I think they will be cool to, my friend bobeh.

Just the PG skill is my only problem atm. And the turret having NO up/down turning

I haven't noticed a difference tbh, Enforcers are my biggest gripe, but I'm over that. I can still pull out some good scores on Gunnlogis/Madrugars.

Only problem is that AV Nade that requires no SP.

PG/CPU gained from core skills has been nerfed though, cant build the Blaster tank I had last build in missile form anymore.

Hacked AV Grenade, and almost no one has the proto breach forge gun yet.

not nerfed broken skill.

i've been hit by proto forge the isokome and it dealt 1,600 damage. earlier thou my dropship 2,800 shield got one shoted prehaps a proto breach forge i dunno i bailed.

This thread says it only is supposed to give +1% per level.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73748&find=unread

Post-Uprising known issues:

GÇó Power Grid Skill is not correctly applying to vehicles [TO BE FIXED]

Chicago hit my base sica for 2600 shield with an Ishukone Assault FG with no shield resistors on it

Core skills are shafting us where as the core skills for the dropsuits are excatly the same, why the bias to dropsuits?

All large turrets have no elevation now to go with no depression, this kills off the railgun

Missiles are more useful but still crap, small missiles rock

Some mods require dropsuit skills

Hacked AV nades require no skills to use, everyone has them and spams them

FG/SL still hurt just as much

Shield and armor still have massive differences

Armor get nerfed because of less PG so you get shafted for fits

EDIT: Enforcer tanks are shite milita versions

broken PG means i can't get another extender on my python, so i have 3k EHP total, in other words, i get hit by any form of AV i'm dead. only complaint that makes me angry right now.

i can't wait to get my python. i flew one and fell in love. :D

Broken PG has shafted the Madrugar atm

Cant even fit the best plated, IG-L heavy rep and a turret on it because you run out of PG

You are forced to use PG extenders

In fact you are forced to use PG extenders for every tank you try to fit

they actually have the highest base PG/CPU out of all the dropships and it has the same base HP as the viper, that is too say only a hundred less armour and a hundred less shield than a myron. The assault and logi ships actually now have the best base stats out of all the dropships, it shows in the fact that while i spent ages on my eryx and python fits, i didn't even bother to put together a myron fit. gonna change that though, just to have it there as a backup fit.

missiles r good any better and they would be op

i hope so they r different types of tanks


the shield one might make missiles op we'll have to see.

The logi LAVs are still broken. They do not repair infantry armor. As for DS, my Grim is harder to control it seems now. It feels like it slides around too much.

Also, it seems that rail gun turrets have crazy range now. I have been shot down by rail gun turrets across the map.

we get it the pg is broken u don't need to repeat yourself. and we know the skill is broken.

These 3 statements show you for a fool. Missles STILL have huge issues, they're just less broken than railguns at the moment so it's the only option.

He is probably referring to the fact that nothing in shield upgrades increases our shield skills. they all reduce CPU usage of modules.(which no tank has issue with) The armor variants increase the capbilities of modules.

Enforcers have Less CPU, the same PG, less armor, less shield and the same everything else.

They are outclassed by militia tanks.

The skill has gone

Read it that is the response i have got from CCP

No 5% per level, instead all you will get is 5% and that is it

Not 25% for PG only a measly 5%, you lose 20% PG which shafts every single vehicle fit out ther

Where as the dropsuit still gets its engineering bonus in its core skills

Once again the vehicle specialists have got nerfed

If you dont believe me check out my thread,

CCP why the vehicle PG stealth nerf?

flying assault dropship is reallt the only redeeming factor for me, for now, the no UVT is also extremely convenient, the game now has more community due to this.. still havent got my first confirmed assault DS kill but when i do it will be rewarding.. 3 days off of work ahead, get your forge guns ready..

Missiles r great i have them proto and i've seen ted nugent go 27/0 with them so no they r good

armor has more health and shields do more damage wats the problem o yea broken skills we get tht.

i find myself with cpu issues a lot and since the enforcer has less cpu than a gunnlogi i would think u'd run into problems.

Missiles r great i have them proto and i've seen ted nugent go 27/0 with them so no they r good

armor has more health and shields do more damage wats the problem o yea broken skills we get tht.

i find myself with cpu issues a lot and since the enforcer has less cpu than a gunnlogi i would think u'd run into problems.

those stats have been of sisi test servers for how many weeks u don't think they would have caught tht error. they even said it needed to be fixed in under bugs.

Oh I didn't realize how beyond help you were. Carry on.

Missiles still don't go where you aim and have no splash range at all. Good luck fighting another vehicle that is moving with missiles.

Armor core upgrades make armor modules better.
Shield core upgrades make shield modules.... nothing. They are useless except to unlock the modules.

Enforces are a downgrade in EVERYWAY. (At least for Gunnlogi/Falchion don't know about the armor variant)

Idiot

If i could link my thread i would but it gives me errors

Go search

'CCP why the vehicle PG stealth nerf?'

CCP has replied with what the skills should be, we have lost PG our tanks are all ****** up and the armor tank suffers worse because it loses a low slot to a mandatory PG slot

yeah the ADS is the fastest dropship and the most maneuverable, downside is you have this constant fight against temptation to go kill things when you know you should play things safe and to top that off the lowest HP as well.

Straight bollocks, everything was defo diff last build and everyone had access to engineering in general so thats out the window

Im wasting my time

well later since u think tanks r so bad. but yet have no reason other than i don't have 25% boost to powergrid. i remember when tanks didn't even have tht skill. XD

No because it was just engineering which effected both and lots of build back tanks were alot stronger in everything

******* brick wall

yeah well av got a nerf so wat. ur mad cause u can't make as good of a tank as before. but before av hurt a lot more. so u get less health and the things tht hurt u do less damage.

Reward > Risk reward is an epic flight and some kills.

AV got a nerf lolno

Plz explain that one

yeah, their expensive though, my oython fit comes in about 1.7 million isk, 3 proto turrets and a 700k isk base price really kick up the price. actually, i'm going to downgrade the side turrets, its not like i need them used or anything.

prehaps they shoot faster i havn't tested the range. have u tried scout lavs r they any good? but rails def do less damage. 2.5k proto compressed 2 damage mods.

I don't know about the scout. Right now I just run people over with it. I have 1200 in shields and 2k in armor. As soon as they fix the reppers the logi LAV will be very valuable in matches.

Please let us know on the rail gun turrets. It just seems that the rails have scary range.

Core skills are shafting us where as the core skills for the dropsuits are excatly the same, why the bias to dropsuits?

All large turrets have no elevation now to go with no depression, this kills off the railgun

Missiles are more useful but still crap, small missiles rock

Some mods require dropsuit skills

Hacked AV nades require no skills to use, everyone has them and spams them

FG/SL still hurt just as much

Shield and armor still have massive differences

Armor get nerfed because of less PG so you get shafted for fits

EDIT: Enforcer tanks are shite milita versions

EDIT 2: Recall is good but if a blueberry is in it i cannot recall, i cannot lock my tank and i cannot kick them out either

^ this in a nut shell, well said.

Ask me in 30 days bob, once more people spec into advanced and proto AV it will be easier to judge. One thing I noticed is that shield tanks seem more sluggish from a dead stop.