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Posted - 2013.05.07 02:19:00 -
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Takron Nistrom wrote:I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there...
1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release.
2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills.
and finally,
3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter.
Can I remind you that comparing Dust to Eve is border-line ********? No offense - but EVE you have options on where and when to suck or not suck. You can PvP or not PvP - you can just fly around and enjoy.
Dust is ALL PVP. If you suck you suck and there will be no fun for you here. So if CCP fucks your class over - HTFU cause there's nothing that can done about it.
The game being in beta this long should of been a sign that CCP has no clue what's going on. This build just magnifies that. 1 more week till people really start raging. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 02:30:00 -
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Takron Nistrom wrote:It is just PvP for now, there will be PvE eventually. Just like the market will eventually be implimented.
The changes that are broken are a whole different story. I'm hoping they get fixed, but patch day is always a bumpy ride.
you're post is no better then what we know from CCP. A whole bunch of "SOONS"
It sucks NOW. Who cares what comes in 6 months if I'm going to hate getting there? I already have since june of last year under my belt of this stupid non-sense of CCP ******* over my class, Logi-LAV, and everything I enjoy. They can't release decent maps but brag about having a map creaotor, they can't come out with decent gear spread for all classes but brag about how much they can do with it. They don't do anything for game modes but talk about how involves players will be in the battlefield.
There's a ton to hate - there's a ton to call them out on that was promised ages ago and should be here.
But instead of the content to please us - we get nerfs nerfs nerfs nerfs nerfs.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 02:50:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:The problem is that they killed several of the field roles with the new changes.
I'm really hoping that the info I'm hearing about the light and heavy frames is exaggeration, but if it really does match up with what people are saying...
I dunno if I'm gunna stay with this game. Is an exaggeration heavies still kick ass mate. We have three in corp wh to continue to use the suits to great effect. The only people complaining are the hyper competitive players who give a **** about KDR, point for point twinking, etc. I could have picked any suit, learnt its tips and tricks and used it to great effect.
This is what's wrong here. You think competitive heavies means KDR - it means being useful when it matters in a game where both sides are well coordinated. We - just like anyone else - want to pull our weight and make things happen, not just camp and hope someone comes close enough.
So please - stop spreading your ignorance. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 02:52:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Takron Nistrom wrote:I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there...
1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release.
2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills.
and finally,
3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter. Can I remind you that comparing Dust to Eve is border-line ********? No offense - but EVE you have options on where and when to suck or not suck. You can PvP or not PvP - you can just fly around and enjoy. Dust is ALL PVP. If you suck you suck and there will be no fun for you here. So if CCP fucks your class over - HTFU cause there's nothing that can done about it. The game being in beta this long should of been a sign that CCP has no clue what's going on. This build just magnifies that. 1 more week till people really start raging. i think you misunderstand eve. pvp is all over new eden and there is no choice but to accept that fact. why just today i sat off the amarr undock in my shiney new 713 dps gnosis blowing away piwates. i spend a lot of my time in wh space and i murder russians for lols. you think your safe in high sec. my gank ship says your not.
Sweet - now how is that still comparable to dust where there's always going to be a gun pointed at you because that's all there is? You're still given options in EVE - you can go to a zone I hear where security is high. You can explore - go mine - go enjoy. None of that is here and won't be for not just 6 months - but for a year+ |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 02:56:00 -
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Takron Nistrom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:boba's fetta wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Takron Nistrom wrote:I know the shooter crowd and the console crowd is not used to things taking so long, but to start with the change to the Drop Suits and go from there...
1). The game before today was a beta. it needed to be a fast paced advancement through the tree to test all the items. Now that the game is live, it is slowed down to normal advancement. Just be happy they let all the testers keep their points at all. This is the first beta I ever played that did not wipe on release.
2). I know the people who have only played Dust and only ever plan on playing Dust might not care directly about Eve, but they are a symbiotic life-form and the system now cannot exist without them both. That being said, the suit advancement is not unlike ship advancement now. The basic drop-suits are like tech one ships and the specialized suits, logi, assault, etc. are like tech 2 ships. Being in the beta spoiled all the testers with the speed. Someone starting in Eve would not dream of getting into a tech 2 ship for at least a month and that is just the ship, not counting good weapons and support skills.
and finally,
3). I have been playing Eve for about 7 years and I just recently started having the ability to use most T2 ships and most items. That being said also, there should be no doubt about Dust being a long term career game just as Eve is. I personally am glad they extended out the advancement so much and added so many more skills. the sense of advancement and achievement will be all that sweeter. Can I remind you that comparing Dust to Eve is border-line ********? No offense - but EVE you have options on where and when to suck or not suck. You can PvP or not PvP - you can just fly around and enjoy. Dust is ALL PVP. If you suck you suck and there will be no fun for you here. So if CCP fucks your class over - HTFU cause there's nothing that can done about it. The game being in beta this long should of been a sign that CCP has no clue what's going on. This build just magnifies that. 1 more week till people really start raging. i think you misunderstand eve. pvp is all over new eden and there is no choice but to accept that fact. why just today i sat off the amarr undock in my shiney new 713 dps gnosis blowing away piwates. i spend a lot of my time in wh space and i murder russians for lols. you think your safe in high sec. my gank ship says your not. Sweet - now how is that still comparable to dust where there's always going to be a gun pointed at you because that's all there is? You're still given options in EVE - you can go to a zone I hear where security is high. You can explore - go mine - go enjoy. None of that is here and won't be for not just 6 months - but for a year+ You can be killed anywhere in eve. Nowhere is safe, not even your missions.
Then you're saying there is no place where there is no sort of security or anything to protect players? No place at all? |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 03:35:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:You guys are getting a game FOR FREE. With Dust as with EVE, it is going to be an ongoing work-in-progress. Sheesh.
Weak excuse for lying and giving false promises - come back with something that matters. Thanks. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 03:39:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:"Lying and False Promises???" I think the game is rather enjoyable. They are working on the things they have offered. The game will keep being worked on. CCP hasn't abandoned DUST and I won't either. Thanks for showing the community how much of a whiny ***** you are.
The community itself is whining and bitching - where have you been? Get out of your rock and look around - there's 2-3 entire class pissed about this and I'm one of them.
Damn CCP fanboys >_> |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 03:40:00 -
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Thanks for clarification. I was wondering why he stopped posting xD |
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