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Jimbeezy
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
239
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:30:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Jimbeezy wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Seems like he was victim of the "elitist" nature of the game. People also think EVE is hard, and most feel discouraged by that idea to the point, that when they give it a try, they feel like whatever they do won't be affect anyone in any way... wouldn't that the same would happen in DUST.
Or maybe he is too much of a casual player. Dust is not for the casual player and when I hear CCP trying to target that audience I laugh. Nothing about dust is casual and every bit of it is for a hard core audience. CCP needs to just except it and target the FPS players who are craving for more then just a pointless match. But what about us mmo guys who want more than lightning bolts and swords? That's the issue. This game cannot appeal to only hardcore fps players..
Well lets hope they have good marketing because I have personally shown dust to 7 rl friends of mine which are casual gamers and its just too much for them or they just want to push a button and play a match with a simple amount of weapons. For anyone to get a grip on this game you have to invest a lot of time and effort into it. MMO players have no problem doing this because thats what they have been doing anyway. It's the casual fps players that are not showing up and staying. |
Byozuma Kegawa
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
2
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:32:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I am playing a round of ambush, and everyone on the red team quits besides one guy. Instead of killing him mercilessly, I got my squad to stop shooting him and then gave him my tank. We spent the rest of the round running around in LAVs giving him stuff to shoot at. Afterwards, I sent him a squad invite and he declined with this response:
"I don't play often enough to matter"
It broke my heart that this is how new players feel. Honestly, I can relate to that poor guy. I don't like to leave a match I'm in just cause things are going south. Makes the time I'd devoted to the match seem a waste. I'd probably have never joined a corp, either, if someone I knew from ACV hadn't invited me. And yes, I am a casual player. I don't play for the 'srs bsns', I play to have a bit of mindless fun. I'm going to miss the fun part when friendly fire goes live... |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
355
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:35:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Jimbeezy wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Seems like he was victim of the "elitist" nature of the game. People also think EVE is hard, and most feel discouraged by that idea to the point, that when they give it a try, they feel like whatever they do won't be affect anyone in any way... wouldn't that the same would happen in DUST.
Or maybe he is too much of a casual player. Dust is not for the casual player and when I hear CCP trying to target that audience I laugh. Nothing about dust is casual and every bit of it is for a hard core audience. CCP needs to just except it and target the FPS players who are craving for more then just a pointless match. But what about us mmo guys who want more than lightning bolts and swords? That's the issue. This game cannot appeal to only hardcore fps players..
Let me get this straight.... you have a lightning bolt sword... where the **** is that skill? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
54
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:35:00 -
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Jimbeezy wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Jimbeezy wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Seems like he was victim of the "elitist" nature of the game. People also think EVE is hard, and most feel discouraged by that idea to the point, that when they give it a try, they feel like whatever they do won't be affect anyone in any way... wouldn't that the same would happen in DUST.
Or maybe he is too much of a casual player. Dust is not for the casual player and when I hear CCP trying to target that audience I laugh. Nothing about dust is casual and every bit of it is for a hard core audience. CCP needs to just except it and target the FPS players who are craving for more then just a pointless match. But what about us mmo guys who want more than lightning bolts and swords? That's the issue. This game cannot appeal to only hardcore fps players.. Well lets hope they have good marketing because I have personally shown dust to 7 rl friends of mine which are casual gamers and its just too much for them or they just want to push a button and play a match with a simple amount of weapons. For anyone to get a grip on this game you have to invest a lot of time and effort into it. MMO players have no problem doing this because thats what they have been doing anyway. It's the casual fps players that are not showing up and staying.
I showed it to 5 HARDCORE FPS buddies of mine, and they laughed. .......I find that it's more tough to get the CORE FPS here then casuals. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
179
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:37:00 -
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Why did they laugh? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
54
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:42:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:Why did they laugh?
Cause they said "Dust? Nothing but DCUO clans on there. and they probably think they are the best. Any SOCOM elite clans playing dust?"
I told there are some mag players. They didn't think so. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1409
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:42:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Front lines isn't my thing in this game. But I see new berries getting slaughter, BUT not giving up. I jump in the front with them. I call lavs for them. Throw out more spawn (then I usually do) For them to either escape or flank. If they are putting an effort but getting slapped by obvious better gear. I'm gonna try and give them a hand.
What kills me is he was made to feel so worthless that he didn't think he was worth simply socializing with. |
des polo
The Lions Guard
26
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:44:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:DigiOps wrote:Why did they laugh? Cause they said "Dust? Nothing but DCUO clans on there. and they probably think they are the best. Any SOCOM elite clans playing dust?" I told there are some mag players. They didn't think so. Did you tell them about the SVER truebloods? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
54
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:50:00 -
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des polo wrote:Surt gods end wrote:DigiOps wrote:Why did they laugh? Cause they said "Dust? Nothing but DCUO clans on there. and they probably think they are the best. Any SOCOM elite clans playing dust?" I told there are some mag players. They didn't think so. Did you tell them about the SVER truebloods?
lol It was under "some". But yeah I did. And couple others. Don't think they believe me. "You got planet side 2. And a boat load of FPS AND TEAM FPS out there. Why would they pick dust?" I think is what they would ask. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:52:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Jimbeezy wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Seems like he was victim of the "elitist" nature of the game. People also think EVE is hard, and most feel discouraged by that idea to the point, that when they give it a try, they feel like whatever they do won't be affect anyone in any way... wouldn't that the same would happen in DUST.
