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EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.07 13:39:00 - [1] - Quote its like the flashy e3 build all over again, at least in that build you could shoot people from more than 10 feet away.
Yay Adski Imperfects Negative-Feedback 224	Posted - 2013.05.07 13:40:00 - [2] - Quote That and E3 build was more fun
Re-FLeX Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 205	Posted - 2013.05.07 13:41:00 - [3] - Quote Whats the use of longest kill statistic at the end screen if you can't render people beyond ~300 meters?
Some Alaskan DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.05.07 13:44:00 - [4] - Quote I'm not having this problem.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 377	Posted - 2013.05.07 13:53:00 - [5] - Quote Re-FLeX wrote: Whats the use of longest kill statistic at the end screen if you can't render people beyond ~300 meters? I thought longest kill was the number of seconds between first bullet and last? Was I thinking all wrong and this actually measures range to target?

EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:24:00 - [6] - Quote Some Alaskan wrote: I'm not having this problem. that's because they are not rendered. its ok i forgive your noobery
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:26:00 - [7] - Quote FFFFFFFFF CCP why freakin WHY!!!!!
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 863	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:29:00 - [8] - Quote :[ they are screwing things up... When I kill people I get the +50 but they can be seen standing for a split second after and it confuses me because I twitch back to them instead of there buddy standing next to them...
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1400	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:30:00 - [9] - Quote Some Alaskan wrote: I'm not having this problem. I haven't seen this problem in any of the streams I've been following, and I follow 7 of them.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 208	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:30:00 - [10] - Quote ChribbaX wrote: Re-FLeX wrote: Whats the use of longest kill statistic at the end screen if you can't render people beyond ~300 meters? I thought longest kill was the number of seconds between first bullet and last? Was I thinking all wrong and this actually measures range to target? Yes, you were wrong. Though, you are correct now. This is what is important

Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 358	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:31:00 - [11] - Quote Another one of these threads?
Turan chiron Raymond James Corp 3	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:33:00 - [12] - Quote Anyone else notice that people climbing ladders aren't animated? They just slide up the ladder
Specter RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 75	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:34:00 - [13] - Quote Polish Hammer wrote: Another one of these threads? More like more of these threads. I dont see the reason that should bother anyone other than snipers. I understand the issue with being secretive but most action doesnt even happen until ~75m anyways. Plus my Forge Gun cant fire beyond 300m so I can't find the issue. (If the 300m is max render distance that is) But still I understand how some people feel about it.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:39:00 - [14] - Quote I could care less about ladder animations(case in point halflife). Its just so halfassed like ccp wants better frames and less ppl rendered so they tailor the guns to only hit ppl when your right ontop of them. What the hell man!!!! like we all know you are using dated technology, thats fine. Just for the love of all that is good and holy make the game a shooter, you know where you shoot people! ppl need to be rendered and you need to have the range to hit them. lore and crap like that are infinitely dumb when you have a sniper rifle that is a miniature rail gun and like right before it hits the un-rendered invisible man the shot disappears in a black hole and the sniper shot disappears.
Sylwester Dziewiecki BetaMax. CRONOS. 56	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:42:00 - [15] - Quote I think it's bug because some people are visible and some are not. Maybe it's because specific suit?
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 117	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:45:00 - [16] - Quote Cant help but notice I saw IMPSwarm, Imperfects Internal Error looking like a rather mediocre corp last night in the games I saw them in (still upper portion of the list, but any squad with 6 decent folks would be tops) with some GASP negative k/d, and I see a ton of IMP QQ threads about the new build. Pub stomping not quite as easy when they can shoot back?
Charlotte O'Dell Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 298	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:45:00 - [17] - Quote +1
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:48:00 - [18] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: Cant help but notice I saw IMPSwarm, Imperfects Internal Error looking like a rather mediocre corp last night in the games I saw them in (still upper portion of the list, but any squad with 6 decent folks would be tops) with some GASP negative k/d, and I see a ton of IMP QQ threads about the new build. Pub stomping not quite as easy when they can shoot back? yo man, i didn't have a problem at all, and crap, could care less about k/d or whatever. You surely cannot like the fact that ccp limited the draw distance of enemies and made all guns have such limited ranges you have to be right next to them to hit them? surely you cannot support that.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:50:00 - [19] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: I think it's bug because some people are visible and some are not. Maybe it's because specific suit? the farther away you are the less people you will see, they will be there but they are not rendered.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 118	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:51:00 - [20] - Quote To be honest, your actual OP is fine, if its true, good bug report. Its the other IMP dudes coming in with stuff like "That and E3 build was more fun Lol" that I was referring to. Seems like every thread I go in, I see that kinda random negativity. The limited ranges of guns is a bit debatable. But then again I spent last night using the Tact AR, which felt fine. I think everyone needs to chill on the range issue till we see how the Scrambler Rifle plays out. EDIT: Its also sad if they cant handle rendering 32 folks. I could see issues like this in a completely open world game like PS2 where you could have hundreds or thousands, but 32?

EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:56:00 - [21] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: To be honest, your actual OP is fine, if its true, good bug report. Its the other IMP dudes coming in with stuff like "That and E3 build was more fun Lol" that I was referring to. Seems like every thread I go in, I see that kinda random negativity. The limited ranges of guns is a bit debatable. But then again I spent last night using the Tact AR, which felt fine. I think everyone needs to chill on the range issue till we see how the Scrambler Rifle plays out. EDIT: Its also sad if they cant handle rendering 32 folks. I could see issues like this in a completely open world game like PS2 where you could have hundreds or thousands, but 32? I reported it,
Drogan Reeth Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 43	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:56:00 - [22] - Quote Some Alaskan wrote: I'm not having this problem. LOL... you're not having a problem with people not rendering? How do you know they don't render if they don't render.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 118	Posted - 2013.05.07 20:58:00 - [23] - Quote Cool. Man, EnIgMa99, you made me feel bad for my little bit of trolling. This forum trolling thing isnt for me! Just curious, how did you confirm that the players were indeed there? Some squad mates see them, others not?
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 445	Posted - 2013.05.07 21:02:00 - [24] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: Cant help but notice I saw IMPSwarm, Imperfects Internal Error looking like a rather mediocre corp last night in the games I saw them in (still upper portion of the list, but any squad with 6 decent folks would be tops) with some GASP negative k/d, and I see a ton of IMP QQ threads about the new build. Pub stomping not quite as easy when they can shoot back? A: a good portion of folks are running starter gear to get a feel for things and getting run over by Duvolle B: don't let your hatred/dislike for IMP/IE/Negative Feedback cloud your judgement of a thread/post overall value...a lot of them know what they are talking about when it comes to FPS mechanics...they just lack likability and PR skills.
Deadeye Dic Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2013.05.07 21:04:00 - [25] - Quote I wasn't having any issues early on, but then I started getting graphic artifacts at the bottom of the screen, they kind of looked like flames from the Old Windows Media Player Visualizations. Once I started getting those, then disappearing players started to happen. It was real strange and random. Sometimes, they would just disappear as they ran off (Looking through a sniper scope), then other times when I wasn't using my sniper scope I couldn't see anyone further than probably 200M, not even the caret above teammates heads. But if I zoomed in, I could see the caret, but no player. In two matches I even had an issue where the caet and Shield/Armor bars appeared to be "in the ground", then when they got closer the player would just appear. It's just been one strange graphics glitch after another. Very weird stuff.
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 22	Posted - 2013.05.07 21:07:00 - [26] - Quote Re-FLeX wrote: Whats the use of longest kill statistic at the end screen if you can't render people beyond ~300 meters? I had a 500m+ kill listed last night....
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 22	Posted - 2013.05.07 21:08:00 - [27] - Quote Drogan Reeth wrote: Some Alaskan wrote: I'm not having this problem. LOL... you're not having a problem with people not rendering? How do you know they don't render if they don't render. rendception?
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 118	Posted - 2013.05.07 21:10:00 - [28] - Quote I saw one where two squad mates were in an LAV, and they had green markers following them a good 10-20M behind them. then when they got out the markers caught up. That's about it for strangeness. I'll look for more draw distance issues, should be easy to spot since im a coward and fight at range with the tact.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.08 12:13:00 - [29] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: Cool. Man, EnIgMa99, you made me feel bad for my little bit of trolling. This forum trolling thing isnt for me! Just curious, how did you confirm that the players were indeed there? Some squad mates see them, others not? You can see people phase in and out like phantoms at certain distances. Yeah, not all of imperfects are like that just most of us most of the time :P
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.08 12:22:00 - [30] - Quote this is where i reported it: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=761090#post761090 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=762164#post762164

semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 421	Posted - 2013.05.08 13:03:00 - [31] - Quote Yea Enigma I can confirm seeing this last night. On the new manus peak I could not see enemies that were in the open on C when I was at B. It was kinda funny actually....in a sad sort of way.
JX1 Goonfeet 6	Posted - 2013.05.08 13:23:00 - [32] - Quote I got lucky and made a 450+ meter headshot with a sniper rifle on a model that actually rendered, once. Could see maybe twelve pixels total every frame. Minutes before that I struggled shooting at red chevrons of invisible matter in an open flat field from 100 to 330 meters away. My theory based on knowledge of the engine is that the map files carry stuff from the old versions with them since sometimes I see people 300m (or other distance value) away when there's LOS for a straight shot, be it a turret zoom or a sniper rifle or a naked eye, and sometimes I don't. Perfectly clear line of sight, sometimes I see my friendlies running in circles around A, but never the enemies. Until I get like in assault-rifle range.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.08 13:26:00 - [33] - Quote JX1 wrote: I got lucky and made a 450+ meter headshot with a sniper rifle on a model that actually rendered, once. Could see maybe twelve pixels total every frame. Minutes before that I struggled shooting at red chevrons of invisible matter in an open flat field from 100 to 330 meters away. My theory based on knowledge of the engine is that the map files carry stuff from the old versions with them since sometimes I see people 300m (or other distance value) away when there's LOS for a straight shot, be it a turret zoom or a sniper rifle or a naked eye, and sometimes I don't. Perfectly clear line of sight, sometimes I see my friendlies running in circles around A, but never the enemies. Until I get like in assault-rifle range. I am glad other people are bringing this to light and im not the only one butthurt
Drommy Hood Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 272	Posted - 2013.05.08 13:29:00 - [34] - Quote this is completely infuriating. I was shooting at a DerpShip from a missile launcher, and it 'cloaked' as it reached a certain range (ie it went transparent in the same style as the rdv's) 1s i was like CLOAKIN!!!!!!!!!!!! Then i realized this was a lame draw distance disappearance. Still looks cool when it happens, infuriating when your shooting at it though!!!!!!! Shoddy draw distance make me fell like im playing a game pc game from 10 years ago. Im enjoying this build, but such a poor draw distance is my first complaint
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 263	Posted - 2013.05.08 14:23:00 - [35] - Quote Drommy Hood wrote: this is completely infuriating. I was shooting at a DerpShip from a missile launcher, and it 'cloaked' as it reached a certain range (ie it went transparent in the same style as the rdv's) 1s i was like CLOAKIN!!!!!!!!!!!! Then i realized this was a lame draw distance disappearance. Still looks cool when it happens, infuriating when your shooting at it though!!!!!!! Shoddy draw distance make me fell like im playing a game pc game from 10 years ago. Im enjoying this build, but such a poor draw distance is my first complaint +1
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 268	Posted - 2013.05.08 16:26:00 - [36] - Quote rage bump
one 1986 Regime Of Shadow Marines 1	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:02:00 - [37] - Quote Same thing here too one min I see them then gone can see the marker sum of the time but not the player nice to know it's not juts me
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 72	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:06:00 - [38] - Quote Oddly enough, it seems that 94% of the QQ and whining I see is from Negative Feedback fools that have to relearn the game, and can no longer protostomp because of it. Hm, what a shame.
Protoman Is God Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 157	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:09:00 - [39] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: Oddly enough, it seems that 94% of the QQ and whining I see is from Negative Feedback fools that have to relearn the game, and can no longer protostomp because of it. Hm, what a shame. painting a big target on your back for the 14th isn't a good idea.
Nstomper The Sangheli 362	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:10:00 - [40] - Quote Imp qq thread #70

Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 323	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:13:00 - [41] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: :[ they are screwing things up... When I kill people I get the +50 but they can be seen standing for a split second after and it confuses me because I twitch back to them instead of there buddy standing next to them... yes, i have this too! i think this is latency? idk cause there is more little stuff like this that just screams latency to me i also see random red dots on my map that are not there. or even see a red name suit run by me and there is no one there... its just the game acting wonky. these new maps also have old map parts still around and cause me to get stuck more often when moving... ugh... i thought this game was getting polished? not just graphical... maps need polished (smooth, we have shiny now) we just need smooth overall... wtf is up with the damn input lag for switching weapons and grenades? its different wait times every time i try to switch ... wtf
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 122	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:13:00 - [42] - Quote Yeah we already had the NE bashing discussion in this thread. A lot of the complaining does seem to be coming from their camp, but this thread isnt one of them. Also not sure if this is related bug or not: But yesterday I saw a red dot on my radar, rad icon on my map, even had the player name. But nobody was there. Very strange.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 275	Posted - 2013.05.08 20:24:00 - [43] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: Oddly enough, it seems that 94% of the QQ and whining I see is from Negative Feedback fools that have to relearn the game, and can no longer protostomp because of it. Hm, what a shame. seriously you wont see me in the dropship as i wail on you, I wont even render, and you want this?
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 281	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:05:00 - [44] - Quote continued rage bump
ORI Clone 2731 ORI Ground Forces 4	Posted - 2013.05.10 08:03:00 - [45] - Quote And CCP continues what skyrim started with the crappy "good graphics circle" around the player. When are we as gamers going to stop supporting duct tape solutions instead of just demanding proper products?
Herper Derp DUST University Ivy League 74	Posted - 2013.05.10 10:42:00 - [46] - Quote Turan chiron wrote: Anyone else notice that people climbing ladders aren't animated? They just slide up the ladder I noticed this last night... made me chuckle
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 302	Posted - 2013.05.10 15:15:00 - [47] - Quote ORI Clone 2731 wrote: And CCP continues what skyrim started with the crappy "good graphics circle" around the player. When are we as gamers going to stop supporting duct tape solutions instead of just demanding proper products? this
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 302	Posted - 2013.05.13 01:37:00 - [48] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=788568#post788568 this junk needs to work. halo hosts 16v16 battles with none of this rubbish time for dust to do it too. I would rather have solid gameplay then slightly better shadows and light flares

CCP LaFerrari C C P C C P Alliance 9	Posted - 2013.05.13 07:06:00 - [49] - Quote Shall we consider merging the thread?: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74777&find=unread It'll be easier for us to monitor the feedback, etc

Otoky DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement 68	Posted - 2013.05.13 07:26:00 - [50] - Quote CCP LaFerrari wrote: Shall we consider merging the thread?: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74777&find=unread It'll be easier for us to monitor the feedback, etc Yep, good idea.

EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 307	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:36:00 - [51] - Quote Bump, I just got sniped at by someone invisible when I was in a dropship


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