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Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:40:00 -
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Alrighty. We, 0RCS, a squad in battle in a FW game. What the French (WTF) had three squads -- one squad on our side and two on the other. All of WTF's squads fought hard (on both sides) and there was no evidence of collusion or sabotage but it did make me consider the potential issues of allowing a corporation to sign up on both sides of a FW battle.
Honestly, I'd love to see actual faction standings as in EVE. You keep hiring on to one side long enough (or playing both sides), sooner or later a faction would see you as an enemy. While I don't expect it to go this far, I still would like to see corps restricted to choosing one side or another in any FW match. Having squads from the same corp on both sides is silly, but worse, can and likely will result in exploitation.
Again, WTF played hard on both sides and I'm not suggesting they did anything wrong, only that the ability to do what they did will almost assuredly result in shenanigans by corps sooner rather than later. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
181
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:44:00 -
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Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Alrighty. We, 0RCS, a squad in battle in a FW game. What the French (WTF) had three squads -- one squad on our side and two on the other. All of WTF's squads fought hard (on both sides) and there was no evidence of collusion or sabotage but it did make me consider the potential issues of allowing a corporation to sign up on both sides of a FW battle.
Honestly, I'd love to see actual faction standings as in EVE. You keep hiring on to one side long enough (or playing both sides), sooner or later a faction would see you as an enemy. While I don't expect it to go this far, I still would like to see corps restricted to choosing one side or another in any FW match. Having squads from the same corp on both sides is silly, but worse, can and likely will result in exploitation.
Again, WTF played hard on both sides and I'm not suggesting they did anything wrong, only that the ability to do what they did will almost assuredly result in shenanigans by corps sooner rather than later.
My corp syncs into battles all the time. There isn't any sabotage. It's good fun and sometimes good training to go against your corp mates.
If you had WTF on your side, you should be happy. They are great players |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
260
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:01:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:[My corp syncs into battles all the time. There isn't any sabotage. It's good fun and sometimes good training to go against your corp mates.
If you had WTF on your side, you should be happy. They are great players
You clearly missed the point of the post. First, it's faction warfare I am referring to. It's not really queue synching. You simply squad up and choose a side. Have enough people you can fill up the whole battle with just your corp if you are quick enough.
Also, I said exactly what you said at the end. I love playing with WTF and against them, too. They in no way took advantage of the fact they had people on both sides. Both sides of WTF fought hard.
The concern is for the less 'honorable' corps that will abuse the ability to join both sides, especially since these are battles that have repercussions. Sabotage is a fact of life in New Eden. Not everyone will abuse a bad mechanic, but eventually enough will that it's important to try to identify such problems early.
As far as instant battles and queue synching, I could care less. It's random. If it happens it happens. Instant battles are just there to keep the masses entertained and for making ISK and SP. There have been TK'ers and AFK farmers destroying the balance of these games, at times, but whatever. I'm talking specifically about faction warfare as it works currently. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
487
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:09:00 -
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Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Alrighty. We, 0RCS, a squad in battle in a FW game. What the French (WTF) had three squads -- one squad on our side and two on the other. All of WTF's squads fought hard (on both sides) and there was no evidence of collusion or sabotage but it did make me consider the potential issues of allowing a corporation to sign up on both sides of a FW battle.
Honestly, I'd love to see actual faction standings as in EVE. You keep hiring on to one side long enough (or playing both sides), sooner or later a faction would see you as an enemy. While I don't expect it to go this far, I still would like to see corps restricted to choosing one side or another in any FW match. Having squads from the same corp on both sides is silly, but worse, can and likely will result in exploitation.
Again, WTF played hard on both sides and I'm not suggesting they did anything wrong, only that the ability to do what they did will almost assuredly result in shenanigans by corps sooner rather than later. My corp syncs into battles all the time. There isn't any sabotage. It's good fun and sometimes good training to go against your corp mates. If you had WTF on your side, you should be happy. They are great players You clearly missed the point of the post. First, it's faction warfare I am referring to. It's not really queue synching. You simply squad up and choose a side. Have enough people you can fill up the whole battle with just your corp if you are quick enough. Also, I said exactly what you said at the end. I love playing with WTF and against them, too. They in no way took advantage of the fact they had people on both sides. Both sides of WTF fought hard. The concern is for the less 'honorable' corps that will abuse the ability to join both sides, especially since these are battles that have repercussions.
I see your point, Corperations on both sides being able to sway the outcome of the battle into the favour of the Eve pilots for ISK donations. Its a legit tactic and will be abused in future unless CCP look at the possible options for stopping this.
It all depends on how much this can affect FW in Eve, if it can change the tide of a battle and the Eve collective find out about it the repercussions could be interesting. I hear Eve players dont like DUST much already, just think how p*ssed they will be when they find out we could exploit FW and change the out come of te battle and choose who will win. (Highest bidder usually)
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Darken Ages
Stoned Kloned Killers
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Posted - 2013.05.14 02:02:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Alrighty. We, 0RCS, a squad in battle in a FW game. What the French (WTF) had three squads -- one squad on our side and two on the other. All of WTF's squads fought hard (on both sides) and there was no evidence of collusion or sabotage but it did make me consider the potential issues of allowing a corporation to sign up on both sides of a FW battle.
Honestly, I'd love to see actual faction standings as in EVE. You keep hiring on to one side long enough (or playing both sides), sooner or later a faction would see you as an enemy. While I don't expect it to go this far, I still would like to see corps restricted to choosing one side or another in any FW match. Having squads from the same corp on both sides is silly, but worse, can and likely will result in exploitation.
Again, WTF played hard on both sides and I'm not suggesting they did anything wrong, only that the ability to do what they did will almost assuredly result in shenanigans by corps sooner rather than later. My corp syncs into battles all the time. There isn't any sabotage. It's good fun and sometimes good training to go against your corp mates. If you had WTF on your side, you should be happy. They are great players You clearly missed the point of the post. First, it's faction warfare I am referring to. It's not really queue synching. You simply squad up and choose a side. Have enough people you can fill up the whole battle with just your corp if you are quick enough. Also, I said exactly what you said at the end. I love playing with WTF and against them, too. They in no way took advantage of the fact they had people on both sides. Both sides of WTF fought hard. The concern is for the less 'honorable' corps that will abuse the ability to join both sides, especially since these are battles that have repercussions. I see your point, Corperations on both sides being able to sway the outcome of the battle into the favour of the Eve pilots for ISK donations. Its a legit tactic and will be abused in future unless CCP look at the possible options for stopping this. It all depends on how much this can affect FW in Eve, if it can change the tide of a battle and the Eve collective find out about it the repercussions could be interesting. I hear Eve players dont like DUST much already, just think how p*ssed they will be when they find out we could exploit FW and change the out come of te battle and choose who will win. (Highest bidder usually)
ok your right.i just played a game with 8 one arm bandits on the attacker side and 7 one arm bandits on the defender side which I was on,we lost bad because the 7 one arm bandits on my sde stayed in the mcc and when I ask what they are doing they replied,helping our team win by farming. that's not fair will ccp fix this or just lose a lot more players and money. the 7 on my team did nothing at all but informed them were the 8 of use was at and what we were going for. |
Azri Sarum
DUST University
Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2013.05.14 02:15:00 -
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Rep might be a way to handle this. Fight with someone, gain rep. Fight against someone, loose rep. Just need to have good reasons why you want rep with a faction.
Its doubtful ccp wants to force corps to choose a side in the FW and stick with it, since that prohibits the possibility of unaffiliated mercs, willing to work for whomever pays the most.
Sounds like we also need a report function... |
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