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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.05 20:31:00 -
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Why no nukes? I want to set a timer that goes beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep KABOOOM |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force
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Posted - 2013.05.05 22:10:00 -
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Just wait for battleship-sized weapons doing orbital strikes. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.05 22:10:00 -
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We need Citadel torpedoes raining down onto the field.
I mean, it would be like watching a snail fall from the sky with a parachute, but still. |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
339
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Posted - 2013.05.05 22:12:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Just wait for battleship-sized weapons doing orbital strikes. Not even capital-class turrets fire the equivalent of nukes. The closest thing is probably a doomsday weapon from a Titan. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 23:37:00 -
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A mini-nuke can be a Minmatar strike. Could have a nice mushroom cloud after-effect. |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.05 23:52:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:A mini-nuke can be a Minmatar strike. Could have a nice mushroom cloud after-effect. Mushroom clouds aren't specific to nuclear weapons, just really, really big explosions. The smallest real-world nuke had an area of effect longer than its maximum firing range. |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force
12
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Posted - 2013.05.06 00:05:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:Just wait for battleship-sized weapons doing orbital strikes. Not even capital-class turrets fire the equivalent of nukes. The closest thing is probably a doomsday weapon from a Titan.
You...you're joking, right?
We CURRENTLY have artilley-fired nuclear shells, like the W33 203mm shell. It has a yeild of 40 kilotons. The largest frigate sized autocannon in EVE is 200mm, and there is nuclear ammo available for it. The goddamn thing fires BURSTS of these shells.
Or the real-life 280mm nuclear howitzer. That was an earlier model though, and only had a 15kt blast. There is also a 280mm frigate sized artilley piece.
Now take those concepts and add extremely futuristic technology.
Hell, in EVE lore it's stated that a battleship's 425mm railguns firing antimatter canisters could wipe out a small city in a single volley.
Capital weaponry, you're looking at things like the dual 1000mm railguns, or 3500mm QUAD artilley. Imagine a futuristic nuke in a 3.5m wide shell. 100 megaton yeild? 200? more? Hard to say, but far more destructive than anything we can presently imagine.
I don't know where you get your extremely flawed info from, but you should refrain from posting about things you have no knowledge about.
And also, the last time a doomsday weapon was activated in a planets atmosphere, it ENDED life on the planet. |
Levi McDaniel
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.06 00:20:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:Just wait for battleship-sized weapons doing orbital strikes. Not even capital-class turrets fire the equivalent of nukes. The closest thing is probably a doomsday weapon from a Titan. You...you're joking, right? We CURRENTLY have artilley-fired nuclear shells, like the W33 203mm shell. It has a yeild of 40 kilotons. The largest frigate sized autocannon in EVE is 200mm, and there is nuclear ammo available for it. The goddamn thing fires BURSTS of these shells. Or the real-life 280mm nuclear howitzer. That was an earlier model though, and only had a 15kt blast. There is also a 280mm frigate sized artilley piece. Now take those concepts and add extremely futuristic technology. Hell, in EVE lore it's stated that a battleship's 425mm railguns firing antimatter canisters could wipe out a small city in a single volley. Capital weaponry, you're looking at things like the dual 1000mm railguns, or 3500mm QUAD artilley. Imagine a futuristic nuke in a 3.5m wide shell. 100 megaton yeild? 200? more? Hard to say, but far more destructive than anything we can presently imagine. I don't know where you get your extremely flawed info from, but you should refrain from posting about things you have no knowledge about. And also, the last time a doomsday weapon was activated in a planets atmosphere, it ENDED life on the planet.
Thank you for explaining that so I didn't have to. We've had nuclear projectiles on EVE for a while.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Artillery_Cannon |
KA24DERT
Not Guilty EoN.
22
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:32:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:Just wait for battleship-sized weapons doing orbital strikes. Not even capital-class turrets fire the equivalent of nukes. The closest thing is probably a doomsday weapon from a Titan. You...you're joking, right? We CURRENTLY have artilley-fired nuclear shells, like the W33 203mm shell. It has a yeild of 40 kilotons. The largest frigate sized autocannon in EVE is 200mm, and there is nuclear ammo available for it. The goddamn thing fires BURSTS of these shells. Or the real-life 280mm nuclear howitzer. That was an earlier model though, and only had a 15kt blast. There is also a 280mm frigate sized artilley piece. Now take those concepts and add extremely futuristic technology. Hell, in EVE lore it's stated that a battleship's 425mm railguns firing antimatter canisters could wipe out a small city in a single volley. Capital weaponry, you're looking at things like the dual 1000mm railguns, or 3500mm QUAD artilley. Imagine a futuristic nuke in a 3.5m wide shell. 100 megaton yeild? 200? more? Hard to say, but far more destructive than anything we can presently imagine. I don't know where you get your extremely flawed info from, but you should refrain from posting about things you have no knowledge about. And also, the last time a doomsday weapon was activated in a planets atmosphere, it ENDED life on the planet.
Eve already has bombs, and they damage everything within a 30km diameter.
In Space.
