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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.05.05 10:57:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Quote:*IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted.
Merc pack refunded in full after each chara reset and for commercial release
The 14th is commercial release but also you will be refunded the merc pack back because you are also getting a chara reset aswell
CCP gives you the merc pack back, but you get a full chara reset for commercial release
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.05.05 11:15:00 -
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It just happens that the chara reset happens on the same day as the commercial release when you get your merc pack back |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.05.05 11:24:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:It just happens that the chara reset happens on the same day as the commercial release when you get your merc pack back Source that says everyone's getting reset and not just the people who opt in for a reset to get their stuff back? Because until that's confirmed, this is still a forced reset in exchange for something we were promised on purchase of the Merc Pack, which goes against the condition that "no other refund is permitted".
Its not a forced reset
Its an agreement, it just happens that commercial release means a reset for you to claim back the merc packs, you are getting the refund of the merc pack back
I dont have to claim my merc packs back because i didnt play internet lawyer and im happy with what i have |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.05.05 12:22:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:It just happens that the chara reset happens on the same day as the commercial release when you get your merc pack back Source that says everyone's getting reset and not just the people who opt in for a reset to get their stuff back? Because until that's confirmed, this is still a forced reset in exchange for something we were promised on purchase of the Merc Pack, which goes against the condition that "no other refund is permitted". Its not a forced reset Its an agreement, it just happens that commercial release means a reset for you to claim back the merc packs, you are getting the refund of the merc pack back I dont have to claim my merc packs back because i didnt play internet lawyer and im happy with what i have I still have everything that I might have wanted back. I'm not losing or gaining anything by pushing for this. I'm pressing the point because this ISN'T the deal that was agreed to on purchase. What I'm asking for - and I'm not alone, in spite of some people seeming to think otherwise (I shouldn't have to say this when there have been several posters showing up supporting my argument) - is for CCP to actually honour the agreement they made. That's all. The current proposal is NOT what they agreed to when we gave them our money. Simple. You'll notice I said "a forced reset IN EXCHANGE FOR SOMETHING WE WERE PROMISED" not just that it's a forced reset. If we want what was ORGIINALLY SPECIFIED AS PART OF THE DEAL WE PAID FOR, we have to take a reset that other players aren't subjected to. We either don't get what we paid for, or we lose something we had been offered, and which NON-PAYING CUSTOMERS STILL GET TO KEEP.
Non paying customers didnt buy the merc pack so thats invalid
You were promised a merc pack refund for reset/commercial release and you are getting that
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.05.05 12:38:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:I still have everything that I might have wanted back. I'm not losing or gaining anything by pushing for this. I'm pressing the point because this ISN'T the deal that was agreed to on purchase.
What I'm asking for - and I'm not alone, in spite of some people seeming to think otherwise (I shouldn't have to say this when there have been several posters showing up supporting my argument) - is for CCP to actually honour the agreement they made. That's all. The current proposal is NOT what they agreed to when we gave them our money. Simple.
You'll notice I said "a forced reset IN EXCHANGE FOR SOMETHING WE WERE PROMISED" not just that it's a forced reset. If we want what was ORGIINALLY SPECIFIED AS PART OF THE DEAL WE PAID FOR, we have to take a reset that other players aren't subjected to. We either don't get what we paid for, or we lose something we had been offered, and which NON-PAYING CUSTOMERS STILL GET TO KEEP. Non paying customers didnt buy the merc pack so thats invalid You were promised a merc pack refund for reset/commercial release and you are getting that We were promised a refund at commercial release. We WEREN'T promised a reset at commercial release. Non-paying customers don't have to give something up to keep their SP. People who bought the Merc Pack are being told we can either keep our SP or get the refund of the Merc Pack which they promised us on release. That means they're adding a condition to the refund that wasn't specified at the time of purchase, and which doesn't fit with what was agreed to by CCP at that time.
They have the right to change conditions and it seems a reset is need for those who want merc packs back because CCP cannot calculate how much SP/ISK you gain from using the merc pack and its AUR
Plus now its really sounding like that you want another merc pack without taking a hit in SP or ISK |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.05.05 13:40:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:
What I'm asking for is NOT to get any Boosters refunded. What the OP is asking for is NOT to get any Boosters refunded. We aren't asking for double the SP gains. We're asking for a FAIR solution that honours the agreement made without punishing paying customers for supporting a game before it was anywhere near ready for release.
The current solution is precisely fair. You can get everything back and start the newly released game from scratch like everyone else who wasn't in a beta -- as was promised. Or, you can quit crying and decide you'd rather forgo the refund and keep the SP you gained during beta. Except that's NOT what was promised. We weren't promised a conditional refund that requires us to lose progress other players get to keep.
They didnt get the merc pack or are not playing internet lawyer and are happy with the SP/ISK
You have a choice, CCP has given you a choice for everyone who bought that merc pack
You are still asking for another merc pack without taking a hit to your chara |
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