DUST Search - Aaaaand I was right all along

mollerz wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

mollerz wrote:

if you didn't care you wouldn't be here, no?

You have an avenue to help the devs build up the game.

but keep crying. It is so much more productive right? Or is it that it's more cathartic to come on here and *****?

There is no doubt hit detection is way better.

There aren't many ways to communicate with CCP than to *****, whine and moan.
Cough Jita Uprisings Cough
I can contact two CPM members, and they both tell me that CCP doesn't really lets them communicate.
They're just talking with marketing people, not the devs.

That's not true. I see devs come in here and ask pointed Qs all the time.

You fell into a mental trap here. Somehow you didn't get something, and now it is ok to whine and ***** for it.

Let me give you a pro tip. Whining and bitching only work with your mom. When you were little. And that might be the only time in your life where it is actually appropriate. Adults who do that in the business world are commonly found at the bottom of any corporate hierarchy.

If you want to be successful in anything- keep your eye on the goal and work towards it. Why hose your goal by turning off everyone to you? That is all whining and bitching accomplishes... so...?

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Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 911	Posted - 2013.05.07 16:28:00 - [1] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70782 You thought I was wrong? Can you tell me with a serious face that Dust 514 is ready for release? Do you honestly think it won't be hammered down by reviews? You told me yes back then, now that we're playing it, most of the people I know say no. The bulid + Release are rushed to meet a deadline, 5/14. All to have a "cool" date. Like Skyrim that had 11.11.11, but was buggy as hell at release. The build has soooo many problems that if even one QA guy would sit and try it out he could point them out.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 273	Posted - 2013.05.07 16:30:00 - [2] - Quote I'm not waiting another 6 months for another content patch, we just didn't get enough content in this one!
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 911	Posted - 2013.05.07 16:32:00 - [3] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: I'm not waiting another 6 months for another content patch, we just didn't get enough content in this one! Content isn't the issue. The issue is that CCP broke the game. Aiming sucks. Hit detection is worse. Aim assist doesn't work properly. M/K support doesn't work properly. All weapons have stupid low ranges. Armor tanking isn't viable at all even though CCP said it would be for Uprising. Frame rate is still terribad. Balancing in general is still terrible. And the list goes on and on. Is this really what you want to release with CCP? ^
METR0 THE DESTR0YER Imperfects Negative-Feedback 104	Posted - 2013.05.07 16:57:00 - [4] - Quote Shut up and leave then. Bye bye.
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 3	Posted - 2013.05.07 16:58:00 - [5] - Quote Adapt or Die
Rossiya diya Trolley Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.05.07 16:59:00 - [6] - Quote Solid fucks his sister.
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 63	Posted - 2013.05.07 16:59:00 - [7] - Quote QQ
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 911	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:01:00 - [8] - Quote lol fanboys. If you can't see how CCP is destroying their own game, then you're either blind or like being fed ****.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 197	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:02:00 - [9] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: QQ Is it really that hard for you fanbois to accept that CCP can make mistakes?
Rossiya diya Trolley Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:05:00 - [10] - Quote The game survives off fanboys. That's how they create profit. P.C gamers are used to the formula of time>skill. Console gamers have jobs and sex.

