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steadyhand amarr
The Red Apple
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:59:00 -
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I'm building a theory based on reactions of the last few days because what I'm seeing in game is a totally diffrent story to what I'm seeing on the fourms namely people in game are loving dust hense the stable player count. And the only people who seem to have any issue are the hardcode players. However this might be my perception of me noticeing the same names.
So could say if u feel that ur a hardcore dust player or feel u are more casual player.
At the moment I feel certain groups are trying to force this game down a path the rest of us don't want but were all happy playing to tell the others to shove it :-P:-P.
But I would like evidence |
dingus munigus
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:01:00 -
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Casual and happy for the most part. Still needs a lot of work, but i'm enjoying the game. |
Rifter7
Improvise.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:01:00 -
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what are you even?.. |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
358
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:02:00 -
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im casual just go on dust to play ambush along with some fw and skirmish then i go on cod for a bit to play ground war and infected and then come back to dust i enjoy dust and will be here for when it gets better |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:03:00 -
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Every game has a vocal minority that feel like their opinion is more valid due to the length of time they've played, also known as bittervets. They tend to be very resistant to change, so its understandable the forums are full of them two days after the biggest set of changes Dust is likely to see for a while. |
LeCuch
Red Star. EoN.
62
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:04:00 -
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Hardcore
And although they seriously messed up the tank turret, i am looking forward to the new build ^_^ it presents a new challenge to tank driving that i find exiting
Plus chicago cubs would be sad if he couldnt proto forge gun me anymore |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
227
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:05:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm building a theory based on reactions of the last few days because what I'm seeing in game is a totally diffrent story to what I'm seeing on the fourms namely people in game are loving dust hense the stable player count. And the only people who seem to have any issue are the hardcode players. However this might be my perception of me noticeing the same names.
So could say if u feel that ur a hardcore dust player or feel u are more casual player.
At the moment I feel certain groups are trying to force this game down a path the rest of us don't want but were all happy playing to tell the others to shove it :-P:-P.
But I would like evidence
http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
This is why the game won't be viable as an FPS. These numbers could work if it were open world single shard. But in fixed number lobby shooter they will not. As more and more separation occurs through FW, PC and the variants of gamemodes it has finding stable connections will be difficult and proper matchmaking to insulate new players from the 11M+ SP vets is just not possible.
So while i am a casualcore player (i play when i can but im super competitive) i know that new players is the lifeblood of any online game and this game has simply no way for players to get into the game quickly.
Starting SP is too low SP costs are too high There is a SP cap(so you cant even powergrind to a decent suit)
All of this is coming from the MMO hardcore of veteran players get advantage in MMO, in FPS a veteran player can get stomped by a newb if the newb has player skill.
This game needs to function more FPS MMO and less MMO FPS.
Make progression simpler or at the least quicker to get into. Combine it with raiding, looting, market, economy, persistance, Role play, and indepth customization and this game will do very well.
Stick to this model and well
http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
358
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:09:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm building a theory based on reactions of the last few days because what I'm seeing in game is a totally diffrent story to what I'm seeing on the fourms namely people in game are loving dust hense the stable player count. And the only people who seem to have any issue are the hardcode players. However this might be my perception of me noticeing the same names.
So could say if u feel that ur a hardcore dust player or feel u are more casual player.
At the moment I feel certain groups are trying to force this game down a path the rest of us don't want but were all happy playing to tell the others to shove it :-P:-P.
