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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:16:00 -
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Quote:<[CCP]Wolfman>: when it comes to the HMG, we're just going to watch the numbers and see how it performs |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:17:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Quote:<[CCP]Wolfman>: when it comes to the HMG, we're just going to watch the numbers and see how it performs ........... |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:19:00 -
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Only number he is going to watch soon is how many people walk away from this game. Tbqh if I wasnt a CEO I would be gone... I'm playing for the friends and realationships I've made I do not enjoy dust anymore. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:21:00 -
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They don't need to watch the numbers, I can tell them how it preforms right now.
**** poor. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:21:00 -
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As we also should instead of qq. Let the metagame establish for baby jesus sake. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:22:00 -
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They probably just watch HMG sales and HMG kills, dk what else they could track. If they are indeed watching they should see the problem in no time.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:23:00 -
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I've seen HMGs fail hard enough that I can comfortably say the numbers will agree with the "over-nerfed" calls we're already giving. CCP are going to see that we're right, and they'll fix it. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:25:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Quote:<[CCP]Wolfman>: when it comes to the HMG, we're just going to watch the numbers and see how it performs Quote:<[CCP]Wolfman>: we will be watching the HMG stats to see how things perform. Then we'll make a decision on whether or not to make any further tweaks. UPDATED* So at least there's hope for a hotfix on HMG.
Wonder what the numbers mean when they realize allot less people using it |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:31:00 -
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Regardless - CCP has over a YEAR OF HMG DATA. Why they choose to over-shoot a nerf then "LOOK AT" sorta pisses me off. It's very clear heavies aren't given two ***** of a coin from CCP.
Wolfman is basically saying the opinions expressed on the HMG here is irrelevant and the numbers will do the talking - because the numbers didn't lead us to this **** situation - right? |
Hawkings Greenback
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:38:00 -
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I think the removal of sharpshooter should have been more than enough. |
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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:42:00 -
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"Numbers"... how have ARs survived this long again? Though this does make me fear for the future of the logi...
Or does he mean number of tears from the poor fatties? |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens EoN.
476
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:58:00 -
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They track all of the market gear sold, they had a Dev blog on gear sales a few months ago. I think it's how they justify the alterations. Well we sold 5 tac rifles since january 21st, so 50% damage boost. Oh we only want HMG's to be 10% of weapon sales, nerf nerf nerf.
Someone at CCP worked hard on the HMG, when nobody buys it he will get depressed and they will buff it again so it sells and he can be happy.
^ This is my understanding of video game development |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
42
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:00:00 -
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Good to hear they are watching it closely.
CAN THEY PLEASE DO THE SAME THING FOR MASS DRIVERS? |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
388
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:01:00 -
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I am mowing them peoples down with my assault HMG no probs. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:06:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:I am mowing them peoples down with my assault HMG no probs. Video or it didn't happen. |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
35
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:06:00 -
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keep the range nerf, that's fine. crouch and ADS for hmgs last build was retardedly powerful but for god's sake, why the damage nerf? |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:06:00 -
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NIIKIA wrote:Only number he is going to watch soon is how many people walk away from this game. Tbqh if I wasnt a CEO I would be gone... I'm playing for the friends and realationships I've made I do not enjoy dust anymore.
agreed..love my corp but the HMG is broken..no fuccckin range or damage..fucccckin joke |
Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers EoN.
42
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:07:00 -
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Hawkings Greenback wrote:I think the removal of sharpshooter should have been more than enough. Pretty obvious to anyone who doesn't actually have a say in these matters.
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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
533
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:08:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:They track all of the market gear sold, they had a Dev blog on gear sales a few months ago. I think it's how they justify the alterations. Well we sold 5 tac rifles since january 21st, so 50% damage boost. Oh we only want HMG's to be 10% of weapon sales, nerf nerf nerf. Someone at CCP worked hard on the HMG, when nobody buys it he will get depressed and they will buff it again so it sells and he can be happy. ^ This is my understanding of video game development Last part actually made me lol. +1 |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
182
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:08:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:keep the range nerf, that's fine. crouch and ADS for hmgs last build was retardedly powerful but for god's sake, why the damage nerf? 15m is not fine man, at least 25-30 or something! |
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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
182
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:09:00 -
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Why don't you guys just boycott HMGs and use ARs? |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:10:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Why don't you guys just boycott HMGs and use ARs?
all my fuckin skills went to HMG not AR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
lowratehitman
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
534
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:10:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Quote:<[CCP]Wolfman>: when it comes to the HMG, we're just going to watch the numbers and see how it performs Quote:<[CCP]Wolfman>: we will be watching the HMG stats to see how things perform. Then we'll make a decision on whether or not to make any further tweaks. UPDATED* So at least there's hope for a hotfix on HMG.
hey man, do me a favor... when you are on IRC with all the cool CCP devs getting to ask them fancy questions, please ask them to aim down the sights of the LR and be proficent with it |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
35
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:16:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote: 15m is not fine man, at least 25-30 or something!
if it shuts the whiners up i don't really care. i never engage things beyond 15m anyway. but if you get within my 15 meter death zone god have mercy on your scrubby little soul
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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
182
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:18:00 -
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iLLMaTiC619 wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Why don't you guys just boycott HMGs and use ARs? all my fuckin skills went to HMG not AR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Militia AR is still better... |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:20:00 -
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ITT people talk about how understand how balancing works and how ccp is doing it wrong |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:23:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:So at least there's hope for a hotfix on HMG. Down here in the DUST what he is talking about is Another Nerf.
Heads up. Or down. Whatever.
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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:25:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:So at least there's hope for a hotfix on HMG. Down here in the DUST what he is talking about is Another Nerf. Heads up. Or down. Whatever. Up is down |
Drommy Hood
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:27:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:"Numbers"... how have ARs survived this long again? Though this does make me fear for the future of the logi... Or does he mean number of tears from the poor fatties?
They probably look at average number killed per day vs average number of kills per day with that weapon.
Since all the **** poor noobs run round with AR's as getting destroyed by hmg's cos they run into the sweet spot, it looks like they're overpowered.
Truth is though that the people who get awesome k/d ratios will do so with another weapon anyway. |
Imp Smash
On The Brink CRONOS.
79
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:27:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote: 15m is not fine man, at least 25-30 or something!
if it shuts the whiners up i don't really care. i never engage things beyond 15m anyway. but if you get within my 15 meter death zone god have mercy on your scrubby little soul
Well said. Adapt to the weapon. |
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