DUST Search - Do things look kind of...cartoony?

DAMIOS82 wrote:

I'm not sure how it is with other people, but the graphics became 100 times worse on my tv. I have a full HD 1080i 102 cm LCD, Now in Beta i had a full screen, now it only displays on half the screen in the middle, with black bar outlinings. So i have to zoom in with my tv, what makes it even worse. Everything is pixelated, its all fuzzy and hazy, low details, and allthough i like colors, It looks to much Cartoon style. A.k.a borderlands, and i hate that style of game. I personally like realism, not cartoon books/comics. When compared with Eve. Eve looks reall, feels reall and since Dust is an extension to Eve in a way, it should look and feel the same way, just with more colors. But not this style. To me its as if i'm playing a game on the very lowest settings of my Pentium 1 graphics card. Not to mention when using a scoped sniper rifle, the figures on the battlefield look either completely black, at a far distance, or pixels closer by. The only thing that actually looked good was the tank, there you could actually see the graphics and details improved.

I trully hope CCP is making the graphics there top priority, because graphics are half the games worth.

Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 1 post(s)
Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 106	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:18:00 - [1] - Quote This mostly applies to night time battles, but much of the scenery seems to get this strange glowing outline around it. I'm not sure if the sky is glitching or what, but it kind of reminds me of Sly Cooper :P Has anyone else encountered this?
Kane Fyea BetaMax. CRONOS. 152	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:24:00 - [2] - Quote I was thinking it looks a little like borderlands.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 72	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:28:00 - [3] - Quote Unreal engine just wait till its night time and your firing the new av weapon at tanks in the distance that will show you something cool
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 166	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:43:00 - [4] - Quote Yes! The whole thing (in battle) looks VERY cartoony to me. It was much Much MUCH better the other way. Ok you did you did your expirement with the graphics, it didn't work out now change it back. It was wwwaaayyy better the other way. Also what is up with the horribly grainy bullet tracer/laser beam/other weapon effects? Graphicaly, they are extraordinarily grainy and just all around look terrible compared to what I am use to. I don't like this at all
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 190	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:57:00 - [5] - Quote better the other way!? I am having a hard time having to adjust to all the detail that is present. The last build was a blank slate compared to this build. The color might be off a bit, but it still looks WAY better than last build. not even the same ball park.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3719	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:00:00 - [6] - Quote Everything looks great to me aside from some anti aliasing issues with gunfire lines. I like the graphical improvements. What definition tvs are you guys using? do you guys use as HDMI cable? Can you show any pictures of what you're talking about?
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 166	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:04:00 - [7] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Everything looks great to me aside from some anti aliasing issues with gunfire lines. I like the graphical improvements. What definition tvs are you guys using? do you guys use as HDMI cable? Can you show any pictures of what you're talking about? I have a 52 inch plasma connected via HDMI.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 370	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:07:00 - [8] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Everything looks great to me aside from some anti aliasing issues with gunfire lines. I like the graphical improvements. What definition tvs are you guys using? do you guys use as HDMI cable? Can you show any pictures of what you're talking about? Yes, graphics overall are much better. there does seem to be a loss of antialiasing though. I see this in the tracer fire as well as ladders.
Andrea Auroras Forsaken Immortals 8	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:12:00 - [9] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Everything looks great to me aside from some anti aliasing issues with gunfire lines. I like the graphical improvements. What definition tvs are you guys using? do you guys use as HDMI cable? Can you show any pictures of what you're talking about? I'm using an HDtv monitor with 50000:1 Dynamic Contrast and HDMI and although most static things are fine (although not what I was expecting from the screenshots in devblogs), animations with gunfire, rockets, hives, plants etc are all blocky like something outta an 80's arcade game. It's even worse at sniper ranges where dropsuit animations become, as said above, very boarderlands, and the gunfire is just a load of squares.
Centurion mkII SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 41	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:13:00 - [10] - Quote I had the same thought but after playing more today it just looks normal too me now. One thing i dislike is the white lines around crap :/

NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 175	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:15:00 - [11] - Quote Too much yellow!
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 193	Posted - 2013.05.07 08:14:00 - [12] - Quote nanohives get lost when you are in them as well. You used to know when you were in the actual hive, but now the visual of it gets dampended away when you are in it.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1454	Posted - 2013.05.07 08:46:00 - [13] - Quote Got confused first time I went on manus peak, everything looked strange. But the new graphics are growing on me, it actually looks so much getter compared to before.
Sakari Wakuu Kigurosaka Corporation 3	Posted - 2013.05.07 08:54:00 - [14] - Quote The light looks like some kind of night-vision technology :p It has something to it, but I'd love to be able to turn it back to dark somehow. Just for the beautiful looks, or even to detect lights from vehicles etc.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1026	Posted - 2013.05.07 11:17:00 - [15] - Quote A lot of the time it feels very cartoony on the Map, night time is cool though.
Soozu 5o1st 63	Posted - 2013.05.07 11:27:00 - [16] - Quote I can't help but think they had a discussion and said "CARTOON!" Yay! I mean, the character select screen is now a choice of three cartoons right from the get go. Too much yellow to "highlight" information. HDMI cable here. By the way, I can't post anywhere ever again without mentioning my shotgun. I went to level 5 hoping tighter spread would help.... NOPE... No range = 7 million SP toon useless, and using a militia AR for the long haul.
Julius Vindice A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 65	Posted - 2013.05.07 11:29:00 - [17] - Quote The outlines is like VISR from Halo ODST to me, I like it.
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 415	Posted - 2013.05.07 11:31:00 - [18] - Quote The problem is that now everything is way too sharp. It's like when you see really poor CGI in movies and it's too clean cut and sticks out like a sore thumb. All the models need to be way less sharp and a bit dirtier, so there are less clean outlines and shinyness.

CCP Photon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.09 04:11:00 - [19] - Quote I think I will leave it to my Artist colleagues to address your feedback on art style. From a tech perspective, in Uprising we have been moving towards materials that have a more complex and realistic response to lighting - a lot of focus was put on the metallic materials and the terrain materials. CCP Photon

Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 295	Posted - 2013.05.09 04:13:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Photon wrote: I think I will leave it to my Artist colleagues to address your feedback on art style. From a tech perspective, in Uprising we have been moving towards materials that have a more complex and realistic response to lighting - a lot of focus was put on the metallic materials and the terrain materials. CCP Photon Fitting name. I have to say the thing I'm most impressed with is the floodlights on drop ships. It's very dynamic and I hope cherries on the ground can see the illumination of death covering them the way I do.