Or maybe he is too much of a casual player. Dust is not for the casual player and when I hear CCP trying to target that audience I laugh. Nothing about dust is casual and every bit of it is for a hard core audience. CCP needs to just except it and target the FPS players who are craving for more then just a pointless match. But what about us mmo guys who want more than lightning bolts and swords? That's the issue. This game cannot appeal to only hardcore fps players.. Let me get this straight.... you have a lightning bolt sword... where the **** is that skill?
It came with my merc pack refund.. you didn't get yours? |
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undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
357
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:56:00 -
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@p14gu3
No... im sending a letter to ccp.... and making a qq thread. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:04:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Jimbeezy wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Jimbeezy wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Seems like he was victim of the "elitist" nature of the game. People also think EVE is hard, and most feel discouraged by that idea to the point, that when they give it a try, they feel like whatever they do won't be affect anyone in any way... wouldn't that the same would happen in DUST.
Or maybe he is too much of a casual player. Dust is not for the casual player and when I hear CCP trying to target that audience I laugh. Nothing about dust is casual and every bit of it is for a hard core audience. CCP needs to just except it and target the FPS players who are craving for more then just a pointless match. But what about us mmo guys who want more than lightning bolts and swords? That's the issue. This game cannot appeal to only hardcore fps players.. Well lets hope they have good marketing because I have personally shown dust to 7 rl friends of mine which are casual gamers and its just too much for them or they just want to push a button and play a match with a simple amount of weapons. For anyone to get a grip on this game you have to invest a lot of time and effort into it. MMO players have no problem doing this because thats what they have been doing anyway. It's the casual fps players that are not showing up and staying. I showed it to 5 HARDCORE FPS buddies of mine, and they laughed. .......I find that it's more tough to get the CORE FPS here then casuals.
The few FPS friends I have seem uninterested as well.. seems only my MMO friends are interested. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:05:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:@p14gu3
No... im sending a letter to ccp.... and making a qq thread.
Another thread that would make my day ;) |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
358
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:11:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:@p14gu3
No... im sending a letter to ccp.... and making a qq thread. Another thread that would make my day ;)
Too bad no one besides us would get it... lol |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
188
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:17:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I am playing a round of ambush, and everyone on the red team quits besides one guy. Instead of killing him mercilessly, I got my squad to stop shooting him and then gave him my tank. We spent the rest of the round running around in LAVs giving him stuff to shoot at. Afterwards, I sent him a squad invite and he declined with this response:
"I don't play often enough to matter"
It broke my heart that this is how new players feel.
Umm... ok...
... |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1324
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:45:00 -
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I hate to be the guy that starts something like this, but could the response be a reference to the way imperfects tend to act on the forums? You know, the whole "if you aren't us, you're a nonfactor" campaign. |
William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
329
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:02:00 -
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I doubt a new guy would be on the forums, and if anyone has played with myself or doc they will let you know we are in fact the coolest most helpful people on dust to play with, why you may ask? Because we care. |
VirtualxBucaneer
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:04:00 -
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I think this is going to be pretty normal in high sec battles. COD players and the Casual audience mostly are going to be playing in that mode. |
Garrek Ithalgoh
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:11:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:What? FUN? You will stop this " FUN" business right now and go back to crushing the souls of newbies.
Come on, bro. Open up your eyes to the fact that DUST can be a fun game for everyone. Show your Brightside. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
179
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:14:00 -
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I wonder how many newbies even know how to get to the forums and log in to utilize it...
BTdubs, fun match the other day Will. Not a particularly good one of mine, but that's what I get for soloing and getting sloppy. |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1433
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Posted - 2013.05.05 21:51:00 -
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Another story - pick up a random blue dot, and work really hard to help him stay alive and work towards objectives. This is actually really fun and caused him to dig out his mic. When he turned it on, he disconnected, and we weren't able to get him to rejoin our squad. Another lost blueberry soul |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
99
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Posted - 2013.05.05 21:53:00 -
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This is not a casual game, and CODers know it. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
172
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Posted - 2013.05.05 21:56:00 -
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I had you pegged for a complete douchebag. You just proved me wrong. |
Baal Omniscient
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
477
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Posted - 2013.05.05 21:58:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I am playing a round of ambush, and everyone on the red team quits besides one guy. Instead of killing him mercilessly, I got my squad to stop shooting him and then gave him my tank. We spent the rest of the round running around in LAVs giving him stuff to shoot at. Afterwards, I sent him a squad invite and he declined with this response:
"I don't play often enough to matter"
It broke my heart that this is how new players feel.
That is the saddest Dust related story I have ever heard... ='(
Props for trying to show him a good time. We are all here to have fun, and getting proto romped when you are solo against a whole squad is disheartening even for hardened vets. Respect. |
jin foxdale
Kigurosaka Corporation
3
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Posted - 2013.05.05 23:37:00 -
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Kirin Torch wrote:I find it impressive that he sent a mail first try I end up sending a blank mail first every time
lol, yup. +1 |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1380
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Posted - 2013.05.05 23:53:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I am playing a round of ambush, and everyone on the red team quits besides one guy. Instead of killing him mercilessly, I got my squad to stop shooting him and then gave him my tank. We spent the rest of the round running around in LAVs giving him stuff to shoot at. Afterwards, I sent him a squad invite and he declined with this response:
"I don't play often enough to matter"
It broke my heart that this is how new players feel. I actually felt sad reading that. Those are the kinds of people I pull into my squad in Planetside 2 when I see them getting killed over and over by themselves so I can help them have some fun. |
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