DUST Search - What happened to buffing armor?

Free Beers wrote:

I am looking at the skills right here in the ccp data dump for uprising

Basic Armor plates 1x - Small Frame at lvl 3, Med Frame at lvl 4, Large Frame at lvl 5
Advanced Armor plates 1x - Small Frame at lvl 3, Med Frame at lvl 4, Large Frame at lvl 5
Complex Armor plates 1x - Small Frame at lvl 3, Med Frame at lvl 4, Large Frame at lvl 5

Medium Frame Basic Armor plates 3x - Caladari at lvl 1, Minmatar at lvl3, Gallente at lvl4, Amarr at lvl5
Medium Frame Advanced Armor plates 5x - Caladari at lvl 1, Minmatar at lvl3, Gallente at lvl4, Amarr at lvl5
Medium Frame Complex Armor plates 8x - Caladari at lvl 1, Minmatar at lvl3, Gallente at lvl4, Amarr at lvl5

Amarr Medium Frame Basic Armor plates 5x - Standard at lvl1, Advanced at lvl 3, Prototype at lvl 5
Amarr Medium Frame Advanced Armor plates 8x - Standard at lvl1, Advanced at lvl 3, Prototype at lvl 5
Amarr Medium Frame Complex Armor plates 10x - Standard at lvl1, Advanced at lvl 3, Prototype at lvl 5

Amarr Medium Logi Armor Basic plate 6x - Role bonus 5% bonus to sheild recharge rate
Amarr Medium Logi Armor Advanced plate 8x - Role bonus 5% bonus to sheild recharge rate
Amarr Medium Logi Armor Complex plate 10x - Role bonus 5% bonus to sheild recharge rate

Amarr Medium Logi Marauder Basic plate specializtion 12x -Racial bonus 2% Reduction to Movement penalty
Amarr Medium Logi Marauder Advanced plate specializtion 14x -Racial bonus 2% Reduction to Movement penalty
Amarr Medium Logi Marauder Complex plate specializtion 16x -Racial bonus 2% Reduction to Movement penalty

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Deluxe Edition TeamPlayers EoN. 126	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:21:00 - [1] - Quote I thought armow was getting skills that provided reductions to the penalty on run speeds as well as planes that give less of a penalty? I don't see the skill in the released tree nor do i see any new armor modules...
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 69	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:23:00 - [2] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: I thought armow was getting skills that provided reductions to the penalty on run speeds as well as planes that give less of a penalty? I don't see the skill in the released tree nor do i see any new armor modules... Why does Armor have a speed penalty anyway? Even without it, Shields would be superior due to the recharge and recharge rate.
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 399	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:24:00 - [3] - Quote Don't know where you heard that. Uprising Complex Armor Plates give 115HP with -10% speed reduction. Cost is 3945 ISK.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 56	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:29:00 - [4] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: I thought armow was getting skills that provided reductions to the penalty on run speeds as well as planes that give less of a penalty? I don't see the skill in the released tree nor do i see any new armor modules... you're talking about mods that are coming out in the uprising build, but not on may 14th.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 245	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:32:00 - [5] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: I thought armow was getting skills that provided reductions to the penalty on run speeds as well as planes that give less of a penalty? I don't see the skill in the released tree nor do i see any new armor modules... plates with less armor and less penalty(some with no penalty) are coming, that skill you described is not.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 167	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:36:00 - [6] - Quote Listen up!... They also gonna' be increasing the rate at which armor reppers will work. At least that's what I heard from the Locker Room.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 836	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:41:00 - [7] - Quote False. First of all, the new armor modules aren't coming in Uprising, that seems like a common mistake around here. Second, the armor plates are exactly the same as before, with the exception that there is now a skill that increases what armor plates add by 10%. However that skill also exists for extenders so its not much of a buff. Third, armor reps are still exactly the same.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1427	Posted - 2013.05.05 04:10:00 - [8] - Quote I am looking at the skills right here in the ccp data dump for uprising Basic Armor plates 1x - Small Frame at lvl 3, Med Frame at lvl 4, Large Frame at lvl 5 Advanced Armor plates 1x - Small Frame at lvl 3, Med Frame at lvl 4, Large Frame at lvl 5 Complex Armor plates 1x - Small Frame at lvl 3, Med Frame at lvl 4, Large Frame at lvl 5 Medium Frame Basic Armor plates 3x - Caladari at lvl 1, Minmatar at lvl3, Gallente at lvl4, Amarr at lvl5 Medium Frame Advanced Armor plates 5x - Caladari at lvl 1, Minmatar at lvl3, Gallente at lvl4, Amarr at lvl5 Medium Frame Complex Armor plates 8x - Caladari at lvl 1, Minmatar at lvl3, Gallente at lvl4, Amarr at lvl5 Amarr Medium Frame Basic Armor plates 5x - Standard at lvl1, Advanced at lvl 3, Prototype at lvl 5 Amarr Medium Frame Advanced Armor plates 8x - Standard at lvl1, Advanced at lvl 3, Prototype at lvl 5 Amarr Medium Frame Complex Armor plates 10x - Standard at lvl1, Advanced at lvl 3, Prototype at lvl 5 Amarr Medium Logi Armor Basic plate 6x - Role bonus 5% bonus to sheild recharge rate Amarr Medium Logi Armor Advanced plate 8x - Role bonus 5% bonus to sheild recharge rate Amarr Medium Logi Armor Complex plate 10x - Role bonus 5% bonus to sheild recharge rate Amarr Medium Logi Marauder Basic plate specializtion 12x -Racial bonus 2% Reduction to Movement penalty Amarr Medium Logi Marauder Advanced plate specializtion 14x -Racial bonus 2% Reduction to Movement penalty Amarr Medium Logi Marauder Complex plate specializtion 16x -Racial bonus 2% Reduction to Movement penalty
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3858	Posted - 2013.05.05 04:14:00 - [9] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: I thought armow was getting skills that provided reductions to the penalty on run speeds as well as planes that give less of a penalty? I don't see the skill in the released tree nor do i see any new armor modules... The Ferroscale Plate is not in yet.
Deluxe Edition TeamPlayers EoN. 126	Posted - 2013.05.05 04:17:00 - [10] - Quote Is this coming on the 5/14 release? It sounded imminent from the round tables and keynotes at fanfest.

Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 474	Posted - 2013.05.05 04:49:00 - [11] - Quote The "near future" time table at fanfest is the next 12 months. New plates will probably be in next build, also known as the first expansion after launch in 3-6 months. Probably be closer to 3 unless we break/find bug they need to divert teams to fix in uprising. The logi bonus and amarr/gallente suits will make armour tanking more viable and the scrambler rifle will make shields less viable. It may still favor shields for time being though, more changes coming in future.
La Fortune Terranauts 91	Posted - 2013.05.05 05:46:00 - [12] - Quote So the new armour modules coming soon (not tm): Ferroscale plates - Less HP than current plates but no speed penalty Reactive plates - Plates and armour repper in one module, but even less HP than Ferroscale plates I know we're used to getting shiny things in every build while in beta, but now we're getting the release build, a stable platform to build the game on, there's a good chance that we'll have these modules streamed to us before then, along with the other assault rifles, equipment and possibly even more dropsuits.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 841	Posted - 2013.05.05 13:07:00 - [13] - Quote La Fortune wrote: So the new armour modules coming soon (not tm): Ferroscale plates - Less HP than current plates but no speed penalty Reactive plates - Plates and armour repper in one module, but even less HP than Ferroscale plates I know we're used to getting shiny things in every build while in beta, but now we're getting the release build, a stable platform to build the game on, there's a good chance that we'll have these modules streamed to us before then, along with the other assault rifles, equipment and possibly even more dropsuits. I'm not asking for a new module. I'm asking for them to buff armor, which is just changing numbers on a spreadsheet -_-
Big miku Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 131	Posted - 2013.05.05 13:11:00 - [14] - Quote But CCP did buff armor, you can now wear more of it on some suits huehuehue
mikegunnz Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 563	Posted - 2013.05.05 13:57:00 - [15] - Quote Free Beers wrote: I am looking at the skills right here in the ccp data dump for uprising Basic Armor plates 1x - Small Frame at lvl 3, Med Frame at lvl 4, Large Frame at lvl 5 Advanced Armor plates 1x - Small Frame at lvl 3, Med Frame at lvl 4, Large Frame at lvl 5 Complex Armor plates 1x - Small Frame at lvl 3, Med Frame at lvl 4, Large Frame at lvl 5 Medium Frame Basic Armor plates 3x - Caladari at lvl 1, Minmatar at lvl3, Gallente at lvl4, Amarr at lvl5 Medium Frame Advanced Armor plates 5x - Caladari at lvl 1, Minmatar at lvl3, Gallente at lvl4, Amarr at lvl5 Medium Frame Complex Armor plates 8x - Caladari at lvl 1, Minmatar at lvl3, Gallente at lvl4, Amarr at lvl5 Amarr Medium Frame Basic Armor plates 5x - Standard at lvl1, Advanced at lvl 3, Prototype at lvl 5 Amarr Medium Frame Advanced Armor plates 8x - Standard at lvl1, Advanced at lvl 3, Prototype at lvl 5 Amarr Medium Frame Complex Armor plates 10x - Standard at lvl1, Advanced at lvl 3, Prototype at lvl 5 Amarr Medium Logi Armor Basic plate 6x - Role bonus 5% bonus to sheild recharge rate Amarr Medium Logi Armor Advanced plate 8x - Role bonus 5% bonus to sheild recharge rate Amarr Medium Logi Armor Complex plate 10x - Role bonus 5% bonus to sheild recharge rate Amarr Medium Logi Marauder Basic plate specializtion 12x -Racial bonus 2% Reduction to Movement penalty Amarr Medium Logi Marauder Advanced plate specializtion 14x -Racial bonus 2% Reduction to Movement penalty Amarr Medium Logi Marauder Complex plate specializtion 16x -Racial bonus 2% Reduction to Movement penalty If you skill the complex plate spec skill all the way to 5 (which would be VERY SP intensive, given the 16x requirement) .... You get a 10% total movement penalty reduction, to the 10% movement penalty that a complex plate hits you with. So if I'm interpreting this correctly, that means that the complex plate would only penalize you with a 9% movement penalty?!? Aside from the Repper rate being buffed, armor still sounds gimped to me. IMO, it should be a 10% reduction to movement penalty PER LEVEL. This way, there would actually be a NOTICEABLE improvement to you movement with plates on... especially after dumping MILLIONS of SP to get this skill to level 5.


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