But I would like evidence http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustThis is why the game won't be viable as an FPS. These numbers could work if it were open world single shard. But in fixed number lobby shooter they will not. As more and more separation occurs through FW, PC and the variants of gamemodes it has finding stable connections will be difficult and proper matchmaking to insulate new players from the 11M+ SP vets is just not possible. So while i am a casualcore player (i play when i can but im super competitive) i know that new players is the lifeblood of any online game and this game has simply no way for players to get into the game quickly. Starting SP is too low SP costs are too high There is a SP cap(so you cant even powergrind to a decent suit) All of this is coming from the MMO hardcore of veteran players get advantage in MMO, in FPS a veteran player can get stomped by a newb if the newb has player skill. This game needs to function more FPS MMO and less MMO FPS. Make progression simpler or at the least quicker to get into. Combine it with raiding, looting, market, economy, persistance, Role play, and indepth customization and this game will do very well. Stick to this model and well http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
its early most of us work and have school during the day we all cant no life the game all day so you posting that is useless idiot |
steadyhand amarr
The Red Apple
484
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:13:00 -
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Stay on topic :-) the idea is to see if expectations difference between the two groups |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
158
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:13:00 -
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I think is various factors
For example ;
I consider my self a Hardcore player as for : I been playing games for many years, i play almost every single new release ( that is half decent ), and if i like the game allot, i can easily play 6 - 8 hours a day, every day.
To me personally this New build is nearly perfect, not counting bugs and other small issues ( That can be fix as we go )
No sure what " Hardcore " means in Dust 514... maybe someone could explained to me ? |
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
227
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:44:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm building a theory based on reactions of the last few days because what I'm seeing in game is a totally diffrent story to what I'm seeing on the fourms namely people in game are loving dust hense the stable player count. And the only people who seem to have any issue are the hardcode players. However this might be my perception of me noticeing the same names.
So could say if u feel that ur a hardcore dust player or feel u are more casual player.
At the moment I feel certain groups are trying to force this game down a path the rest of us don't want but were all happy playing to tell the others to shove it :-P:-P.
But I would like evidence http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustThis is why the game won't be viable as an FPS. These numbers could work if it were open world single shard. But in fixed number lobby shooter they will not. As more and more separation occurs through FW, PC and the variants of gamemodes it has finding stable connections will be difficult and proper matchmaking to insulate new players from the 11M+ SP vets is just not possible. So while i am a casualcore player (i play when i can but im super competitive) i know that new players is the lifeblood of any online game and this game has simply no way for players to get into the game quickly. Starting SP is too low SP costs are too high There is a SP cap(so you cant even powergrind to a decent suit) All of this is coming from the MMO hardcore of veteran players get advantage in MMO, in FPS a veteran player can get stomped by a newb if the newb has player skill. This game needs to function more FPS MMO and less MMO FPS. Make progression simpler or at the least quicker to get into. Combine it with raiding, looting, market, economy, persistance, Role play, and indepth customization and this game will do very well. Stick to this model and well http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust its early most of us work and have school during the day we all cant no life the game all day so you posting that is useless idiot
I multitask just fine, doesnt change the facts why dont you learn to read graphs and look at trends or did you completely ignore the trends over the last 3 months.
If you have a job you must work in some bloated bureaucratic capacity requiring instruction to do your job, certainly aren't the type to be able to think or manage for yourself are you? IF you are in school, hit the books a bit harder because you will need it. |
steadyhand amarr
The Red Apple
484
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:44:00 -
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Panther Just how u see yourself its part of process. The answer is subjective so I need the context of how u view yourself within dust or as a gamer |
Kazio De Vihura
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:45:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm building a theory based on reactions of the last few days because what I'm seeing in game is a totally diffrent story to what I'm seeing on the fourms namely people in game are loving dust hense the stable player count. And the only people who seem to have any issue are the hardcode players. However this might be my perception of me noticeing the same names.
So could say if u feel that ur a hardcore dust player or feel u are more casual player.
At the moment I feel certain groups are trying to force this game down a path the rest of us don't want but were all happy playing to tell the others to shove it :-P:-P.
But I would like evidence max 4500 logged in only hadcore fanboys play this game... |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
360
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:48:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Nstomper wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm building a theory based on reactions of the last few days because what I'm seeing in game is a totally diffrent story to what I'm seeing on the fourms namely people in game are loving dust hense the stable player count. And the only people who seem to have any issue are the hardcode players. However this might be my perception of me noticeing the same names.
