The ones who know this do call for help but it doesn't always work and occasionally no indicator appears anywhere. Also if they are looking at the kill screen you cant revive them at all until they exit that screen. In general aim your cross hairs at a body and if they turn green you have a chance of reviving them. Additionally lol the press O to revive without getting your injector out seems to have a smaller "sweet spot" than trying with your nanite injector out.
Oh and about the WP for repping vehicles it was removed because it was easily expolited. |
Naquiri
ExcelsiCorp Securities
51
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:21:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=764288#post764288 |
dullrust
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
6
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:41:00 -
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Okay they screwed up the revive system in two ways and added one improvement. Also did not fix a previous issue but carried it over. Plus the on added perk got screwed by one of the added problems. Got it thanks folks! |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1213
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:43:00 -
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I hear that you can only get rezzed if you ask for it in the menu screen. If that is true...that is another ridiculous change. |
Hey Fatty
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
1
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:41:00 -
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Where I do appreciate the "Press and hold O to revive friendly" feature that they so graciously provided with the new build, getting it to prompt is like searching for the g-spot on a mosquito. I will see someone go down, and now know this person is my new patient. I will approach and see the prompt. While taking into consideration that he may be covered by a sniper or other unknown red dots that may lurk nearby, Il crouch or seek cover to better keep the two of us safe while I proceed to operate. The prompt then fades away. "No big deal!", says this Logi! I simply whip it out like the old days...(four attempts to change from weapon to needle later)...he bleeds out. (Dramatic Nerd Moment: "Kaaaaaaaaahhnnn!")
OR
I do all of the above, and my patient is brought back to the world of the living, but is disoriented and will soon be dispatched shortly after due to being forced to take his/her eyes off the battle to...look at a map? (Yes, you can still combat roll after being brought back from the Map, but timing is key, and most Blue-Dots dont got it. I get points either way, but i digress.)
CCP, you silly, silly, ducklings!  |
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EnIgMa99
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
298
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:52:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:You have to actually wait to get to the spawn screen then click on your death icon to call for help for the needle symbol to appear. It's really wonky and almost no one is doing it. You can still revive people though. I'm playing logi and get tons of revives, you just have to keep track on who's friendly and watch when they fall. It's not as convenient as running into a battle you weren't apart of and picking everyone back up, but it works for now.
Also they added a prompt to press circle if you are standing over a revivable teammate to revive them, so you do not need to switch to your needle. This is quite nice.
It also doesn't help that the respawn button is the EXACT SAME BUTTON as the help button but hey ccp infinite wisdom right? |
E1234567890D
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 20:18:00 -
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dullrust wrote:Seriously what gives? 99% of the time there are NO symbols. When they do show I got 5 seconds to get to them. On top of that I have to either stab them multiple times or run around the area in up to a 15 meter wide circle to rev them. As it stands now I have to run over EVERY body to see if I can revive them. The only exception being if I saw them go down. Which still is not a given since I have to do one or both of the previously stated things above. Could someone help me understand what is going on here? I want to do my job as a full blown medic. Untill then I have to rep and kill for most of my WP.
Oh one more thing why no WP for reping installations or vehicles?
When I'm dead, I'm dead....no injectors anywhere. Call for help....3m, 6m, 2m, 23m gone. I carry Injectors but it is like every calls for help once and if you aren't there right away...(in the line of fire) they respawn. Stop it...wait for us...it saves our team a clone which could be the deciding factor in win or lose.
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Jeremiah ambromot
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.05.09 20:28:00 -
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Shoot the bodies if they disappear it was an enemy if it does not it is a revivable blue dot. You can now bleed out bodies of the enemy. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.05.09 20:33:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Revival Icons only appear after someone calls for help. This is different from the behavior of last build, where someone brought down automatically has a Revival Icon over them.
Considering it takes a non-zero amount of time to get to the revival screen and the "call for help" function of it only appears in a small part of the screen while your corpse is selected, it's no surprise almost no one has an icon and those that do have half their timer gone already.
This - very poor on developer part - it should be placed on the kill screen so you can call from help whilst looking at the info or kill yourself and then respawn. |
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