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Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:50:00 -
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I mean really people have been complaining about them since the beginning of the last build and even the people who use them have called them op so why hasn't CCP done something to prevent people from spamming them? I don't even know any one who likes them the way they are now but please if there is anyone who believes it is good as is then let them come forward and let me know. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
218
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:51:00 -
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Cinnamon267
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:46:00 -
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Advanced AV nades make tanks a mere nuisance. They do need a nerf. |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty
EoN.
253
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:51:00 -
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They have been nerfd. They adjusted the fuse times, its just militia tanks are really crappy. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
461
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:09:00 -
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i support AV grenades.
i submit that they are not "op" because if your tank is anything above utter **** tier, the guy will run out of AV grenades before he kills you, AND you need to be fairly close to land them. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
Orion Empire
1266
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:11:00 -
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Yanno, even scouts can't outrun a moving tank.
Just saying - maybe it'd be wise to know when to make a tactical retreat WHEN YOU HAVE A TURRET THAT CAN KILL AT 80+ METERS! |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:34:00 -
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Im surprised that nobody has even mentioned militia swarms. Ive taken out a couple poor fit advanced tanks (who have no modules because skills are broken) with my standard anti-armor suit. Tanks have become the ginger kid on the playground rather than anything to actually fear. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
572
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:40:00 -
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With AV grenades in their current state, specializing in most AV weapons is a novelty. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:43:00 -
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I'd stop using them, but those LAV drivers keep telling me to adapt, |
noob 45
Syndicate of Gods
50
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:44:00 -
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Hacked Ex-0 AV grenades on the market right now for 2,000 isk and some change. ADV lvl AV grenades with 0 skill requirement. Buy them while you can. |
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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
540
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:45:00 -
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noob 45 wrote:Hacked Ex-0 AV grenades on the market right now for 2,000 isk and some change. ADV lvl AV grenades with 0 skill requirement. Buy them while you can.
Bought 500 of em already.. I might buy more lol |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
131
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:45:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:I mean really people have been complaining about them since the beginning of the last build and even the people who use them have called them op so why hasn't CCP done something to prevent people from spamming them? I don't even know any one who likes them the way they are now but please if there is anyone who believes it is good as is then let them come forward and let me know.
Haha, you must be the militia tanker I blew with 3 nades last night, my suggestions, from me to you, free of charge... invest a bit more.
No but seriously, I only see this problem with cheap tanks. |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:45:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:I mean really people have been complaining about them since the beginning of the last build and even the people who use them have called them op so why hasn't CCP done something to prevent people from spamming them? I don't even know any one who likes them the way they are now but please if there is anyone who believes it is good as is then let them come forward and let me know.
How else am i gonna damage tanks?
SWARM launchers cant kill anything unless is militia.
Forge guns are only for heavies.
So....Hmm... |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
131
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:02:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:I mean really people have been complaining about them since the beginning of the last build and even the people who use them have called them op so why hasn't CCP done something to prevent people from spamming them? I don't even know any one who likes them the way they are now but please if there is anyone who believes it is good as is then let them come forward and let me know. How else am i gonna damage tanks? SWARM launchers cant kill anything unless is militia. Forge guns are only for heavies. So....Hmm...
Oh dear, you again... lol. Swarms are just fine, you just need to invest in them, proto tanks are meant to be difficult to kill... |
Drommy Hood
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:34:00 -
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I think this is the first build where tanks and av are actually spot on. A well fit tank needs literally everything I can through at it. All the ammo I can carry in my av fit. That's using aurum weapons, proto damage and hitting home with all my av nades. It happens once in a few matches. Which I think means its probably perfect.
At one point it was impossible, then it was too easy. Now it has to be a really poorly fitted HAV to be solo'd with out a massive amount of luck/skill. Timing your attack for when his active moduals are in cool down and hitting the HAV with every price of ammo I possess. I miss with 1 or more likely he runs for the hills when the av nades start flying and it just doesn't work |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
37
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:45:00 -
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I'm almost positive that AV nades have had a reduction in damage in Uprising. EX-0 nades barely tickle std tanks anymore, where they would rip them apart in chromosome.
They do a good job against idiot LAV drivers running around trying to run you over, that is exactly their purpose. Any further nerf to AV nade damage would make them useless. |
13th Clone
The Merc Net
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:49:00 -
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I see them as nerfed already or at least the targeting locking on thing is broken or removed threw a av over a lav last build would drop down now it just flies over the lav so no more playing chicken with lav sadly lol |
WUT ANG
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
6
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:56:00 -
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Tankers stop complaining if your sitting next to a guy on a nanohive with av nades then your not a good driver or your team isn't protecting you. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
133
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:11:00 -
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WUT ANG wrote:Tankers stop complaining if your sitting next to a guy on a nanohive with av nades then your not a good driver or your team isn't protecting you.