HOMMANDO Goonfeet 86	Posted - 2013.05.09 04:13:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Photon wrote: From a tech perspective, in Uprising we have been moving towards materials that have a more complex and realistic response to lighting - a lot of focus was put on the metallic materials and the terrain materials. Assault rifles look like they've been dipped in oil when you're in a dark area.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 620	Posted - 2013.05.09 04:28:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Photon wrote: I think I will leave it to my Artist colleagues to address your feedback on art style. From a tech perspective, in Uprising we have been moving towards materials that have a more complex and realistic response to lighting - a lot of focus was put on the metallic materials and the terrain materials. CCP Photon than why does my heavy suit look made out of cloth?
VLIGHT5 Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 71	Posted - 2013.05.09 04:28:00 - [23] - Quote It's not cartoony it just doesn't look like grainy crap anymore.
DigiOps Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 194	Posted - 2013.05.09 04:36:00 - [24] - Quote I like it.
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 833	Posted - 2013.05.09 05:02:00 - [25] - Quote Environment lighting is really nice. Very well done in most maps. Some of the best wide open space, outdoor, landscape directional lighting I have seen on console. There are some weird instances of a sort of halo effect when you have a dark figure against a dark ground. We aren't seeing very subtle reflected light on the side of an object facing away from the main light source, or light wrapping around objects. Especially the character models as they move through the environment. But to me the entire build has a "fatter" feeling. As if lighting and effects were rendered with sharpie, as opposed to a rapidograph. However that translates to Wacom tablet. Everything does look 2 dimensional, graphic and over saturated in the Warbarge. Not too sure about the Amarrr interior decorators/ designers. High key sodium glare is oppressive and I would expect a more natural light in a living space. Even if the walls had a golden glow. But maybe the Amarr do it differently.
crazy space 1 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1103	Posted - 2013.05.09 05:14:00 - [26] - Quote HOMMANDO wrote: CCP Photon wrote: From a tech perspective, in Uprising we have been moving towards materials that have a more complex and realistic response to lighting - a lot of focus was put on the metallic materials and the terrain materials. Assault rifles look like they've been dipped in oil when you're in a dark area. Yeah they only have single shader map....
crazy space 1 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1103	Posted - 2013.05.09 05:15:00 - [27] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: CCP Photon wrote: I think I will leave it to my Artist colleagues to address your feedback on art style. From a tech perspective, in Uprising we have been moving towards materials that have a more complex and realistic response to lighting - a lot of focus was put on the metallic materials and the terrain materials. CCP Photon than why does my heavy suit look made out of cloth? Because parts of it are, but it's only got simple shaders on now :/ So instead of just parts the effect seems to be on the whole thing...
DAMIOS82 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.05.09 05:39:00 - [28] - Quote I'm not sure how it is with other people, but the graphics became 100 times worse on my tv. I have a full HD 1080i 102 cm LCD, Now in Beta i had a full screen, now it only displays on half the screen in the middle, with black bar outlinings. So i have to zoom in with my tv, what makes it even worse. Everything is pixelated, its all fuzzy and hazy, low details, and allthough i like colors, It looks to much Cartoon style. A.k.a borderlands, and i hate that style of game. I personally like realism, not cartoon books/comics. When compared with Eve. Eve looks reall, feels reall and since Dust is an extension to Eve in a way, it should look and feel the same way, just with more colors. But not this style. To me its as if i'm playing a game on the very lowest settings of my Pentium 1 graphics card. Not to mention when using a scoped sniper rifle, the figures on the battlefield look either completely black, at a far distance, or pixels closer by. The only thing that actually looked good was the tank, there you could actually see the graphics and details improved. I trully hope CCP is making the graphics there top priority, because graphics are half the games worth.
2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 97	Posted - 2013.05.09 07:18:00 - [29] - Quote DAMIOS82 wrote: I'm not sure how it is with other people, but the graphics became 100 times worse on my tv. I have a full HD 1080i 102 cm LCD, Now in Beta i had a full screen, now it only displays on half the screen in the middle, with black bar outlinings. So i have to zoom in with my tv, what makes it even worse. Everything is pixelated, its all fuzzy and hazy, low details, and allthough i like colors, It looks to much Cartoon style. A.k.a borderlands, and i hate that style of game. I personally like realism, not cartoon books/comics. When compared with Eve. Eve looks reall, feels reall and since Dust is an extension to Eve in a way, it should look and feel the same way, just with more colors. But not this style. To me its as if i'm playing a game on the very lowest settings of my Pentium 1 graphics card. Not to mention when using a scoped sniper rifle, the figures on the battlefield look either completely black, at a far distance, or pixels closer by. The only thing that actually looked good was the tank, there you could actually see the graphics and details improved. I trully hope CCP is making the graphics there top priority, because graphics are half the games worth. I'd recommend switching your display settings over to 720p and see if that's any better. This sounds from my (very limited) experience that it's an issue with the interlaced image format associated with 1080i (especially with your comment about it only displaying half the image). These graphics are a billion times better, so you're obviously not seeing what the rest of us are
Panther Alpha WarRavens Orion Empire 160	Posted - 2013.05.09 08:48:00 - [30] - Quote Rubbish, it have that "Counter Strike" feel to it... I love it. Not saying in any form that Dust 514 is now CS, even that it wont be such a bad thing. To me CS is one of the games that always got the balance of "Performance V's Graphics" spot on.

Smooth Head Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.05.09 08:56:00 - [31] - Quote Arron Rift wrote: This mostly applies to night time battles, but much of the scenery seems to get this strange glowing outline around it. I'm not sure if the sky is glitching or what, but it kind of reminds me of Sly Cooper :P Has anyone else encountered this? Could be a desperation move by CCP. Maybe. TF2 in space. Without the awesome game of course.
Cybus Trama'dol EYE Security Task Force and Resources Acquisition 7	Posted - 2013.05.09 09:08:00 - [32] - Quote mollerz wrote: nanohives get lost when you are in them as well. You used to know when you were in the actual hive, but now the visual of it gets dampended away when you are in it. I'll take that as a good thing... Were you ever in a firefight while standing inside the glow of 2 or 3 hives in the last build??? With all the sparkles and moving lights its was like you were tripping on acid so aiming went to ****.
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 119	Posted - 2013.05.09 09:14:00 - [33] - Quote I know a lot of people are liking the new graphics but I actually think its worse now. Cartoonish yes and sometimes way too colorful.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3760	Posted - 2013.05.09 09:17:00 - [34] - Quote I like the colors damnit, don't nerf the colors. I want to see even more colors. If I wanted bland dull colors I would be playing BF3.
skinn trayde On The Brink CRONOS. 117	Posted - 2013.05.09 09:23:00 - [35] - Quote before and after here
SirManBoy Planetary Response Organization 33	Posted - 2013.05.09 09:29:00 - [36] - Quote I, too, preferred the old look. Everything seems washed out now. Motion looked better in the old build as well.
KatanaPT Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 101	Posted - 2013.05.09 09:30:00 - [37] - Quote I love the new look, the only beef i have with it is that now its pretty hard to discern suits against the background or the ground.
Panther Alpha WarRavens Orion Empire 160	Posted - 2013.05.09 09:37:00 - [38] - Quote skinn trayde wrote: before and after here There.. i fixed that for you.
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 452	Posted - 2013.05.09 09:42:00 - [39] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: I love the new look, the only beef i have with it is that now its pretty hard to discern suits against the background or the ground. I love this fact. It use to be too easy for snipers to see people at a far range. People use to stand out like a sore thumb. This really helps those who play sneaky. Everything about the new look is good. Complainers are funny.
Gunner Needed The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 118	Posted - 2013.05.09 09:48:00 - [40] - Quote the new shield regen on vehicles is ugly, one big shining brick

