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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:41:00 -
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Never will be. and **** will it fail bad if it became. I'm all for new. I'm all for taking the road less traveled. But I'm also a FPS player. So are a lot of people on here. Dust is pegged as a fps. mmofps. fpsmmo. FPS nether the less. But under the surface, I'm starting to see the passive aggressive of those that would rather this game never have been A FPS. And for that they don't want us here.
Had dust been a RTS, or ACTION RPG they would *** buckets. PVE is whispered with giggles of what might be. grinding and role oh my! The LORE for dust is in the back drop already. BUT THE ENGINE THAT MOVES THIS, IS FPS. ACCEPT IT. A broken engine, but that's the point of what at least many here are trying to do. some come off selfish, but many want the same thing.. Dust to succeed.
Players of DUST WONT FALL FOR THE LORE. THEY WONT FIGHT FOR GELLANTE, NOR MINMATOR, NOR CALDARI. THEY WANT TO FIGHT THE BEST. To bathe in FIRE AND BRIMSTONE. THE MMO TEAM CAN MAKE A LORE OF WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. BUT WE JUST WANT TO FIGHT. HAIL ODIN. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:43:00 -
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I thought we got over the FPS vs MMORPG arguments 6 months ago. |
VLIGHT5
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:46:00 -
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Go back to CoD |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:50:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:Go back to CoD
If cod is all you know then tsk tsk. You won't hear me say "go back to dota" cause that's mean. |
Nexus Tau
DIOS EX.
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:10:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:VLIGHT5 wrote:Go back to CoD If cod is all you know then tsk tsk. You won't hear me say "go back to dota" cause that's mean. I could come up with a better comeback than that, go back to dota |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:18:00 -
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Nexus Tau wrote:Surt gods end wrote:VLIGHT5 wrote:Go back to CoD If cod is all you know then tsk tsk. You won't hear me say "go back to dota" cause that's mean. I could come up with a better comeback than that, go back to dota
meh.. just mentioned dota cause thats what the "hip" mmo kids like right? or is it terra? Can you tell I love korean mmos?
Anyway, It's late and I'm probably being a ****. No hard feelings to grind lovers who love to grind at mmos. More power to you. We all want dust to be great. just we also as we've see in posts want different things from dust.
maybe wanting dust to be great, should be focus for now. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:28:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Never will be. and **** will it fail bad if it became. I'm all for new. I'm all for taking the road less traveled. But I'm also a FPS player. So are a lot of people on here. Dust is pegged as a fps. mmofps. fpsmmo. FPS nether the less. But under the surface, I'm starting to see the passive aggressive of those that would rather this game never have been A FPS. And for that they don't want us here. Had dust been a RTS, or ACTION RPG they would *** buckets. PVE is whispered with giggles of what might be. grinding and role oh my! The LORE for dust is in the back drop already. BUT THE ENGINE THAT MOVES THIS, IS FPS. ACCEPT IT. A broken engine, but that's the point of what at least many here are trying to do. some come off selfish, but many want the same thing.. Dust to succeed. Players of DUST WONT FALL FOR THE LORE. THEY WONT FIGHT FOR GELLANTE, NOR MINMATOR, NOR CALDARI. THEY WANT TO FIGHT THE BEST. To bathe in FIRE AND BRIMSTONE. THE MMO TEAM CAN MAKE A LORE OF WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. BUT WE JUST WANT TO FIGHT. HAIL ODIN.
Figured I'd add a TLDR; He wants Dust514 to be a [insert AAA shooter here] clone |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
571
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:38:00 -
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Nobody's twisting your arm to play. There's plenty of other FPS out there that might address your needs. Dust 514 is ambition, innovation, and different. Many people play it because it's not another generic shooter or another MMORPG. We have a problem with limiting what a game is, depending on it's genre. I'd recommend reading up on the aesthetics of gaming (also available in video form) to broaden your views. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:49:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Never will be. and **** will it fail bad if it became. I'm all for new. I'm all for taking the road less traveled. But I'm also a FPS player. So are a lot of people on here. Dust is pegged as a fps. mmofps. fpsmmo. FPS nether the less. But under the surface, I'm starting to see the passive aggressive of those that would rather this game never have been A FPS. And for that they don't want us here. Had dust been a RTS, or ACTION RPG they would *** buckets. PVE is whispered with giggles of what might be. grinding and role oh my! The LORE for dust is in the back drop already. BUT THE ENGINE THAT MOVES THIS, IS FPS. ACCEPT IT. A broken engine, but that's the point of what at least many here are trying to do. some come off selfish, but many want the same thing.. Dust to succeed. Players of DUST WONT FALL FOR THE LORE. THEY WONT FIGHT FOR GELLANTE, NOR MINMATOR, NOR CALDARI. THEY WANT TO FIGHT THE BEST. To bathe in FIRE AND BRIMSTONE. THE MMO TEAM CAN MAKE A LORE OF WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. BUT WE JUST WANT TO FIGHT. HAIL ODIN.
