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Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 878	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:08:00 - [1] - Quote The assault starter fits of the Gallente and Caldari are equal in HP, only the caldari one got triple the recharge and no slowness... I don't get it.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 190	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:10:00 - [2] - Quote Damage mods and higher HP.
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 78	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:11:00 - [3] - Quote Damage mods that you get penalized for stacking. Lol Armor tanking.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 878	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:11:00 - [4] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: Damage mods and higher HP. Starter fits have no medium slots. HP is the same. Even at higher levels its only a difference of a single bullet.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3907	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:12:00 - [5] - Quote That energy weapons wont tear you to pieces.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 190	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:13:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: Damage mods and higher HP. Starter fits have no medium slots. HP is the same. Even at higher levels its only a difference of a single bullet. What are medium slots?
Takron Nistrom Intara Direct Action Caldari State 83	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:15:00 - [7] - Quote Armor gives you more raw HP and it helps against burst damage. The shields have lower total HP because they recharge on their own. You get the speed penalty but generally more total HP. Shields are good for extended engagements, armor for lasting in shorter fights. Shields work differently in dust than eve. In eve they recharge constantly so you can actually have a passive tank that you can't get through unless you do more damage than your shields recharge. In Dust you have to be out of battle for a few seconds before it kicks in, which is a tad disappointing because passive tanking is very fun.
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 111	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:16:00 - [8] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: Damage mods and higher HP. Starter fits have no medium slots. HP is the same. Even at higher levels its only a difference of a single bullet. What are medium slots? What the "high" slots in Dust should be called.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 878	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:20:00 - [9] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: Armor gives you more raw HP and it helps against burst damage. The shields have lower total HP because they recharge on their own. You get the speed penalty but generally more total HP. Shields are good for extended engagements, armor for lasting in shorter fights. Shields work differently in dust than eve. In eve they recharge constantly so you can actually have a passive tank that you can't get through unless you do more damage than your shields recharge. In Dust you have to be out of battle for a few seconds before it kicks in, which is a tad disappointing because passive tanking is very fun. Dude. Armor gets MAYBE one extra bullet of health. MAYBE. Only at complex level. Else shields are superior always.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3907	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:20:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: Armor gives you more raw HP and it helps against burst damage. The shields have lower total HP because they recharge on their own. You get the speed penalty but generally more total HP. Shields are good for extended engagements, armor for lasting in shorter fights. Shields work differently in dust than eve. In eve they recharge constantly so you can actually have a passive tank that you can't get through unless you do more damage than your shields recharge. In Dust you have to be out of battle for a few seconds before it kicks in, which is a tad disappointing because passive tanking is very fun. Dude. Armor gets MAYBE one extra bullet of health. MAYBE. Only at complex level. Else shields are superior always. Armor plates skill get armor plate bonus

Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 878	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:22:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: Armor gives you more raw HP and it helps against burst damage. The shields have lower total HP because they recharge on their own. You get the speed penalty but generally more total HP. Shields are good for extended engagements, armor for lasting in shorter fights. Shields work differently in dust than eve. In eve they recharge constantly so you can actually have a passive tank that you can't get through unless you do more damage than your shields recharge. In Dust you have to be out of battle for a few seconds before it kicks in, which is a tad disappointing because passive tanking is very fun. Dude. Armor gets MAYBE one extra bullet of health. MAYBE. Only at complex level. Else shields are superior always. Armor plates skill get armor plate bonus Shield extenders get the same bonus.
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 264	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:27:00 - [12] - Quote BursegSardaukar wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: Damage mods and higher HP. Starter fits have no medium slots. HP is the same. Even at higher levels its only a difference of a single bullet. What are medium slots? What the "high" slots in Dust should be called. You, sir, may bump my fist. Also, gave you a +1.
Yani Nabari One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 41	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:31:00 - [13] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Damage mods that you get penalized for stacking. Lol Armor tanking. You must be new here.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 270	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:35:00 - [14] - Quote Yani Nabari wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Damage mods that you get penalized for stacking. Lol Armor tanking. You must be new here. For quite possibly the millionth time - stacking penalties were never broken, only the UI telling you what your total modifier was.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 389	Posted - 2013.05.06 18:45:00 - [15] - Quote Well...there IS a tool according to the database dump that repairs 105 HP/s which will blow any shield recharge rate out of the water...And with 2-3 logis on him a well armor tanked heavy will probably be able to take a full AR clip to the body with those reps on him.
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 213	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:12:00 - [16] - Quote That my gal basic standard has 149 shields and 405 armour but only costs 10k lol thats a nice bonus,
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 176	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:19:00 - [17] - Quote You have to stack reps otherwise you rep so slowly that it's nearly useless. If you stack plates to equal the HP of shields, you end up slow as hell and practically unable to rep.
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 214	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:32:00 - [18] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: You have to stack reps otherwise you rep so slowly that it's nearly useless. If you stack plates to equal the HP of shields, you end up slow as hell and practically unable to rep. Unless you have a logi handy and one type of basic nanohive has an armour rep.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 879	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:46:00 - [19] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Well...there IS a tool according to the database dump that repairs 105 HP/s which will blow any shield recharge rate out of the water...And with 2-3 logis on him a well armor tanked heavy will probably be able to take a full AR clip to the body with those reps on him. I checked. Its vehicle repair rate, no such thing for dropsuits.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 879	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:47:00 - [20] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: You have to stack reps otherwise you rep so slowly that it's nearly useless. If you stack plates to equal the HP of shields, you end up slow as hell and practically unable to rep. Unless you have a logi handy and one type of basic nanohive has an armour rep. So I have to bring an extra player and a specific equipment to reach the same viability as shields? k

Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 397	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:52:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Well...there IS a tool according to the database dump that repairs 105 HP/s which will blow any shield recharge rate out of the water...And with 2-3 logis on him a well armor tanked heavy will probably be able to take a full AR clip to the body with those reps on him. I checked. Its vehicle repair rate, no such thing for dropsuits. Core Focused repair tool? I'm not updated yet and still at work...Also, the table says compact nanohive rep 50Hp/s... want to test that...
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 214	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:52:00 - [22] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: You have to stack reps otherwise you rep so slowly that it's nearly useless. If you stack plates to equal the HP of shields, you end up slow as hell and practically unable to rep. Unless you have a logi handy and one type of basic nanohive has an armour rep. So I have to bring an extra player and a specific equipment to reach the same viability as shields? k Dont have to but a armour tanker can reach a higher HP than shields, highest shield extender is 66 isn't it armour is 115 and thats not factoring the bonus from armour plates or shield extender skills so you can get quite allot of hp for example the first gal medium frame I have 405 armour using only basic plates and I have PG/CPU enough for higher level plates does anyone knoe what the cal basic medium first level suit can get with 3 basic shield extenders?


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