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Takron Nistrom eHarmony Inc. Phobia. 83	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:16:00 - [1] - Quote I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there... 1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release. 2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills. and finally, 3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter.
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 245	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:17:00 - [2] - Quote This game is still a beta, because it still feels like a beta.... just "prettier".
Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 588	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:18:00 - [3] - Quote The problem is that they killed several of the field roles with the new changes. I'm really hoping that the info I'm hearing about the light and heavy frames is exaggeration, but if it really does match up with what people are saying... I dunno if I'm gunna stay with this game.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2219	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:19:00 - [4] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there... 1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release. 2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills. and finally, 3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter. Can I remind you that comparing Dust to Eve is border-line ********? No offense - but EVE you have options on where and when to suck or not suck. You can PvP or not PvP - you can just fly around and enjoy. Dust is ALL PVP. If you suck you suck and there will be no fun for you here. So if CCP fucks your class over - HTFU cause there's nothing that can done about it. The game being in beta this long should of been a sign that CCP has no clue what's going on. This build just magnifies that. 1 more week till people really start raging.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1024	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:22:00 - [5] - Quote Just want to say this game is still a load of **** and it's not ready for release. Wait until May 2014 (514) to release, but this build is not a release build. It needs to actually function properly.
Gabber Medic Planetary Response Organization 12	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:23:00 - [6] - Quote good point. i'm pretty sure they did say in one of the podcasts that they had a goal in mind that endgame would take a while to see. well until they add more gameplay options ( besides PC and FW ) this game is just a pointless FPS grindfest. even though i really do enjoy this game, I can't play more than 5 matches before getting bored of it. hell even MCC'ing feels like a chore now.
Takron Nistrom eHarmony Inc. Phobia. 83	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:24:00 - [7] - Quote It is just PvP for now, there will be PvE eventually. Just like the market will eventually be implimented. The changes that are broken are a whole different story. I'm hoping they get fixed, but patch day is always a bumpy ride.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2220	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:30:00 - [8] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: It is just PvP for now, there will be PvE eventually. Just like the market will eventually be implimented. The changes that are broken are a whole different story. I'm hoping they get fixed, but patch day is always a bumpy ride. you're post is no better then what we know from CCP. A whole bunch of "SOONS" It sucks NOW. Who cares what comes in 6 months if I'm going to hate getting there? I already have since june of last year under my belt of this stupid non-sense of CCP ******* over my class, Logi-LAV, and everything I enjoy. They can't release decent maps but brag about having a map creaotor, they can't come out with decent gear spread for all classes but brag about how much they can do with it. They don't do anything for game modes but talk about how involves players will be in the battlefield. There's a ton to hate - there's a ton to call them out on that was promised ages ago and should be here. But instead of the content to please us - we get nerfs nerfs nerfs nerfs nerfs.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 20	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:36:00 - [9] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: It is just PvP for now, there will be PvE eventually. Just like the market will eventually be implimented. The changes that are broken are a whole different story. I'm hoping they get fixed, but patch day is always a bumpy ride. you're post is no better then what we know from CCP. A whole bunch of "SOONS" It sucks NOW. Who cares what comes in 6 months if I'm going to hate getting there? I already have since june of last year under my belt of this stupid non-sense of CCP ******* over my class, Logi-LAV, and everything I enjoy. They can't release decent maps but brag about having a map creaotor, they can't come out with decent gear spread for all classes but brag about how much they can do with it. They don't do anything for game modes but talk about how involves players will be in the battlefield. There's a ton to hate - there's a ton to call them out on that was promised ages ago and should be here. But instead of the content to please us - we get nerfs nerfs nerfs nerfs nerfs. and dont forget the sh!tty iron sights on ar's smh this should be sent directly to ccp hopefully then they will see how some feel. a great great letdown for the guys on the ground.