QFT; time for the EVEtards to be pushed back into their basement caves and fix the sinking ship before its too late. The carebears want this game to function like an MMO because if it functioned like an FPS its yet another game that reminds them they are terrible at PVP. |
Blamejudg3s KEQ
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:54:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Nobody's twisting your arm to play. There's plenty of other FPS out there that might address your needs. Dust 514 is ambition, innovation, and different. Many people play it because it's not another generic shooter or another MMORPG. We have a problem with limiting what a game is, depending on it's genre. I'd recommend reading up on the aesthetics of gaming (also available in video form) to broaden your views.
CCP is the only developer on consoles with a 2013 FPS with dedicated servers. |
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:54:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Never will be. and **** will it fail bad if it became. I'm all for new. I'm all for taking the road less traveled. But I'm also a FPS player. So are a lot of people on here. Dust is pegged as a fps. mmofps. fpsmmo. FPS nether the less. But under the surface, I'm starting to see the passive aggressive of those that would rather this game never have been A FPS. And for that they don't want us here. Had dust been a RTS, or ACTION RPG they would *** buckets. PVE is whispered with giggles of what might be. grinding and role oh my! The LORE for dust is in the back drop already. BUT THE ENGINE THAT MOVES THIS, IS FPS. ACCEPT IT. A broken engine, but that's the point of what at least many here are trying to do. some come off selfish, but many want the same thing.. Dust to succeed. Players of DUST WONT FALL FOR THE LORE. THEY WONT FIGHT FOR GELLANTE, NOR MINMATOR, NOR CALDARI. THEY WANT TO FIGHT THE BEST. To bathe in FIRE AND BRIMSTONE. THE MMO TEAM CAN MAKE A LORE OF WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. BUT WE JUST WANT TO FIGHT. HAIL ODIN.
Funny thing, your last paragraph suggests you have a personal lore, to bathe thru battle in fire and brimstone, then you invoke upon a fictional mythic god... |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
572
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:56:00 -
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Oh, and your point about the Unreal 3 engine being a FPS, take a look at this. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
75
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:00:00 -
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hey hey hey. relax.. geez I could already tell who I insulted. I play cause I do enjoy something in this game. But that enjoyment gets a little less each time, cause of glaring problems with game that have not been addressed. Do I expect kill zone 5 here? NO. MAG 2? no. But I sure as hell don't want it to turn into dota either. or terra. or wait for it... eve.
Share the lore. Role play.. go knock yourselves out. But let the damn engine be fps. better then any fps before it. Fine eve players, I'll fight for your planets. for causes (not free of course) but at least give me the tools to do so! Don't brush off the FPS aces, that can be of help to your war!
*everyone claps* *some girls cry* thank you.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
47
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:00:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Surt gods end wrote:Never will be. and **** will it fail bad if it became. I'm all for new. I'm all for taking the road less traveled. But I'm also a FPS player. So are a lot of people on here. Dust is pegged as a fps. mmofps. fpsmmo. FPS nether the less. But under the surface, I'm starting to see the passive aggressive of those that would rather this game never have been A FPS. And for that they don't want us here. Had dust been a RTS, or ACTION RPG they would *** buckets. PVE is whispered with giggles of what might be. grinding and role oh my! The LORE for dust is in the back drop already. BUT THE ENGINE THAT MOVES THIS, IS FPS. ACCEPT IT. A broken engine, but that's the point of what at least many here are trying to do. some come off selfish, but many want the same thing.. Dust to succeed. Players of DUST WONT FALL FOR THE LORE. THEY WONT FIGHT FOR GELLANTE, NOR MINMATOR, NOR CALDARI. THEY WANT TO FIGHT THE BEST. To bathe in FIRE AND BRIMSTONE. THE MMO TEAM CAN MAKE A LORE OF WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. BUT WE JUST WANT TO FIGHT. HAIL ODIN. QFT; time for the EVEtards to be pushed back into their basement caves and fix the sinking ship before its too late. The carebears want this game to function like an MMO because if it functioned like an FPS its yet another game that reminds them they are terrible at PVP.
