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Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:11:00 -
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It is wrong to put these tanks in the game and people with no SP in vehicle command or HAV skills can just jump into it. At least you could have made them spend the sp on something like the rest of us who grind out for it. BS |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
494
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:13:00 -
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They're not that bad, I popped one with a militia forge gun. Almost as bad as militia tanks. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
522
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:14:00 -
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I'm guessing you got killed by one |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
411
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:16:00 -
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I was concerned about this when I first saw them on the market, however the first match after that, I was able to destroy three of them in one match, because they were terribly fitted.
Basically: these tanks might not need skill points, but they still need skill. |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:16:00 -
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I haven't bought a tank in months... i just think its bs to just let people get in the tanks who dont have sp for vehicle command.. can just solely put sp into the turrets |
DJINN Kujo
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
67
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:16:00 -
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Worse case scenario, you get people who are specialized into tanking and use the Aurum variant just to save money, double edged sword I think. |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
86
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:17:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:I was concerned about this when I first saw them on the market, however the first match after that, I was able to destroy three of them in one match, because they were terribly fitted.
Basically: these tanks might not need skill points, but they still need skill.
only skill they need is the fitting and turret... not the skills for actually sitting in the tank |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
86
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:19:00 -
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i could have waited and built the same tanks i can build now and have 2 mil sp put somewhere else(not exactly sure how much sp it takes) |
HOMMANDO
Goonfeet
82
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:19:00 -
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I don't think it's a big deal because anyone who has actually skilled into tanks is going to have the edge in a straight up fight. You should have better modules + the damage bonuses from your turret skills. |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
86
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:25:00 -
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HOMMANDO wrote:I don't think it's a big deal because anyone who has actually skilled into tanks is going to have the edge in a straight up fight. You should have better modules + the damage bonuses from your turret skills.
once again... you can have those same bonuses and the extra sp that you didnt have to waste to sit in the tank or be able to call it in |
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Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood
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86
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:27:00 -
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with that sp that you didnt have to spend in VC and HAV all you gotta do is dump it into the turret.. most of the players will have almost all the skills from playin infantry for the fittings |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
495
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:31:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:with that sp that you didnt have to spend in VC and HAV all you gotta do is dump it into the turret.. most of the players will have almost all the skills from playin infantry for the fittings
Meh, they're just as bad as the AUR proto suits. Unless they have more money than sense, they're not going to have enough experience to pilot that HAV correctly just like protoscrubs don't know how to use that suit correctly. Player Skill > SP Skill |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
442
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:36:00 -
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Vehicle and infantry skills are split up
Doesnt matter now if they buy that tank they will be ******* useless in it |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
86
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:36:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Ted Nugget wrote:with that sp that you didnt have to spend in VC and HAV all you gotta do is dump it into the turret.. most of the players will have almost all the skills from playin infantry for the fittings Meh, they're just as bad as the AUR proto suits. Unless they have more money than sense, they're not going to have enough experience to pilot that HAV correctly just like protoscrubs don't know how to use that suit correctly. Player Skill > SP Skill
a proto rail gun is a proto rail gun regardless the player skill |
HOMMANDO
Goonfeet
82
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:37:00 -
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Unlike EVE, there is only one way to obtain AURUM in DUST. In order to keep that extra bit of SP they dumped into tank specific modules useful, they will have to pay real money. If they stop purchasing AURUM, then they will be stuck with useless skills until they dump SP into tanks, which will put them and you on the same level.
I know it gives them a temporary advantage, but I don't think it's a game breaking advantage.
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Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
86
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:37:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Vehicle and infantry skills are split up
Doesnt matter now if they buy that tank they will be ******* useless in it
they weren't split up before... i spec'd into tanks and when i was done i could use all infantry modules
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Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
86
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:38:00 -
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HOMMANDO wrote:Unlike EVE, there is only one way to obtain AURUM in DUST. In order to keep that extra bit of SP they dumped into tank specific modules useful, they will have to pay real money. If they stop purchasing AURUM, then they will be stuck with useless skills until they dump SP into tanks, which will put them and you on the same level.
I know it gives them a temporary advantage, but I don't think it's a game breaking advantage.
i just disagree with it.. not everyone can just go get aurum |
boba's fetta
Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc.
Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers
35
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:47:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:HOMMANDO wrote:Unlike EVE, there is only one way to obtain AURUM in DUST. In order to keep that extra bit of SP they dumped into tank specific modules useful, they will have to pay real money. If they stop purchasing AURUM, then they will be stuck with useless skills until they dump SP into tanks, which will put them and you on the same level.
I know it gives them a temporary advantage, but I don't think it's a game breaking advantage.
i just disagree with it.. not everyone can just go get aurum
no one cares if you're a peasent.
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Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty
EoN.
507
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:52:00 -
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It's what, 350k for Vehicle Command and 60k for the HAV skill? So a week and a half or so you'd save with them plus the million ISK. Sure it's an advantage but not that extreme really. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
495
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:53:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:Cosgar wrote:Ted Nugget wrote:with that sp that you didnt have to spend in VC and HAV all you gotta do is dump it into the turret.. most of the players will have almost all the skills from playin infantry for the fittings Meh, they're just as bad as the AUR proto suits. Unless they have more money than sense, they're not going to have enough experience to pilot that HAV correctly just like protoscrubs don't know how to use that suit correctly. Player Skill > SP Skill a proto rail gun is a proto rail gun regardless the player skill
By that logic someone with a Duvolle will always beat someone using a GEK. Player skill is still a factor no matter what. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
442
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:59:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Vehicle and infantry skills are split up
Doesnt matter now if they buy that tank they will be ******* useless in it they weren't split up before... i spec'd into tanks and when i was done i could use all infantry modules
Are we still playing the chromosome build?
No its Uprising and its all changed
So once again the skills are split up and i know more than you |
Smooth Head
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:00:00 -
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How is that player market working out for ya? |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
268
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:15:00 -
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None of them know how to drive them 
If I had 100,000 ISK for every AUR Railgun tank I've destroyed with a blaster, I'd be a millionare! |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
206
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:45:00 -
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The aurum tanks are bad, this thread is bad, and you should feel bad. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2712
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Posted - 2013.05.06 11:15:00 -
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Armor Pack tanks = TINY step above Militia tanks.
AUR Gunnlogi and Madrugar - TINY step above standard Gunnlogi and Madrugar.
Slight CPU/PG advantage (I can't remember which, but it's a tiny advantage). That's it. The lack of skill requirements doesn't make a huge difference. The advantage for fitting needs to be removed, but the devs have mentioned they're fixing any pay-to-win items (even just ones with better fitting stats) to be in line with the ISK versions. |
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