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 216	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:39:00 - [10] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: The problem is that they killed several of the field roles with the new changes. I'm really hoping that the info I'm hearing about the light and heavy frames is exaggeration, but if it really does match up with what people are saying... I dunno if I'm gunna stay with this game. Is an exaggeration heavies still kick ass mate. We have three in corp wh to continue to use the suits to great effect. The only people complaining are the hyper competitive players who give a **** about KDR, point for point twinking, etc. I could have picked any suit, learnt its tips and tricks and used it to great effect.

boba's fetta Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers 40	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:48:00 - [11] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there... 1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release. 2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills. and finally, 3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter. Can I remind you that comparing Dust to Eve is border-line ********? No offense - but EVE you have options on where and when to suck or not suck. You can PvP or not PvP - you can just fly around and enjoy. Dust is ALL PVP. If you suck you suck and there will be no fun for you here. So if CCP fucks your class over - HTFU cause there's nothing that can done about it. The game being in beta this long should of been a sign that CCP has no clue what's going on. This build just magnifies that. 1 more week till people really start raging. i think you misunderstand eve. pvp is all over new eden and there is no choice but to accept that fact. why just today i sat off the amarr undock in my shiney new 713 dps gnosis blowing away piwates. i spend a lot of my time in wh space and i murder russians for lols. you think your safe in high sec. my gank ship says your not.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2222	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:50:00 - [12] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Jotun Hiem wrote: The problem is that they killed several of the field roles with the new changes. I'm really hoping that the info I'm hearing about the light and heavy frames is exaggeration, but if it really does match up with what people are saying... I dunno if I'm gunna stay with this game. Is an exaggeration heavies still kick ass mate. We have three in corp wh to continue to use the suits to great effect. The only people complaining are the hyper competitive players who give a **** about KDR, point for point twinking, etc. I could have picked any suit, learnt its tips and tricks and used it to great effect. This is what's wrong here. You think competitive heavies means KDR - it means being useful when it matters in a game where both sides are well coordinated. We - just like anyone else - want to pull our weight and make things happen, not just camp and hope someone comes close enough. So please - stop spreading your ignorance.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2222	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:52:00 - [13] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there... 1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release. 2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills. and finally, 3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter. Can I remind you that comparing Dust to Eve is border-line ********? No offense - but EVE you have options on where and when to suck or not suck. You can PvP or not PvP - you can just fly around and enjoy. Dust is ALL PVP. If you suck you suck and there will be no fun for you here. So if CCP fucks your class over - HTFU cause there's nothing that can done about it. The game being in beta this long should of been a sign that CCP has no clue what's going on. This build just magnifies that. 1 more week till people really start raging. i think you misunderstand eve. pvp is all over new eden and there is no choice but to accept that fact. why just today i sat off the amarr undock in my shiney new 713 dps gnosis blowing away piwates. i spend a lot of my time in wh space and i murder russians for lols. you think your safe in high sec. my gank ship says your not. Sweet - now how is that still comparable to dust where there's always going to be a gun pointed at you because that's all there is? You're still given options in EVE - you can go to a zone I hear where security is high. You can explore - go mine - go enjoy. None of that is here and won't be for not just 6 months - but for a year+
Takron Nistrom eHarmony Inc. Phobia. 83	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:53:00 - [14] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: boba's fetta wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there... 1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release. 2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills. and finally, 3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter. Can I remind you that comparing Dust to Eve is border-line ********? No offense - but EVE you have options on where and when to suck or not suck. You can PvP or not PvP - you can just fly around and enjoy. Dust is ALL PVP. If you suck you suck and there will be no fun for you here. So if CCP fucks your class over - HTFU cause there's nothing that can done about it. The game being in beta this long should of been a sign that CCP has no clue what's going on. This build just magnifies that. 1 more week till people really start raging. i think you misunderstand eve. pvp is all over new eden and there is no choice but to accept that fact. why just today i sat off the amarr undock in my shiney new 713 dps gnosis blowing away piwates. i spend a lot of my time in wh space and i murder russians for lols. you think your safe in high sec. my gank ship says your not. Sweet - now how is that still comparable to dust where there's always going to be a gun pointed at you because that's all there is? You're still given options in EVE - you can go to a zone I hear where security is high. You can explore - go mine - go enjoy. None of that is here and won't be for not just 6 months - but for a year+ You can be killed anywhere in eve. Nowhere is safe, not even your missions.