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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 00:08:00 -
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The logistics dropsuit is the only example of specialization done right as of now, the logistics is very different from the basic mediums; giving up one thing to be very good at (or "specialize") something else. There are other examples of true specialized suits coming that CCP has mentioned: The "commando" heavy specialization that sacrifices HP and and the heavy weapon slot in exchange for 2 light weapons. The crusader suits that do AoE support buffs, the pilot suits that enhance vehicle effectiveness, and the multiple grenade slot suits they mentioned are also examples of real specializations.
The majority of what we have right now however are not real specializations, but mild tweaks. From medium to assault, from light to scout, and from heavy to sentinel there is barely any change. This makes the massive SP investment needed to unlock the specialized suits pretty pointless. Why specialize into scout if you already have basic light? Why specialize into assault when you have a basic medium? Sure there are the racial bonuses, but that hardly justifies the amount of SP spent which could have been better spent making one's character more versatile.
With exception to the logistics, remove all the so-called "specializations" like assaults and scouts (possibly make the basic adopt their stats), and add ral specializations in their place that actually branch off into diverse roles supporting different playstyles, and not just some mildly tweaked copy/pasted basic's stats.
The light branches into scout, and probably the upcoming pilot suits. The scout should be replaced with a two different suits that each specialize into different aspects of the light frame's strengths; one can be a suit designed for extreme speed, while the other can be a relatively slow suit (for a light) that specializes in scanning detect of enemies.
Medium branches off into logistics and assault, but since the assault is a redundancy of the medium, I propose the assault should be replaced by the grenadier: Grenadier should only have a sidearm and have multiple grenade slots as weapons.
The heavy branches out into the sentinel and the upcoming commando, but since sentinel is redundant, it can be replaced into 2 different specializations that each exemplify the tanking and damage dealing strengths of the heavy; one would be a super armored heavy with very low mobility like a true walking tank, while the other should be a much less armored than the basic heavy and have lots of high slots for damage mods.
These are just examples of how I would redo the specializations, the specifics don't really matter. What matters is that there needs to be meaningful differences from the basic and the specializations to make the specializations worth skilling into. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:12:00 -
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Any more thoughts on this? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:20:00 -
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Great idea
DUST Fiend wrote:All specialist suits should have "class specific" modules, to better flesh out their roles.
Or at least receive large reductions to fitting requirements for said items, allowing other classes to use them if they want a gimpish fit, but added versatility.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=765881#post765881 |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:06:00 -
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Added this to the OP: "For logi players, it would be good to have the basic medium frame have 2 equipment slots to allow it to be used as a decent logi substitute; right now the basic medium frame only works as an assault substitute. This change would require that all specialized logi suits have at least 3 equipment slots to differentiate themselves from the mediums"
It is only fair. Logis and assaults share the same basic frame, yet only one of them can fulfill their role with the basic frame. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:11:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:No specialization should have the same fittings as the basic line. It sucks that 3 out of our 4 specializations are in this boat. Agreed |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 13:22:00 -
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More feedback on the subject is welcomed. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.23 06:25:00 -
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Still want the 2 equipment slots for the basic mediums, and minimum of 3 for all logis. |
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