In an atmosphere, it would be equivalent to OP's nuke, which is a horrible idea and should never happen. |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
341
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:22:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:Just wait for battleship-sized weapons doing orbital strikes. Not even capital-class turrets fire the equivalent of nukes. The closest thing is probably a doomsday weapon from a Titan. You...you're joking, right? We CURRENTLY have artilley-fired nuclear shells, like the W33 203mm shell. It has a yeild of 40 kilotons. The largest frigate sized autocannon in EVE is 200mm, and there is nuclear ammo available for it. The goddamn thing fires BURSTS of these shells. Or the real-life 280mm nuclear howitzer. That was an earlier model though, and only had a 15kt blast. There is also a 280mm frigate sized artilley piece. Now take those concepts and add extremely futuristic technology. Hell, in EVE lore it's stated that a battleship's 425mm railguns firing antimatter canisters could wipe out a small city in a single volley. Capital weaponry, you're looking at things like the dual 1000mm railguns, or 3500mm QUAD artilley. Imagine a futuristic nuke in a 3.5m wide shell. 100 megaton yeild? 200? more? Hard to say, but far more destructive than anything we can presently imagine. I don't know where you get your extremely flawed info from, but you should refrain from posting about things you have no knowledge about. And also, the last time a doomsday weapon was activated in a planets atmosphere, it ENDED life on the planet. One word. Balance. Also, lore is incredibly inconsistent. A doomsday weapon kills an entire planet's worth of life, but a Titan crashing into it doesn't?
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Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force
13
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:48:00 -
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Yeah, because the titan's reactors detonated in space, and only the front 7km section fell to the planet, a 7km section that weighed considerably less than, say, a 7km meteorite because it was a ship filled with empty space. (Ships aren't solid hunks of metal, you know).
If the entire thing had fallen, and the reactors had exploded in atmosphere, they specifically stated it would have been an extinction-level event.
I think you have some serious misconceptions about large things crashing into planets.
And what does balance have to do with any of this? |
Herrick Arcos
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
90
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Posted - 2013.05.06 04:08:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Yeah, because the titan's reactors detonated in space, and only the front 7km section fell to the planet, a 7km section that weighed considerably less than, say, a 7km meteorite because it was a ship filled with empty space. (Ships aren't solid hunks of metal, you know).
If the entire thing had fallen, and the reactors had exploded in atmosphere, they specifically stated it would have been an extinction-level event.
I think you have some serious misconceptions about large things crashing into planets.
And what does balance have to do with any of this?
By balance, I believe they mean to say that there would be no game when, after the nuke was released, everything on the map was destroyed. A nuke, as was stated, would obliterate every piece of infrastructure, all life and all ability to re-spawn. No ground combat, no vehicular combat, no game. "Yay lets play Dust 514! I just got in game, there goes the nuke, I'm dead, yay that was fun lets get blown up again!" |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
50
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Posted - 2013.05.06 04:23:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:A mini-nuke can be a Minmatar strike. Could have a nice mushroom cloud after-effect. Mushroom clouds aren't specific to nuclear weapons, just really, really big explosions. The smallest real-world nuke had an area of effect longer than its maximum firing range. Wonder who fired it. |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force
13
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Posted - 2013.05.06 05:06:00 -
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@ Herrick
Oh I agree, there are certain issues with having that kind of destructive power in Dust, but that's not what we were arguing about :P
We were talking about the destructive power of starship weaponry in EVE, and how flawed his understanding of it was.
I found another great example of it. In Templar One, a Revelation dreadnought fires its capital-sized beam laser at the planet for a one-second sweep as it flies above a Minmatar base. The beam itself is focused to 15m wide.
The beam leaves a trench almost 200m wide, and the heat and blast wave severely damage objects and kills people over two kilometers away. A SINGLE BEAM, a laser of all things, a focused beam of light from an Amarrian capital laser has this kind of destructive power. It's pretty ridiculous to say that the closest thing to a nuclear weapon in eve is a titan's superweapon. |
Bren Butchman
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
5
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Posted - 2013.05.06 07:29:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:closest thing to a nuclear weapon in eve is a titan's superweapon.
Actually, it isn't. A capital-class weapon in eve is already equivalent to a nuke. A dreadnought-class ship can kill another dreadnought-class ship (in eve) after firing at it for quite some time; on the other hand, a doomsday-class weapon mounted on a titan can (and usually do) one shoot a dreadnought-class ship.
In regard to what it may be a real-life (much smaller) cousin of the discharge of a doomsday-class weapon on a planet, try to read this wikepedia article
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Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force
15
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Posted - 2013.05.06 15:35:00 -
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Bren Butchman wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:closest thing to a nuclear weapon in eve is a titan's superweapon. Actually, it isn't. A capital-class weapon in eve is already equivalent to a nuke. A dreadnought-class ship can kill another dreadnought-class ship (in eve) after firing at it for quite some time; on the other hand, a doomsday-class weapon mounted on a titan can (and usually do) one shoot a dreadnought-class ship. In regard to what it may be a real-life (much smaller) cousin of the discharge of a doomsday-class weapon on a planet, try to read this wikepedia article
Wow, you didn't read ANY of the rest of that post did you, or the previous ones. Hell it looks like you barely read that one sentence. Read the whole thing before taking a few words out of context and making a fool of yourself |
Deskalkulos Ildigan
CrimeWave Syndicate
120
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Posted - 2013.05.06 15:35:00 -
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Bren Butchman wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:closest thing to a nuclear weapon in eve is a titan's superweapon. Actually, it isn't. A capital-class weapon in eve is already equivalent to a nuke. A dreadnought-class ship can kill another dreadnought-class ship (in eve) after firing at it for quite some time; on the other hand, a doomsday-class weapon mounted on a titan can (and usually do) one shoot a dreadnought-class ship. In regard to what it may be a real-life (much smaller) cousin of the discharge of a doomsday-class weapon on a planet, try to read this wikepedia article
You should quote the complete sentence next time: "It's pretty ridiculous to say that the closest thing to a nuclear weapon in eve is a titan's superweapon."
It's pretty ridiculous hints that the author meant that op didn't know his facts when he stated that titan's superweapon is closest to nuke, |
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