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Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:03:00 -
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Thoughts so far? Worth the SP? Do u get points from using it? Have you suffered from the other team using it? Wondering if this is something a brand new player could equip to immediately be useful. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
105
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:06:00 -
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I've spec'd into it, seems effective although there may be some flaws with it as during 1 or 2 matches I was getting no blips at all.
Apart from that, very effective, no doubt... but I don't thing there are any WP gains from it  |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
408
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:08:00 -
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Why would you get points for using it?
Seriously it is meant to help you get points by killing the Red Berries.
Which is for making their insides their outsides as well as Red Berry Jam.  |
Bad Heal
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:09:00 -
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I can't seem to get it to work, any tips? I've even stood right next to a red dot and got the same margin of error screen |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
617
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:10:00 -
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Just got the basic AS, and if nothing else, my squad loves it when I light up a whole blob of red dots for an orbital strike. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
425
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:11:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Why would you get points for using it? Seriously it is meant to help you get points by killing the Red Berries. Which is for making their insides their outsides as well as Red Berry Jam.
It would be yet another support role (like DS piloting) that penalizes people for playing. By not getting WP they wouldn't be getting paid as much as others. |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:13:00 -
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Mild usage benefits when running with a blob of electronically-disadvantaged grunts, in that you can hang back behind them and scan behind walls and objects to show them where to point their barrels next. Quite difficult to use solo due to slow animations for getting out and putting away, unless you skill into one of the scanners that lets the dot linger for a good while.
It'll definitely have a use in the 48+ matches where it's just two fronts of expendables grinding into each other, but with very little benefit to the end user. |
Spy Mouse
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:14:00 -
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"You have been scanned" shows up on the screen when somebody scans you with it. That kind of makes it less useful for sneaking up on people. |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:20:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:"You have been scanned" shows up on the screen when somebody scans you with it. That kind of makes it less useful for sneaking up on people.
WHAT |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
69
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:20:00 -
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I put a few points into it. I've managed to save some blueberries and myself from a few ambushes so far.
Not sure it's something I'll carry all the time but it's useful if you're behind your front lines, or changing objectives. |
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Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
220
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:21:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:"You have been scanned" shows up on the screen when somebody scans you with it. That kind of makes it less useful for sneaking up on people.
QFT someone tried sneaking up on me while I was resupplying "you have been scanned" pops up no one infront of me so I turned round and the poor reddot was about 20m away still with his scanner out so I killed him, it was quite handy if he just shot me he probably would have got a kill but the scan message saved my life so yes scanners are worth it.  |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
617
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:35:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:"You have been scanned" shows up on the screen when somebody scans you with it. That kind of makes it less useful for sneaking up on people.
Interesting, I never knew that. So scanners can be used to troll?
Person A:"Oh guys we just got scanned."
Person B:"What?"
Person C: "Oh right I got the message too. Lets get to some cover."
Person B: "... Is this some kind of joke?"
Person C: "Dude, we were scanned, they're coming for us."
Person A: "There! They just scanned us again!"
Person B: "Oh I saw the message! Sorry about not believing you guys."
A minute later...
Person B: "Maybe we should go help out the guy at Alpha."
Person C: "Don't, can't you see they keep scanning us? They're waiting for us to make a move. I bet they've got snipers watching."
Person A: "Good thinking, C. Lets just wait here."
2 minutes later...
Person B: "Guys... we're losing..."
Person C: "Alright then, why don't you go out and get yourself killed then, huh? They've been scanning every 10 seconds, they havent attacked because they know we have the upper hand in position."
Person A: "C's right, B. It's not worth the risk."
Person B: "But I'm looking at the map now, and it's 4v4, and 3 of the redberries are killing our lone blueberry up at Delta!"
Person C: "Are you telling me... there's only one person with a scanner up there?"
Person A: "KITTEN!" |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
221
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:40:00 -
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Damn someone has figued out my tactic I tried the scanner out myself after I killed a poor guy using it and I just kept scanning a squad who were attacking B on manus peak they had a DU behind a building so I just kept scanning them and everytime I did they retreated back behind the building lol it was hiliarious. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
872
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:43:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Spy Mouse wrote:"You have been scanned" shows up on the screen when somebody scans you with it. That kind of makes it less useful for sneaking up on people. Interesting, I never knew that. So scanners can be used to troll? Person A:"Oh guys we just got scanned." ... Person C: "Are you telling me... there's only one person with a scanner up there?" Person A: "KITTEN!"
Hehe...
Now I might just have to get one.  |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
872
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:44:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:Why would you get points for using it? Seriously it is meant to help you get points by killing the Red Berries. Which is for making their insides their outsides as well as Red Berry Jam. It would be yet another support role (like DS piloting) that penalizes people for playing. By not getting WP they wouldn't be getting paid as much as others.
In one of the Fanfest talks they said that there would be WP for scanning (or maybe it was scanning within X seconds of a kill).
I can't remember the details or whether it was Soon or SOON(tm), but I definitely remember it being mentioned. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
426
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Posted - 2013.05.07 13:46:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:Why would you get points for using it? Seriously it is meant to help you get points by killing the Red Berries. Which is for making their insides their outsides as well as Red Berry Jam. It would be yet another support role (like DS piloting) that penalizes people for playing. By not getting WP they wouldn't be getting paid as much as others. In one of the Fanfest talks they said that there would be WP for scanning (or maybe it was scanning within X seconds of a kill). I can't remember the details or whether it was Soon or SOON(tm), but I definitely remember it being mentioned.
Yeah I knew I wasn't crazy Vaerana |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
65
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Posted - 2013.05.07 13:55:00 -
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As a scout this is another scan thread I don't endorse.  |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
428
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:37:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:As a scout this is another scan thread I don't endorse.
I think with just 2 levels or so into dampening and a level or two into your specialized suits the standard scanners shouldn't pick you guys up. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:12:00 -
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As a nova knifer it's awesome
Also, as a speedy Minmatar scout I don't care if people pick me up on scanner...by the time they do I'm already a football field away from where I showed up... |
Spy Mouse
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:16:00 -
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You won't be able to scan light frame dropsuits with the standard scanner but the advanced scanner should be able to scan all but scouts fitted for stealth with multiple or high level profile dampeners. |
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kanders
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:20:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Why would you get points for using it? Seriously it is meant to help you get points by killing the Red Berries. Which is for making their insides their outsides as well as Red Berry Jam.
It's also to help your teammates as well, which you wouldn't get credit for. You get WP for supplying your team with ammunition or repairs, it seems reasonable enough that you could also get WP for supplying them with information. I'd imagine a fairly low level, like 1WP per person lit up by the scanner with a cap of 25-50WP/min, would be reasonable while also rewarding effective scanner use. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1246
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:20:00 -
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CCP did state that the active scanner gave away its presence.
As a DS pilot I'd advise you not to hold your breath on the WP's though. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
213
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:28:00 -
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I like the scanner and have used it too pretty good effect both in a squad and out but can't understand why it should give away that you have been scanned. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2747
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:44:00 -
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I haven't used it, but I haven't heard of anyone getting the promised WP bonus for using it either.
What I expect is that there SHOULD be an Assist if a still-lit target dies. Incentive to keep scanning when you're in a well-concealed position and there are friendlies on the way in, and incentive to skill into the high-tier scanners with a longer scan duration. |
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