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2222	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:56:00 - [15] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: boba's fetta wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there... 1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release. 2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills. and finally, 3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter. Can I remind you that comparing Dust to Eve is border-line ********? No offense - but EVE you have options on where and when to suck or not suck. You can PvP or not PvP - you can just fly around and enjoy. Dust is ALL PVP. If you suck you suck and there will be no fun for you here. So if CCP fucks your class over - HTFU cause there's nothing that can done about it. The game being in beta this long should of been a sign that CCP has no clue what's going on. This build just magnifies that. 1 more week till people really start raging. i think you misunderstand eve. pvp is all over new eden and there is no choice but to accept that fact. why just today i sat off the amarr undock in my shiney new 713 dps gnosis blowing away piwates. i spend a lot of my time in wh space and i murder russians for lols. you think your safe in high sec. my gank ship says your not. Sweet - now how is that still comparable to dust where there's always going to be a gun pointed at you because that's all there is? You're still given options in EVE - you can go to a zone I hear where security is high. You can explore - go mine - go enjoy. None of that is here and won't be for not just 6 months - but for a year+ You can be killed anywhere in eve. Nowhere is safe, not even your missions. Then you're saying there is no place where there is no sort of security or anything to protect players? No place at all?
fred orpaul The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 257	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:22:00 - [16] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there... 1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release. 2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills. and finally, 3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter. Some of the early skills could use a slight multiplier decrease but other then that I think the skill progression is about right.
Muramasa Armads Defensores Doctrina 8	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:26:00 - [17] - Quote I agree with SoTa PoP. After playing so many builds this is what we get? This game should not be releasing this month because itGÇÖs not even close to a finished product. ItGÇÖs amazing how CCP has attacked both the scout and Heavies and made them irrelevant. Not only did CCP ruin the HMGGÇÖs, but they also screwed up the Forge Guns as well. Why does my Forge Gun have to blind me when I charge it up and how am I supposed to figure out when itGÇÖs fully charged? Who asked for that friendly blue circle to be removed from Forge Guns? I donGÇÖt get the spawning in Ambush either. ItGÇÖs ten times worse in this build than the last one. I literally had matches where it was putting me in the same spawn every time and I was getting destroyed. IGÇÖm very concerned about new players as well. This game was brutal to new playerGÇÖs last build, but if CCP doesnGÇÖt give these guys a decent tutorial or start implementing a match making system this could deal a devastating blow in growing the Dust Community. If I were a new player trying to play Uprising I would probably quit the first week out of frustration. The worst part is that even if a veteran shows a new player how to use their skill tree it wonGÇÖt be matter because theyGÇÖre so far behind in SP. I could grab any new player right now and try to teach them, but the first thing I have to tell them is that they need to have 4 million SP in order to be competitive. Who has that kind of patience?
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 379	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:31:00 - [18] - Quote Game has progression now? HOW DARE YOU, CCP! :D
Mary Sedillo XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S 30	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:34:00 - [19] - Quote You guys are getting a game FOR FREE. With Dust as with EVE, it is going to be an ongoing work-in-progress. Sheesh.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2225	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:35:00 - [20] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: You guys are getting a game FOR FREE. With Dust as with EVE, it is going to be an ongoing work-in-progress. Sheesh. Weak excuse for lying and giving false promises - come back with something that matters. Thanks.

Mary Sedillo XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S 32	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:37:00 - [21] - Quote "Lying and False Promises???" I think the game is rather enjoyable. They are working on the things they have offered. The game will keep being worked on. CCP hasn't abandoned DUST and I won't either. Thanks for showing the community how much of a whiny ***** you are.