mollerz s1ck3r Corp 196	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:07:00 - [11] - Quote if you didn't care you wouldn't be here, no? You have an avenue to help the devs build up the game. but keep crying. It is so much more productive right? Or is it that it's more cathartic to come on here and *****? There is no doubt hit detection is way better.
Rossiya diya Trolley Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:09:00 - [12] - Quote Bitching shows the issue. Giving suggestions that have to filter through to a dev that gives a rats ass is ********, tedious, and solves nothing.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 197	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:11:00 - [13] - Quote mollerz wrote: There is no doubt hit detection is way better. To be fair, it's hard to tell with this terribad aiming, but yeah, it improved a little.
Helper Friendly Planetary Response Organization 5	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:12:00 - [14] - Quote There are a lot of issues. A patch is a must before launch. There are high regarded game reviewers that if they get this game in its current condition will destroy DUST 514, and CCP with reviews in all your favorite mags like Game informer, playstation mag, etc. However fixing things should be the priority and feedback helps do that. I do feel it was a little rushed but that's to be expected, I would rather push the release date and bring a quality first gen game to market than a severely bugged game at launch with patch promises.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 914	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:16:00 - [15] - Quote mollerz wrote: if you didn't care you wouldn't be here, no? You have an avenue to help the devs build up the game. but keep crying. It is so much more productive right? Or is it that it's more cathartic to come on here and ***? There is no doubt hit detection is way better. There aren't many ways to communicate with CCP than to ***, whine and moan. Cough Jita Uprisings Cough I can contact two CPM members, and they both tell me that CCP doesn't really lets them communicate. They're just talking with marketing people, not the devs.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 246	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:18:00 - [16] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: I'm not waiting another 6 months for another content patch, we just didn't get enough content in this one! Content isn't the issue. The issue is that CCP broke the game. Aiming sucks. Hit detection is worse. Aim assist doesn't work properly. M/K support doesn't work properly. All weapons have stupid low ranges. Armor tanking isn't viable at all even though CCP said it would be for Uprising. Frame rate is still terribad. Balancing in general is still terrible. And the list goes on and on. Is this really what you want to release with CCP? ^ I said these very things many moons ago and was greeted by the same muelling cabbages telling me that everything is perfect. If I had a penny for every time some nuthugger typed "it's a BETA" as a reply, I'd be able to buy a couple of sandwiches.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 197	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:24:00 - [17] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: mollerz wrote: if you didn't care you wouldn't be here, no? You have an avenue to help the devs build up the game. but keep crying. It is so much more productive right? Or is it that it's more cathartic to come on here and ***? There is no doubt hit detection is way better. There aren't many ways to communicate with CCP than to *, whine and moan. Cough Jita Uprisings Cough I can contact two CPM members, and they both tell me that CCP doesn't really lets them communicate. They're just talking with marketing people, not the devs. That's not true. I see devs come in here and ask pointed Qs all the time. You fell into a mental trap here. Somehow you didn't get something, and now it is ok to whine and *** for it. Let me give you a pro tip. Whining and bitching only work with your mom. When you were little. And that might be the only time in your life where it is actually appropriate. Adults who do that in the business world are commonly found at the bottom of any corporate hierarchy. If you want to be successful in anything- keep your eye on the goal and work towards it. Why hose your goal by turning off everyone to you? That is all whining and bitching accomplishes... so...?
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 118	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:32:00 - [18] - Quote NeoWraith Acedia wrote: Kiro Justice wrote: QQ Is it really that hard for you fanbois to accept that CCP can make mistakes? There are some flaws, people aren't saying there aren't. But the game is hardly "unplayable." It was pretty bad before when you'd get killed in 1 second by a Viziam with 3 or 4 complex damage mods from sniper rifle range. Also, armor tanking isn't completely boned, my squad has been running some plated Gallente armor suits with a logi dude running a proto rep tool, and its funny as **** trying to watch someone take that on. If I get cocky and try 3v1, I'm still going down, so it's not horribly OP. Well, I'm using the Basic Assault suit, I'm not sure what would happen if I was going Proto...
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 917	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:41:00 - [19] - Quote mollerz wrote: Cat Merc wrote: mollerz wrote: if you didn't care you wouldn't be here, no? You have an avenue to help the devs build up the game. but keep crying. It is so much more productive right? Or is it that it's more cathartic to come on here and ***? There is no doubt hit detection is way better. There aren't many ways to communicate with CCP than to *, whine and moan. Cough Jita Uprisings Cough I can contact two CPM members, and they both tell me that CCP doesn't really lets them communicate. They're just talking with marketing people, not the devs. That's not true. I see devs come in here and ask pointed Qs all the time. You fell into a mental trap here. Somehow you didn't get something, and now it is ok to whine and *** for it. Let me give you a pro tip. Whining and bitching only work with your mom. When you were little. And that might be the only time in your life where it is actually appropriate. Adults who do that in the business world are commonly found at the bottom of any corporate hierarchy. If you want to be successful in anything- keep your eye on the goal and work towards it. Why hose your goal by turning off everyone to you? That is all whining and bitching accomplishes... so...? And then you come to the world of gaming, where the only way to do anything is to talk with your wallet and scream very loudly and clearly what is wrong. And its very true, the devs aren't really talking, they have things that marketing people allow them to say and don't allow. Even the CPM doesn't have the ability to directly speak with developers without being bogged down with marketing people not to say this or that.
McFurious BetaMax. CRONOS. 73	Posted - 2013.05.07 17:55:00 - [20] - Quote I figured there would be issues with this build so I'm just gonna wait and see. It's definitely not ready for release at this time. We'll probably see fixes and changes within a couple weeks or perhaps sooner if they still plan on releasing next week. I'd push it back if I were them though.

Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 19	Posted - 2013.05.07 18:00:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: [quote=Knight SoIaire] Aim assist doesn't work properly. ^ ...... Aim assist OFF, should never be on, nor an option
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 922	Posted - 2013.05.07 18:49:00 - [22] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Cat Merc wrote: [quote=Knight SoIaire] Aim assist doesn't work properly. ^ ...... Aim assist OFF, should never be on, nor an option A. Its a console shooter, aim assist is standard, you just can't get proper precision without it. B. Then K/M should not be a option.


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