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mollerz
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:25:00 -
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hmm.. In general, what if you had to pay SPs to respec?
Say 500k SPs to resepec. As many times as you want to afford it.
But! With regards to this point and time.. I think a respec on the 14th makes sense.
- not all content was released so some people are doing things blind. honestly, if they had released everything- I'd say no respec as well.
- the skill system currently has black holes. For example- if you spec into dropsuit command. Anyone who specs to level 5 is a sucker right now. Spec'ing past 4 for 155k+SP nets you nothing. In the past build it equated to a 5% decrease in your sig. this build it's 0. So the system is obviously not finished or in error, etc. Dropsuit Command is another black hole trap. After level 3 you get no benefit. HEavies are opened at lv 3. To pay lv 4&5 is another expensive black hole with no explanation of any future benefits.. or how far into the future those benefits are.
CCP changed a lot of their approach to what was being released and what wasn't.
So to me, it seems fair and not really a big deal to call it a tester showcase week (CCP made it into one), and on full release when they release everything everyone gets to start fresh. If CCP can start fresh, so should everyone else.
and like the other thread- full disclosure on my part- I would respec everything exactly the way i already did. I read everything, budgeted, tested, and am very happy with my choices. The only sadness I have is I was short 50K SP to get a decent weapon after all was said and done. 10.8m SP just wasn't enough ;) |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:40:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:
If a skill is broken, give the player that sp back for that skill....simple
I take it you mean if a player paid SPs for LV 4 and 5 into Dropsuit command (for example) and fall into said black hole, CCP should refund the SPS solely for LV4 and 5 of that skill? To refund the sp back for the skill would create paradoxes since the skills i mentioned were entry level prereq skills :)
I guess that would define a sense of fairness. But, I feel the rest of my reasoning is just as valid toward being wholly fair.
CCP got to shuffle and change- thus creating a situation where they got to release partial content. There's no doubt this created confusion on top of the sweeping changes they made. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:04:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:
I never skilled into dropsuit command for the % benifit it claimed to give.....has it ever worked?
Hard to say for sure- but I mostly played a successful lone wolf scout and would routinely shoot people in the back as well as kill unawares snipers from close range in hills and stuff. shrug. I think so?
I know anyone serious about stealth maxed that as well as profile dampening.
Another thing about a respec- I don't believe it would give anyone an advantage either. CCP changed a lot. A LOT. Their job isn't to punish customers. If they had a flawless launch with all the content, I'd be with you. But that is far from the case. So to me it seems fair.
The reasoning that i's new eden doesn't pass the eve test. This is a developer caused confusion. Not a player one. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:48:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Considering what you just said, perhaps the question should be.... will a respec help at all? if there is so many broken components. I play on the free builds they give us and have a blast..... with 0 out of 11 million sp invested
I do know as I said about the proto investers out of the gate kicking themselves in the ass and are praying and helping promote a respec for that reason alone.... making a bad investment, and with that comes alot of excuses.... and that is just being blunt and truthful
Ah man I'm running a minmatar proto light and having a blast. to each their own.
but that's not relevant here. The questions isn't whether a respec will help or not. The question is a respec fair given the particulars of the situation.
It is mean spirited, if anything, to tell a player to HTFU this is business as usual when it's a developer caused situation. Also, I don't believe it will give anyone an unfair advantage. They aren't going to make extra SPs off of it. So what if they change direction even. They are just better equipped to play the game on a level playing field as opposed to being stuck with something for god knows how long because it's fubar from go. It will have only been ten days without all the content of release since the respec. There is no advantage to be had in a way it negatively affects the game. maybe a small fraction of players will become tougher opponents because of it, but is that really the concern? |
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