So could say if u feel that ur a hardcore dust player or feel u are more casual player.
At the moment I feel certain groups are trying to force this game down a path the rest of us don't want but were all happy playing to tell the others to shove it :-P:-P.
But I would like evidence http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustThis is why the game won't be viable as an FPS. These numbers could work if it were open world single shard. But in fixed number lobby shooter they will not. As more and more separation occurs through FW, PC and the variants of gamemodes it has finding stable connections will be difficult and proper matchmaking to insulate new players from the 11M+ SP vets is just not possible. So while i am a casualcore player (i play when i can but im super competitive) i know that new players is the lifeblood of any online game and this game has simply no way for players to get into the game quickly. Starting SP is too low SP costs are too high There is a SP cap(so you cant even powergrind to a decent suit) All of this is coming from the MMO hardcore of veteran players get advantage in MMO, in FPS a veteran player can get stomped by a newb if the newb has player skill. This game needs to function more FPS MMO and less MMO FPS. Make progression simpler or at the least quicker to get into. Combine it with raiding, looting, market, economy, persistance, Role play, and indepth customization and this game will do very well. Stick to this model and well http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust its early most of us work and have school during the day we all cant no life the game all day so you posting that is useless idiot I multitask just fine, doesnt change the facts why dont you learn to read graphs and look at trends or did you completely ignore the trends over the last 3 months. If you have a job you must work in some bloated bureaucratic capacity requiring instruction to do your job, certainly aren't the type to be able to think or manage for yourself are you? IF you are in school, hit the books a bit harder because you will need it. im graduating in june lmfao i dont really hit the books , but just keep wasting your time posting the same comment on diffrent threads like it matters IMP |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
67
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:49:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm building a theory based on reactions of the last few days because what I'm seeing in game is a totally diffrent story to what I'm seeing on the fourms namely people in game are loving dust hense the stable player count. And the only people who seem to have any issue are the hardcode players. However this might be my perception of me noticeing the same names.
So could say if u feel that ur a hardcore dust player or feel u are more casual player.
At the moment I feel certain groups are trying to force this game down a path the rest of us don't want but were all happy playing to tell the others to shove it :-P:-P.
But I would like evidence http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustThis is why the game won't be viable as an FPS. These numbers could work if it were open world single shard. But in fixed number lobby shooter they will not. As more and more separation occurs through FW, PC and the variants of gamemodes it has finding stable connections will be difficult and proper matchmaking to insulate new players from the 11M+ SP vets is just not possible. So while i am a casualcore player (i play when i can but im super competitive) i know that new players is the lifeblood of any online game and this game has simply no way for players to get into the game quickly. Starting SP is too low SP costs are too high There is a SP cap(so you cant even powergrind to a decent suit) All of this is coming from the MMO hardcore of veteran players get advantage in MMO, in FPS a veteran player can get stomped by a newb if the newb has player skill. This game needs to function more FPS MMO and less MMO FPS. Make progression simpler or at the least quicker to get into. Combine it with raiding, looting, market, economy, persistance, Role play, and indepth customization and this game will do very well. Stick to this model and well http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Oh boy, you know **** hits the fan when I'm agreeing on all points with an imp. +1 bud.
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arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
228
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:50:00 -
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Look at the graphs again they only have data going back to monday, hardly a large enough sample size to really do anything with. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
152
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:54:00 -
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My play is generally casual. I don't have a large corp nor want one, just generally play with a handful of friends. I don't plan to get big into Planetary Conquest but I would hope to be hired as a mercenary to help other corps.
My interest is more hardcore though, I am invested into the future of Dust and I enjoy the community and actively try to get more people into it, I like all the stats and such, and I plan to play for a long time.