Drogan Reeth Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 43	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:38:00 - [22] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: boba's fetta wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there... 1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release. 2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills. and finally, 3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter. Can I remind you that comparing Dust to Eve is border-line ********? No offense - but EVE you have options on where and when to suck or not suck. You can PvP or not PvP - you can just fly around and enjoy. Dust is ALL PVP. If you suck you suck and there will be no fun for you here. So if CCP fucks your class over - HTFU cause there's nothing that can done about it. The game being in beta this long should of been a sign that CCP has no clue what's going on. This build just magnifies that. 1 more week till people really start raging. i think you misunderstand eve. pvp is all over new eden and there is no choice but to accept that fact. why just today i sat off the amarr undock in my shiney new 713 dps gnosis blowing away piwates. i spend a lot of my time in wh space and i murder russians for lols. you think your safe in high sec. my gank ship says your not. Sweet - now how is that still comparable to dust where there's always going to be a gun pointed at you because that's all there is? You're still given options in EVE - you can go to a zone I hear where security is high. You can explore - go mine - go enjoy. None of that is here and won't be for not just 6 months - but for a year+ You can be killed anywhere in eve. Nowhere is safe, not even your missions. Then you're saying there is no place where there is no sort of security or anything to protect players? No place at all?[/quote] Don't worry he's lying. Technically you can be shot and killed anywhere, but in high sec the "Cops" will shoot them right back in the face and insta kill them. So ya, it happens but everyone doesnt run around shooting everyone in high sec, it's just something that's possible.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2225	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:39:00 - [23] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: "Lying and False Promises???" I think the game is rather enjoyable. They are working on the things they have offered. The game will keep being worked on. CCP hasn't abandoned DUST and I won't either. Thanks for showing the community how much of a whiny ***** you are. The community itself is whining and bitching - where have you been? Get out of your rock and look around - there's 2-3 entire class pissed about this and I'm one of them. Damn CCP fanboys >_>
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2225	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:40:00 - [24] - Quote Thanks for clarification. I was wondering why he stopped posting xD
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2729	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:49:00 - [25] - Quote -New progression rate Cool! I like it. People have to WORK for a specialisation, and it'll take a lot to build into a secondary role. -New skills and passive bonuses Great! ...when they work, because a lot of vehicle skills currently DON'T work. But the ideas are nice. -Buffs and nerfs Mostly reasonable enough, apart from the aforementioned vehicle skills, which I'm sure isn't intended, but is a harsh nerf nonetheless. The HMG got hit WAY too hard with the nerfhammer again. You'd think they would have learned after the last time they broke the gun. It's not even remotely close to being fair right now. -New Controls It's cool they give us some presets now, but none of them is ideal for me, and I'll still be waiting for ACTUAL control customisation. Also, why only LAVs getting R2/L2 movement controls? I want that for my tank. Acceleration is nice, but NOT when it's forced with no ability to adjust or remove it. Turning Aim Assist off breaks CQC completely. Mouse control is screwed - and while CCP admit mouse control is screwed, they haven't specified the problem they know about, of which there could (should) be several, and if they don't fix ALL the problems, it's still going to be broken. I've also noticed input lag quite often with the mouse, and occasionally on the sixaxis as well. -New graphics Really nice. I do like the look of Uprising. But I'm not sure the reduced FOV is worth it for the upgrade. It's restrictive, it makes everything feel smaller, and it gives a lot of players motion sickness. We need AT LEAST Chromosome's FOV for the game to retain its epic feel and sense of scale.
Grimulf Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:51:00 - [26] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Then you're saying there is no place where there is no sort of security or anything to protect players? No place at all? Oh, there is security in place. There are sentry guns and NPC police forces in Empire space. But they aren't there to protect you. They're there to gently discourage people violence-ing your boats, and to avenge your death after their discouragement fails. They aren't psychic. They operate just like the real police. They respond to crimes after the fact, not before. It's entirely possible to pop someone in the highest security space, if you've a mind to. You'll probably lose your ship over it, but pop them you can! Nowhere is "safe" in EVE. Just safer.


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