So I've played black ops and BF3, as well as EvE, Ultima Online, and Warhammer, and I must say, PvP was much tougher in any of those MMOs than the FPS, is it that maybe you are actually afraid that once a majority of the MMO guys learn the FPS mechanics, that they might be better than you? Have you ever even play an aggressive PvP MMORPG? |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
47
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:03:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:hey hey hey. relax.. geez I could already tell who I insulted. I play cause I do enjoy something in this game. But that enjoyment gets a little less each time, cause of glaring problems with game that have not been addressed. Do I expect kill zone 5 here? NO. MAG 2? no. But I sure as hell don't want it to turn into dota either. or terra. or wait for it... eve.
Share the lore. Role play.. go knock yourselves out. But let the damn engine be fps. better then any fps before it. Fine eve players, I'll fight for your planets. for causes (not free of course) but at least give me the tools to do so! Don't brush off the FPS aces, that can be of help to your war!
*everyone claps* *some girls cry* thank you.
I'll give you a like for this. Just understand some of us hardcore MMO guys play FPS too. We are just looking for an in-between. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
75
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:04:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Oh, and your point about the Unreal 3 engine being a FPS, take a look at this.
Wow you guys type fast. ...anyway dude I didn't mean "engine" as literally. Meant more metaphoric. The core of the game. engine of the game. see?
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
75
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:08:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Surt gods end wrote:hey hey hey. relax.. geez I could already tell who I insulted. I play cause I do enjoy something in this game. But that enjoyment gets a little less each time, cause of glaring problems with game that have not been addressed. Do I expect kill zone 5 here? NO. MAG 2? no. But I sure as hell don't want it to turn into dota either. or terra. or wait for it... eve.
Share the lore. Role play.. go knock yourselves out. But let the damn engine be fps. better then any fps before it. Fine eve players, I'll fight for your planets. for causes (not free of course) but at least give me the tools to do so! Don't brush off the FPS aces, that can be of help to your war!
*everyone claps* *some girls cry* thank you.
I'll give you a like for this. Just understand some of us hardcore MMO guys play FPS too. We are just looking for an in-between.
MMO aren't my taste. But they are my best bud taste. he's into it. So do I loath it? no. Do I understand it? no. should there be a in-between. Buddy this game needs something! like now. so I'll agree to that. +1 for you. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:18:00 -
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For a guy with such strong views on what this game is supposed to be. You're doing a lot of back peddling when met with valid opposing views. May I suggest a job in politics?
You brought up role play somewhere in that rant and wanted to point out that lore can play to your benefit more than you think. Each race has a different philosophy towards combat. A little research can give you a bit of a tactical advantage. Also the little "news reports" on what's going on in New Eden can give you a bit of a preview of what's to come. Remember that Titan that crashed into the background of all our maps? That's what lore does. |
Cruxio
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:22:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Never will be. and **** will it fail bad if it became. I'm all for new. I'm all for taking the road less traveled. But I'm also a FPS player. So are a lot of people on here. Dust is pegged as a fps. mmofps. fpsmmo. FPS nether the less. But under the surface, I'm starting to see the passive aggressive of those that would rather this game never have been A FPS. And for that they don't want us here. Had dust been a RTS, or ACTION RPG they would *** buckets. PVE is whispered with giggles of what might be. grinding and role oh my! The LORE for dust is in the back drop already. BUT THE ENGINE THAT MOVES THIS, IS FPS. ACCEPT IT. A broken engine, but that's the point of what at least many here are trying to do. some come off selfish, but many want the same thing.. Dust to succeed. Players of DUST WONT FALL FOR THE LORE. THEY WONT FIGHT FOR GELLANTE, NOR MINMATOR, NOR CALDARI. THEY WANT TO FIGHT THE BEST. To bathe in FIRE AND BRIMSTONE. THE MMO TEAM CAN MAKE A LORE OF WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. BUT WE JUST WANT TO FIGHT. HAIL ODIN.