My views on Uprising? Some minor flaws but overall much better than Chromosome. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
227
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:55:00 -
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Nstomper wrote: im graduating in june lmfao i dont really hit the books , but just keep wasting your time posting the same comment on diffrent threads like it matters IMP
Congrat june graduation, enjoy that high school diploma, maybe some university education will teach you how to look at trends and not isolated points of simple numbers.
Then again its difficult to teach people about process or trends and how they relate to systems analysis, its really an innate skill that can only be learned over time. Not to worry someday you will understand, today just clearly isnt it.
You must be so sore knowing that despite your schooling you still remain a hapless idiot with no utility in the real world. Like i said keep staying in school, at best you are currently suited for menial tasks in the job market. |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
360
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:03:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Nstomper wrote: im graduating in june lmfao i dont really hit the books , but just keep wasting your time posting the same comment on diffrent threads like it matters IMP
Congrat june graduation, enjoy that high school diploma, maybe some university education will teach you how to look at trends and not isolated points of simple numbers. Then again its difficult to teach people about process or trends and how they relate to systems analysis, its really an innate skill that can only be learned over time. Not to worry someday you will understand, today just clearly isnt it. You must be so sore knowing that despite your schooling you still remain a hapless idiot with no utility in the real world. Like i said keep staying in school, at best you are currently suited for menial tasks in the job market. lol at this person acting like he or she knows me in real life. but ofcourse id expect a comment like this coming from an imp |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
228
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:11:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Nstomper wrote: im graduating in june lmfao i dont really hit the books , but just keep wasting your time posting the same comment on diffrent threads like it matters IMP
Congrat june graduation, enjoy that high school diploma, maybe some university education will teach you how to look at trends and not isolated points of simple numbers. Then again its difficult to teach people about process or trends and how they relate to systems analysis, its really an innate skill that can only be learned over time. Not to worry someday you will understand, today just clearly isnt it. You must be so sore knowing that despite your schooling you still remain a hapless idiot with no utility in the real world. Like i said keep staying in school, at best you are currently suited for menial tasks in the job market. lol at this person acting like he or she knows me in real life. but ofcourse id expect a comment like this coming from an imp
meh troll harder; its quite sad your original point got squashed and now you have nothing. Like i said you are best suited to menial tasks, let the idea generation and solutions come from ppl who can look, interpret, analyze and problem solve.
Hint: you aren't one of them |
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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
43
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:14:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote: namely people in game are loving dust hense the stable player count.
it was 5k on PATCH DAY for an OPEN BETA
that's absolutely horrible. planetside 2 has something like 30k active players and that's considered a damn ghost town!
it's already dropped to 3k not two days later, that's even worse! and a decent chunk of them are AFK!
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Nstomper
The Sangheli
361
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:14:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Nstomper wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Nstomper wrote: im graduating in june lmfao i dont really hit the books , but just keep wasting your time posting the same comment on diffrent threads like it matters IMP
Congrat june graduation, enjoy that high school diploma, maybe some university education will teach you how to look at trends and not isolated points of simple numbers. Then again its difficult to teach people about process or trends and how they relate to systems analysis, its really an innate skill that can only be learned over time. Not to worry someday you will understand, today just clearly isnt it. You must be so sore knowing that despite your schooling you still remain a hapless idiot with no utility in the real world. Like i said keep staying in school, at best you are currently suited for menial tasks in the job market. lol at this person acting like he or she knows me in real life. but ofcourse id expect a comment like this coming from an imp meh troll harder; its quite sad your original point got squashed and now you have nothing. Like i said you are best suited to menial tasks, let the idea generation and solutions come from ppl who can look, interpret, analyze and problem solve. Hint: you aren't one of them like i said you dont know me so stfu and move one |
steadyhand amarr
The Red Apple
485
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:18:00 -
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Ignore the imp he is just clingon trying bask in the glory others worked hard to build :-) try and stay on topic |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
228
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:20:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Nstomper wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Nstomper wrote: im graduating in june lmfao i dont really hit the books , but just keep wasting your time posting the same comment on diffrent threads like it matters IMP
Congrat june graduation, enjoy that high school diploma, maybe some university education will teach you how to look at trends and not isolated points of simple numbers. Then again its difficult to teach people about process or trends and how they relate to systems analysis, its really an innate skill that can only be learned over time. Not to worry someday you will understand, today just clearly isnt it. You must be so sore knowing that despite your schooling you still remain a hapless idiot with no utility in the real world. Like i said keep staying in school, at best you are currently suited for menial tasks in the job market. lol at this person acting like he or she knows me in real life. but ofcourse id expect a comment like this coming from an imp meh troll harder; its quite sad your original point got squashed and now you have nothing. Like i said you are best suited to menial tasks, let the idea generation and solutions come from ppl who can look, interpret, analyze and problem solve. Hint: you aren't one of them like i said you dont know me so stfu and move one
No i dont think i will you came in swinging a big stick and calling me a coward in other threads, and decided to label me an idiot. This is me simply returning the favour while responding to your criticisms.
