Sickening that when someone raises a point in strong objection, others that disagree demand that player to be banned!

The so-called trolling is a sarcastic vent. The game became terrible to play for anyone and EVERYONE that isn't an Assault!

Is understanding that so hard, to the point that when someone complains it's considered trolling to a ban-able degree?

The threads are turning into troll threads because the niche players, nearly ALL of them, have already presented the facts in a logical calm manner. No need for me to list the links here.

The numbers are out on the AR and the Assault suit.
Range. DPS. Damage mods. HP totals. Etc.

No matter how much you raise the SP requirement, or how many times you require the mouse to spin the wheel; If the Assault suit and AR are allowed to even approximate their current performance here in Chromosome, the game will inevitably break, again, in Uprising.

It doesn't matter how many stairs you put in the stairwell. EVERYONE knows the performance of the Chromosome Assault. It's a greater menace than the Replication Heavy or the Mordu's Trials Scout.

If the Assault retains it's Chromosome performance in any way shape or form in Uprising. Everything that happened here in Chromosome is doomed to repeat itself.

All the classes from scout to tanks are being nerfed HARD like no other build before while the assult class is being rewarded for continuing to be the OP bastard/bully/object of affection of AR14. Scout cant fit anything without having to spend an obcene amount of SP AND sacrifice gear, the heavy is becoming useless, the Logi wont be able to take advantage of its gear, tanks are become weaker red line pussys while the assult class grows. There is no way that CCP is accidently nerfing LITERALLY every single other class in the game and favoring assult. CCP is deffinetly up to something and its not right. Say that Uprising is just around the corner but factual math is there and all the vets are consistantly drawing the same conclusions. Listen to this guy, he is awsome



Dust is loosing its diversity and class structure. At this rate all that will be left is assults and the AR will be the only viable weapon, no specialization IN THE GAME can compare to even an aspect of the assult class and CCP made sure of it with new assult suits that do diffrent things and nerfing important traits about the other classes that make them a class all together. Looking at the history of AR14, the assult rifle nor its suit has /never/ been targeted for a nerf and instead /a;ways/ buffed and concurred the quantity of the battlefeild, more than 12 months consistantly. It is apperant that ccp WANTS to make assult the best. There is no insentive to play anything but assult

Don't tell me the QQ coalition is looking to make a comeback?

Damn right its QQ. its QQ to make this game fun and fix its promblems. Were beta testers right? well im trying and ill QQ untill something happens. The diffrence between my QQ is im trying to make a diffrence

Damn right its QQ. its QQ to make this game fun and fix its promblems. Were beta testers right? well im trying and ill QQ untill something happens. The diffrence between my QQ is im trying to make a diffrence

Always good to hear maple core speak. I chose the Assault every build due to the proto being op in all honesty. Now that I am tired of going into most rounds not really having fun....the laser rifle was only a hobby that I found out of boredom, I am going logi this build. I am not going to be following heavies around sniffing booty with a repper, yet playing the combat logi. I think in on aspect the heavy will be in good shape due to the HMG being the main wepon,and only having to skill into the HMG's skills such as rapid reload etc....but I feel you on the assault and the AR. It is the bread and butter of this game.

All the classes from scout to tanks are being nerfed HARD like no other build before while the assult class is being rewarded for continuing to be the OP bastard/bully/object of affection of AR14. Scout cant fit anything without having to spend an obcene amount of SP AND sacrifice gear, the heavy is becoming useless, the Logi wont be able to take advantage of its gear, tanks are become weaker red line pussys while the assult class grows. There is no way that CCP is accidently nerfing LITERALLY every single other class in the game and favoring assult. CCP is deffinetly up to something and its not right. Say that Uprising is just around the corner but factual math is there and all the vets are consistantly drawing the same conclusions. Listen to this guy, he is awsome



