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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:19:00 -
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Skill respec is only valid because there are skills where the description doesn't match the effect provided.
They have no right to charge us for THEIR mistakes causing us to skill into useless things, or overskill into things that are currently not working as intended. Regardless of which problem is the case, it's a problem caused by CCP's own mistake, not by players making bad decisions. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:36:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Skill respec is only valid because there are skills where the description doesn't match the effect provided.
They have no right to charge us for THEIR mistakes causing us to skill into useless things, or overskill into things that are currently not working as intended. Regardless of which problem is the case, it's a problem caused by CCP's own mistake, not by players making bad decisions. So this is the excuse for people going bat sh@t crazy? I wonder how many broken skills we had last build? I want to see how many people blew all their sp going straight into proto on day one and how many of those people are wanting refunds.... If a skill is broken, give the player that sp back for that skill....simple
It would be that simple if it wasn't a skill that literally completely invalidates the entire concept of vehicle fittings by being broken.
Our +5% PG skill doesn't give +5% PG. It supposedly gives a 5% reduction in CPU cost for PG modules, but on my tank, it doesn't seem to be doing that either. And while some people have said otherwise, my Electronics skill doesn't seem to have applied the relevant 5% CPU increase either.
When you literally can't skill into vehicles because of broken skills not working as described, and you find out after skilling into several aspects of the vehicle before realising the skills don't work, only refunding the broken skills isn't a solution. I can't fit a tank as I had planned, and as I had worked out I should be able to, and as such, I'm not going to run tanks on that character. It's an alt with a fairly tight SP limit, not my main, so I don't have SP to spare on a series of broken skills that don't apply their bonuses as advertised, and without those skills, I'm going to need to respec completely. ALL the skills that have issues need fixing and refunding, and if they aren't being fixed to match the current descriptions, then a FULL respec is needed. Or at least the whole vehicle tree needs to be refunded.
EDIT: although even then, the minimal skills I've trained for infantry were to support my intended role as a tanker, so a full respec would still be more worthwhile so I can fix my character and PROPERLY build for the new intended role. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:04:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:So I asuming from what you have said, in which if true, which I will assume, CCP is aware of this and plans on not fixing it?
They've said they're aware of a problem with "the vehicle PG skill" without being clear on whether the problem is an incorrect description or a correct description and an incorrect bonus being applied (which doesn't seem to be working for everyone). They've said they intend to fix it, but haven't said how they intend to fix it.
If they fix it by changing the description, I need a full respec to get out of vehicles and into something I'm going to actually be able to play.
If they fix it by actually fixing it, I need a respec on the skills I over-trained because I was trying to make my fitting work with broken skills that weren't applying the appropriate bonuses, not all of which are specifically the skills that aren't working correctly. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:57:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Considering what you just said, perhaps the question should be.... will a respec help at all? if there is so many broken components. I play on the free builds they give us and have a blast..... with 0 out of 11 million sp invested
I do know as I said about the proto investers out of the gate kicking themselves in the ass and are praying and helping promote a respec for that reason alone.... making a bad investment, and with that comes alot of excuses.... and that is just being blunt and truthful
There are a handful of broken core skills for vehicles.
Devs have mentioned that there are known issues but listed - so far - only one of the problem skills that I've seen.
If they fix the issues, AND let us respec with the skills fixed, then yes, a respec will help. If they DON'T fix it, or if they "fix" it by changing descriptions to match what the skills actually do, a respec will still help because we can skill into something useful instead. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:52:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:There's respec already available, it's called "Terminate Character".
Bad thread, bad posters, half a decade old.
And this fixes the over-use of SP on dev-confirmed broken skills without deleting BPOs or losing any earned SP?
Pretty sure you're wrong. |
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