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2854	Posted - 2013.05.09 10:06:00 - [41] - Quote skinn trayde wrote: before and after here ...So you're saying that Black Beauty needs an HD remake?
Peter Hanther Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 43	Posted - 2013.05.09 13:10:00 - [42] - Quote SILENTSAM 69 wrote: KatanaPT wrote: I love the new look, the only beef i have with it is that now its pretty hard to discern suits against the background or the ground. I love this fact. It use to be too easy for snipers to see people at a far range. People use to stand out like a sore thumb. This really helps those who play sneaky. Everything about the new look is good. Complainers are funny. Remember Logistics people are now bright yellow... That said I love the new graphics
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 835	Posted - 2013.05.09 13:28:00 - [43] - Quote skinn trayde wrote: before and after here Nah. Too many tertiary colours in your after picture. Not enough bright primary colors. Our new drop suits make us 1970s super heros. But if yellow worked for Wolverine, it can work for you.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 511	Posted - 2013.05.09 15:34:00 - [44] - Quote Andrea Auroras wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Everything looks great to me aside from some anti aliasing issues with gunfire lines. I like the graphical improvements. What definition tvs are you guys using? do you guys use as HDMI cable? Can you show any pictures of what you're talking about? I'm using an HDtv monitor with 50000:1 Dynamic Contrast and HDMI and although most static things are fine (although not what I was expecting from the screenshots in devblogs), animations with gunfire, rockets, hives, plants etc are all blocky like something outta an 80's arcade game. It's even worse at sniper ranges where dropsuit animations become, as said above, very boarderlands, and the gunfire is just a load of squares. I think the new graphics are beautiful on to macro scale. Things feel much more epic on th battlefield now. Vegetation looks good too, short draw diatance is noticeable but this is an old platform we're on. Impressive work CCP. Noticeable changes to the antialiasing in this build tho - most obvious when looking at a ridgeline backlit by the sky. Tracers too. Immersion-breaking imo. Up close the terrain is a little cartoony in spots(planning a post to provide specific locations and details later, not everything looks cartoony). My biggest gripe is the character loading screen. I think it's an error in design judgement - the cartoony 'character card' we select to log in to the game has an art style that creates a jarring dichotomy with the art style of New Eden and th conceptual foundations of DUST. I d really like to see it go and have and updated, embedded-in-the-DUST-terrain image or animation of my merc. The motivation for the cartoony character card may be loading time tho - if that is the case i'd say just revisit the art style with New Eden grittyness in mind - the cartoon definitely sends the wrong message.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 705	Posted - 2013.05.09 16:00:00 - [45] - Quote What looks cartoony to me is the massive drop in framerate for distant objects. Watch an LAV drive into the distance and eventually it will look like a Ralph Bakshi cartoon drawn on the threes.
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 43	Posted - 2013.05.09 16:01:00 - [46] - Quote UE sucks , i hate it in EVERY game that has it , wished CCP would have made one inhouse
DAMIOS82 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.05.10 07:30:00 - [47] - Quote 2100 Angels you where right, my tv had it on autosetting for 570p, so 720p solved the problem and indeed i was missing out on the graphics. 1080i and 1080p still don't work mind you. That beeing said dispite the better graphics it still could do with less cartoon style and more realism.


Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]