HTFU and perhaps next time don't look at my tags and think i can easily troll or flame this guy cause well eff them they are IMPS what they hell do they know?
You can deny that wasnt you're intent all you want, you just simply bit off more than you could chew and didnt read my entire post; you looked at my tags, a few choice words and drew a conclusion prematurely. But yea i'lll leave you alone now ive made my point. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
228
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:26:00 -
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Keyser your tendency to turn to personal attacks even further shows you to be an idiot, hover your bloody mouse over any one of those graphs and read the date. There is no three months worth of data with which analyze trends. You are working with insufficient data if you are doing anything at all other than spewing contradictions.
"Then again its difficult to teach people about process or trends and how they relate to systems analysis, its really an innate skill that can only be learned over time."
Facepalm |
Djheffer
O.Q.R.D.
1
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:07:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm building a theory based on reactions of the last few days because what I'm seeing in game is a totally diffrent story to what I'm seeing on the fourms namely people in game are loving dust hense the stable player count. And the only people who seem to have any issue are the hardcode players. However this might be my perception of me noticeing the same names.
So could say if u feel that ur a hardcore dust player or feel u are more casual player.
At the moment I feel certain groups are trying to force this game down a path the rest of us don't want but were all happy playing to tell the others to shove it :-P:-P.
But I would like evidence http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustThis is why the game won't be viable as an FPS. These numbers could work if it were open world single shard. But in fixed number lobby shooter they will not. As more and more separation occurs through FW, PC and the variants of gamemodes it has finding stable connections will be difficult and proper matchmaking to insulate new players from the 11M+ SP vets is just not possible. So while i am a casualcore player (i play when i can but im super competitive) i know that new players is the lifeblood of any online game and this game has simply no way for players to get into the game quickly. Starting SP is too low SP costs are too high There is a SP cap(so you cant even powergrind to a decent suit) All of this is coming from the MMO hardcore of veteran players get advantage in MMO, in FPS a veteran player can get stomped by a newb if the newb has player skill. This game needs to function more FPS MMO and less MMO FPS. Make progression simpler or at the least quicker to get into. Combine it with raiding, looting, market, economy, persistance, Role play, and indepth customization and this game will do very well. Stick to this model and well http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust its early most of us work and have school during the day we all cant no life the game all day so you posting that is useless idiot
Oh snap! He called you an idiot! Thats low. So low I would recommend ignoring it, because even if your graph dosn't show a large enough sample size, remember that "we cant all no life the game all day". Your thoughtfull input was not appriciated and your being trolled. So ignore the chap and focus on legit posts. Else you might "no life the forums" all day, arguing pointlessly with people who may never realise that they are trolling.
P.S. I'm right in the middle of casual/hardcore. I log many hours a day, but take lots of brakes to work/study/socialize.
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