Dust is already a fps game and that won't change but what you are hinting at would burn dust to the ground within three years under your vision, FPS games have a short lifespan when compared to other games, they are fun as hell, but how many pure FPS players here would leave a solid FPS version of dust once the next cod, halo, bf, crysis, borderlands etc comes out with better graphics and new gimmicks? The answer is a lot. FPS games parallel our cell phone culture.
Combine this with the fact that Dust original inception was slow progression (to partner with eve and to give it the same lifespan), as seen in skill and character design, it was a hybrid that differentiated itself entirely on that. It was designed for the long haul with a lot of planning and strategic elements than just nonstrategic twitch play. While you haven't said much at all, the elements you are attacking are the elements that will last. Cater this came entirely to the FPS crowd and the game will end after the next big FPS. While Eve, which has its own category, still goes on with heavy pvp elements (after a hell of a lot of planning).
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:44:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:For a guy with such strong views on what this game is supposed to be. You're doing a lot of back peddling when met with valid opposing views. May I suggest a job in politics? You brought up role play somewhere in that rant and wanted to point out that lore can play to your benefit more than you think. Each race has a different philosophy towards combat. A little research can give you a bit of a tactical advantage. Also the little "news reports" on what's going on in New Eden can give you a bit of a preview of what's to come. Remember that Titan that crashed into the background of all our maps? That's what lore does.
only after my wife read over my shoulder of what I wrote and I got scolded for being a bully. lol I'm not a bully. I stand for what I said. But I'm not blind either. this is a game. And I do have friends that play mmo. I should be more careful as to what I write late at night. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:15:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Cosgar wrote:For a guy with such strong views on what this game is supposed to be. You're doing a lot of back peddling when met with valid opposing views. May I suggest a job in politics? You brought up role play somewhere in that rant and wanted to point out that lore can play to your benefit more than you think. Each race has a different philosophy towards combat. A little research can give you a bit of a tactical advantage. Also the little "news reports" on what's going on in New Eden can give you a bit of a preview of what's to come. Remember that Titan that crashed into the background of all our maps? That's what lore does. only after my wife read over my shoulder of what I wrote and I got scolded for being a bully. lol I'm not a bully. I stand for what I said. But I'm not blind either. this is a game. And I do have friends that play mmo. I should be more careful as to what I write late at night. Not sure why there's this crazy rift between FPS players and MMORPG players. I've been playing FPS since Doom95 and my multilayer RPG background dates back to pen and paper. You should check out that dissertation I linked in my first response. It's very enlightening and ever gamer and developer should read it. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.09 07:02:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Players of DUST WONT FALL FOR THE LORE. THEY WONT FIGHT FOR GELLANTE, NOR MINMATOR, NOR CALDARI. THEY WANT TO FIGHT THE BEST. To bathe in FIRE AND BRIMSTONE. THE MMO TEAM CAN MAKE A LORE OF WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. BUT WE JUST WANT TO FIGHT. HAIL ODIN. I'm sorry, I didn't realise that I wasn't here for the reasons I'm here.
I'm here for the connection with EVE. I want to see someone in orbit raining fire down on the battlefield, and I want someone else on the ground with me to open fire and take them out - or at least force them to retreat. I want to see fights for control of anti-orbital weaponry, and the team who controls it will have the advantage of orbital fire support.
I'm a Caldari, and I'm a mercenary. Like all Caldari, profit is a core value of mine. I fight for a profit, and for the enjoyment. I fight because I'm good at it. But I also fight for my nation, and my people. In the Battle for Caldari Prime, I tipped the scales in favour of the Caldari, by working from the enemy team. As a mercenary working "for" the Gallente, I provided HAVs for the Caldari side, by spawning them near the enemy and either getting myself killed or running away. I set Nanohives on the wrong side of cover, to encourage my "allies" to expose themselves to sniper fire. I set uplinks in exposed positions, and watched as the Gallente mercenaries were wiped out as they appeared.
Fighting is good. Profit is better. Watching the destruction of people who trusted me to fight against my homeworld is even better still. |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.06 03:43:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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