Last night I faced a squad that had members in a proto tank and 2-3 guards on infantry protecting it, The driver was good, and ran behind hills when he dropped to half shield... if I tried to get close to grenade, the guards would put me down, I was not able to take it down this match, I never had so much trouble with a tank before. It's all about skills, investments and team work.  |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
Orion Empire
1267
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:15:00 -
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LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:WUT ANG wrote:Tankers stop complaining if your sitting next to a guy on a nanohive with av nades then your not a good driver or your team isn't protecting you. Last night I faced a squad that had members in a proto tank and 2-3 guards on infantry protecting it, The driver was good, and ran behind hills when he dropped to half shield... if I tried to get close to grenade, the guards would put me down, I was not able to take it down this match, I never had so much trouble with a tank before. It's all about skills, investments and team work.
If at first you don't succeed, whine whine until it's nerfed.
Then complain that the game is stagnant, boring and leave after the changes requested were made.
Such is the endless cycle of bullshit.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ Albert Einstein. Or Vaas. Your choice.
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Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
240
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Posted - 2013.05.09 10:45:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:noob 45 wrote:Hacked Ex-0 AV grenades on the market right now for 2,000 isk and some change. ADV lvl AV grenades with 0 skill requirement. Buy them while you can. Bought 500 of em already.. I might buy more lol
Yeah I get the feeling pretty much everyones merc quarters should really be jam packed full of crates of the things everyone is stockpiling them incase they get changed to an AUR item which is what I think they should be. |
BelleMorte MORTIMOR
Betaguards
2
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:03:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:They have been nerfd. They adjusted the fuse times, its just militia tanks are really crappy.
actually all the tanks are crappy and likely ony to get crappier from now on in dust 514 tankers will most likely only be seen sniping or afking
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
57
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:06:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:I mean really people have been complaining about them since the beginning of the last build and even the people who use them have called them op so why hasn't CCP done something to prevent people from spamming them? I don't even know any one who likes them the way they are now but please if there is anyone who believes it is good as is then let them come forward and let me know.
Are you aware that CCP nerfed nanohives in this buld, and you can not resupply "spamming" amount of grenades now? |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
590
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:07:00 -
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BelleMorte MORTIMOR wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote:They have been nerfd. They adjusted the fuse times, its just militia tanks are really crappy. actually all the tanks are crappy and likely ony to get crappier from now on in dust 514 tankers will most likely only be seen sniping or afking
If they do I'll join them until they buff all the nerfed weapons back to where they can compete with the AR. |
CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die
31
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:24:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote:I think this is the first build where tanks and av are actually spot on. A well fit tank needs literally everything I can through at it. All the ammo I can carry in my av fit. That's using aurum weapons, proto damage and hitting home with all my av nades. It happens once in a few matches. Which I think means its probably perfect.
At one point it was impossible, then it was too easy. Now it has to be a really poorly fitted HAV to be solo'd with out a massive amount of luck/skill. Timing your attack for when his active moduals are in cool down and hitting the HAV with every price of ammo I possess. I miss with 1 or more likely he runs for the hills when the av nades start flying and it just doesn't work
that sounds quite epic actually! |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
421
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:32:00 -
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AV grenades have been Nerfed in Uprising. About half the time they do nothing. Even when thrown at a vehicle that is not only close but stopped.
Maybe not a Nerf in fact but it is just as effective. |
Drommy Hood
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
277
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:13:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Drommy Hood wrote:I think this is the first build where tanks and av are actually spot on. A well fit tank needs literally everything I can through at it. All the ammo I can carry in my av fit. That's using aurum weapons, proto damage and hitting home with all my av nades. It happens once in a few matches. Which I think means its probably perfect.
At one point it was impossible, then it was too easy. Now it has to be a really poorly fitted HAV to be solo'd with out a massive amount of luck/skill. Timing your attack for when his active moduals are in cool down and hitting the HAV with every price of ammo I possess. I miss with 1 or more likely he runs for the hills when the av nades start flying and it just doesn't work that sounds quite epic actually!
Only happened the twice for myself, and not for lack of trying. the arum ones pop like balloons after just a few salvo's from the aurum Swarms, but a decent fitted tank is one tough cookie!!! ive come close a few times since, but they normally just make it over a hill/round a corner in low sheild/high armor, whilst im screaming at the screen as the final salvo needed crashes into whatever the tank just rounded.
Totes fun though. Need to join a corp again and get my self a buddy, then there will be no escape.
mwahahahaaaaa |
Delta 749
Maverick Security Consulting
34
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:29:00 -
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Seriously? Removing the homing, removing the explosion on impact, and lengthening the fuse time isnt enough for you?
And like others have said tanks are faster than infantry and you can kill someone thats on foot in a fraction of a second and you really think you need one of three, thats right only three, counter options a player on foot has against a tank nerfed?
You must really suck as a driver then if they are such a danger with the deck stacked in your favor the way it is now |
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