DUST Search - SP reset for vehicle specalists

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

I was one of the people who identified this problem and posted on the forums.

I found it by accident while doing what I THOUGHT was the sensible thing, reading the descriptions of the skills, going through the list and sorting through them, then deciding what to buy and skill into.

I found a skill - Vehicle Engineering - which said it gave +5% to my PG capacity on vehicles.

It doesn't, but I wasn't to discover that until I'd invested heavily into the skill in a futile effort to increase my PG for a fitting I was trying to create.

The devs haven't even given a straight answer on whether the skill is even meant to give the bonus it's described as having, but either way, I've probably over-trained it now even if they fix the skill to match how the current description says it should act. If they change the description and make the passive something other than what I skilled into, I need the ability to remove all my vehicle skills, because it's happened to an alt with less than 3 million SP, and I don't have extra SP to spare for skills that aren't useful for me. If I don't get competent fitting skills for my tank, I'm not going to be able to build a viable tank, and as such, I'm not going to use any of the skills I've poured my SP into. Even if they correct it propely, I want the ability to un-train all the vehicle skills because I overtrained the other skills in order to try and create a fitting I wanted while the skills weren't applying correctly. CCP's failure to provide correct information and correct functionality on skills wasn't my fault, and shouldn't be held against me. If they fix the skills, and I choose to skill into them when they're working as described, then any buyer's remorse is my own fault for choosing to train those skills.

Imagine you go into a shop and ask for a banana, hand over your money, then get given an apple and told "sorry, today's special is that if you ask for a banana, we give you an apple" and when you ask why there's no sign up, they say, "yeah there is!" and pull the sign out from under the counter where it's impossible to see. That's perfectly fair, though, right? Because they decided it was fine to give you something other than what you bought from them? No problems? (pro-tip: if you agree there are no problems with this scenario, you're an idiot)


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GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Unclaimed. 415	Posted - 2013.05.08 12:35:00 - [1] - Quote If CCP had said at some point that they were planning on taking a big steaming dump on vehicles then maybe I wouldn't have specced into them. If CCP had put up the proper descriptions on the skills, I would have been able to see how badly it was going to go, and I would have avoided being in that mess completely. So yes, a respec for the people who were misled by CCP's bad info.
GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Unclaimed. 415	Posted - 2013.05.08 13:10:00 - [2] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I was one of the people who identified this problem and posted on the forums. I found it by accident while doing what I THOUGHT was the sensible thing, reading the descriptions of the skills, going through the list and sorting through them, then deciding what to buy and skill into. I found a skill - Vehicle Engineering - which said it gave +5% to my PG capacity on vehicles. It doesn't, but I wasn't to discover that until I'd invested heavily into the skill in a futile effort to increase my PG for a fitting I was trying to create. The devs haven't even given a straight answer on whether the skill is even meant to give the bonus it's described as having, but either way, I've probably over-trained it now even if they fix the skill to match how the current description says it should act. If they change the description and make the passive something other than what I skilled into, I need the ability to remove all my vehicle skills, because it's happened to an alt with less than 3 million SP, and I don't have extra SP to spare for skills that aren't useful for me. If I don't get competent fitting skills for my tank, I'm not going to be able to build a viable tank, and as such, I'm not going to use any of the skills I've poured my SP into. Even if they correct it propely, I want the ability to un-train all the vehicle skills because I overtrained the other skills in order to try and create a fitting I wanted while the skills weren't applying correctly. CCP's failure to provide correct information and correct functionality on skills wasn't my fault, and shouldn't be held against me. If they fix the skills, and I choose to skill into them when they're working as described, then any buyer's remorse is my own fault for choosing to train those skills. Imagine you go into a shop and ask for a banana, hand over your money, then get given an apple and told "sorry, today's special is that if you ask for a banana, we give you an apple" and when you ask why there's no sign up, they say, "yeah there is!" and pull the sign out from under the counter where it's impossible to see. That's perfectly fair, though, right? Because they decided it was fine to give you something other than what you bought from them? No problems? (pro-tip: if you agree there are no problems with this scenario, you're an idiot) This is a very good description of the problem. QFT.