Dust is loosing its diversity and class structure. At this rate all that will be left is assults and the AR will be the only viable weapon, no specialization IN THE GAME can compare to even an aspect of the assult class and CCP made sure of it with new assult suits that do diffrent things and nerfing important traits about the other classes that make them a class all together. Looking at the history of AR14, the assult rifle nor its suit has /never/ been targeted for a nerf and instead /a;ways/ buffed and concurred the quantity of the battlefeild, more than 12 months consistantly. It is apperant that ccp WANTS to make assult the best. There is no insentive to play anything but assult. There are dozens of ppl making "truces" in a FPS to not shoot each other cuz their class is no longer competive. You shoot ppl in FPS this is not healthy for a game at all. Heres SOME proof https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72480&find=unread

Damn right its QQ. its QQ to make this game fun and fix its promblems. Were beta testers right? well im trying and ill QQ untill something happens. The diffrence between my QQ is im trying to make a diffrence

I don't envy Mavado having to deal with you if you do this on comms.

Keep it up - only a so many more hours till your no longer a beta tester.

I didn't read, will come back once I HAVE PLAYED THE NEW BUILD like the rest of you should before making conspiracy threads.

Its what happens when Heavys and Tanks are the top killers of the game. It takes more then 2 people to take them out.

I didn't read, will come back once I HAVE PLAYED THE NEW BUILD like the rest of you should before making conspiracy threads.

Yea.same.What Gives, U Folks The rigth. Calling Statements As facts. Ranting Like Pidgons On crack
If Ya Didnt Know. They Are Gonna Do More Changes. In Da future Builds...

Yea.same.What Gives, U Folks The rigth. Calling Statements As facts. Ranting Like Pidgons On crack
If Ya Didnt Know. They Are Gonna Do More Changes. In Da future Builds...

TL;DR

From the Title I can assume this is another QQ thread about the build before playing the build though.

I didn't read, will come back once I HAVE PLAYED THE NEW BUILD like the rest of you should before making conspiracy threads.

just pointing it out, but AR's got a huge nerf at the VERY BEGINNING of cromosome. They were ungodly OP then, now they are... well, let's just say they are less than they were, just to avoid direct arguments. They HAVE been targeted by a nerf, one which removed the OP unflinching scope on all AR's and added recoil to EVERY AR, something they never had before. And just to kick it when it was down, they took around a 5 point drop in DPR.

Now you might say, "yeah that was just dropping of it's excessive OPness", but that's just it, that is a HUGE nerf. Imagine if ANY weapon got hurt THAT badly by a nerf. Prolly the only thing in this whole game that got hit harder than AR's was prolly the missile turrets.

At the beginning of Chromosome people started speccing into other things because the AR had been hit so hard, and yet AR devotee's adapted to the new specs and overcame them. Once they could use them properly again, we heard the cries of OP ringing through the hills again.

The problem isn't that AR's are OP. The problem is that almost EVERYONE uses them. If everyone used mass drivers as much as they currently use AR's, I guarantee you this would be a "nerf MD's" thread instead of a "nerf AR's" thread. It's not the weapon that is the problem, it's that many AR's plus a few specialized weapons spread in makes a good team.

They are abundant because an AR is easy to pick up when coming off of other FPS games, and the sheer number of noobs coming in and picking it up is amazingly high since there are no starter fits with specialized weapons on them to try out. When I play RPG's, I go with swords first 'cause it's what I'm used to in other games and it's always readily available from the start. When I play FPS, "oh, hey, what kinda AR's do they got for a beginner?".

Rather than nerfing things further, thereby further flattening the game, I think we'd be better served by putting special weapons on all starter fits in order to introduce new players to the game's weapons from the start. A laser on an assault starter, a MD on a logi starter, an HMG on a heavy starter & an AR on a crappy scout suit to deter use ;). Introduce the nu-tu-u weapons to them early on and we'd prolly see more diversity.




Just remember, one weapon may kill you more than any other, but when it's pretty much the only weapon being used, it's kinda hard for it not too.

I don't envy Mavado having to deal with you if you do this on comms.