those stats have been of sisi test servers for how many weeks u don't think they would have caught tht error. they even said it needed to be fixed in under bugs.

Oh I didn't realize how beyond help you were. Carry on.

Missiles still don't go where you aim and have no splash range at all. Good luck fighting another vehicle that is moving with missiles.

Armor core upgrades make armor modules better.
Shield core upgrades make shield modules.... nothing. They are useless except to unlock the modules.

Enforces are a downgrade in EVERYWAY. (At least for Gunnlogi/Falchion don't know about the armor variant)

Idiot

If i could link my thread i would but it gives me errors

Go search

'CCP why the vehicle PG stealth nerf?'

CCP has replied with what the skills should be, we have lost PG our tanks are all ****** up and the armor tank suffers worse because it loses a low slot to a mandatory PG slot

yeah the ADS is the fastest dropship and the most maneuverable, downside is you have this constant fight against temptation to go kill things when you know you should play things safe and to top that off the lowest HP as well.

Straight bollocks, everything was defo diff last build and everyone had access to engineering in general so thats out the window

Im wasting my time

well later since u think tanks r so bad. but yet have no reason other than i don't have 25% boost to powergrid. i remember when tanks didn't even have tht skill. XD

No because it was just engineering which effected both and lots of build back tanks were alot stronger in everything

******* brick wall

yeah well av got a nerf so wat. ur mad cause u can't make as good of a tank as before. but before av hurt a lot more. so u get less health and the things tht hurt u do less damage.

Reward > Risk reward is an epic flight and some kills.

AV got a nerf lolno

Plz explain that one

yeah, their expensive though, my oython fit comes in about 1.7 million isk, 3 proto turrets and a 700k isk base price really kick up the price. actually, i'm going to downgrade the side turrets, its not like i need them used or anything.

prehaps they shoot faster i havn't tested the range. have u tried scout lavs r they any good? but rails def do less damage. 2.5k proto compressed 2 damage mods.

I don't know about the scout. Right now I just run people over with it. I have 1200 in shields and 2k in armor. As soon as they fix the reppers the logi LAV will be very valuable in matches.

Please let us know on the rail gun turrets. It just seems that the rails have scary range.

Core skills are shafting us where as the core skills for the dropsuits are excatly the same, why the bias to dropsuits?

All large turrets have no elevation now to go with no depression, this kills off the railgun

Missiles are more useful but still crap, small missiles rock

Some mods require dropsuit skills

Hacked AV nades require no skills to use, everyone has them and spams them

FG/SL still hurt just as much

Shield and armor still have massive differences

Armor get nerfed because of less PG so you get shafted for fits

EDIT: Enforcer tanks are shite milita versions

EDIT 2: Recall is good but if a blueberry is in it i cannot recall, i cannot lock my tank and i cannot kick them out either

^ this in a nut shell, well said.

Ask me in 30 days bob, once more people spec into advanced and proto AV it will be easier to judge. One thing I noticed is that shield tanks seem more sluggish from a dead stop.