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Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:29:00 -
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if you used the booster in a permanent build with permanent SP, you got the use out of it. You ain't being cheated, you a whiny fourmwhore. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
819
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:29:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:where is my option to ask for my money back? I would gladly erase my character for good and take $40 bucks that they stole from me. Shows you what CCP really is. A bunch of Chinese hackers stealing account numbers from the elderly from across the seas would have more honor.
Since they won't refund cash...
Can I have your stuff? |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
236
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:30:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Yup. CCP is following that to the letter. Sorry, Kobrah. Opt in if you want your merc packs refunded. "and on commercial release" was clearly added ON TOP OF THE RESET STIPULATION, thus implying a reset was not required to get your AUR refunded
CCP changed their mind or figured out they're so bad at english they can't type up a legit terms of purchase and is now bullying PEOPLE WHO PAID MONEY FOR A BETA. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
236
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:31:00 -
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Patoman Radiant wrote:if you used the booster in a permanent build with permanent SP, you got the use out of it. You ain't being cheated, you a whiny fourmwhore. Literally has nothing to do with getting my original terms of purchase honored.
Please stop coming at me with this old, tired argument. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
386
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:31:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Yup. CCP is following that to the letter. Sorry, Kobrah. Opt in if you want your merc packs refunded. Exactly, its right in that link. Please quit this game whoever does not understand that. |
Shyeer Alvarin
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
60
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:32:00 -
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Only one phrase comes to mind when I see all these people whining about wanting free stuff.
"U mad bro?"
I have words for CCP. I bought five merc packs. "Shut up and take my money." I bought stuff. I used stuff. I spent money on boosters. I spent money on AUR items. Does this make me a whiney entitled brat?
Nope.
I got into the beta voluntarily. I spent money voluntarily. I am entitled to exactly -nothing.- |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
236
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:33:00 -
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Shyeer Alvarin wrote:Only one phrase comes to mind when I see all these people whining about wanting free stuff.
"U mad bro?"
I have words for CCP. I bought five merc packs. "Shut up and take my money." I bought stuff. I used stuff. I spent money on boosters. I spent money on AUR items. Does this make me a whiney entitled brat?
Nope. It makes you a childish, sheepish consumer that doesn't care if his terms of purchase are violated, or if CCP bullies you into a corner to make sure you can't avoid lining their pockets with more 20 dollar bills. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
236
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:34:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Yup. CCP is following that to the letter. Sorry, Kobrah. Opt in if you want your merc packs refunded. I can't read or understand basic english. FTFY |
Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
276
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:34:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:where is my option to ask for my money back? I would gladly erase my character for good and take $40 bucks that they stole from me. Shows you what CCP really is. A bunch of Chinese hackers stealing account numbers from the elderly from across the seas would have more honor. Stole from you? You are the one you bought it Now incase you are unfamiliar with the term steal i looked it up for you
1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
i dont recall ccp taking control of your controller and forcing you to buy it and i dont recall them going into your bank accounts and taking your money from there
You had the controller in your hand you wanted to buy aur you knew what you were getting into and now your mad about a choice YOU made
i swear people just find new things to complain about every single day on this forums i hope when i start making games that none of you qqers show up to play it , ill just ban you and be done |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
137
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:34:00 -
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Seriously, CCP has come up with an option that does not involve a reset.
They allow you folks that want a reset to take a reset -- without forcing the rest of us to take a reset.
I applaud them... now, take your reset or don't, just stop crying. |
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Shyeer Alvarin
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
60
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:35:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Shyeer Alvarin wrote:Only one phrase comes to mind when I see all these people whining about wanting free stuff.
"U mad bro?"
I have words for CCP. I bought five merc packs. "Shut up and take my money." I bought stuff. I used stuff. I spent money on boosters. I spent money on AUR items. Does this make me a whiney entitled brat?
Nope. It makes you a childish, sheepish consumer that doesn't care if his terms of purchase are violated, or if CCP bullies you into a corner to make sure you can't avoid lining their pockets with more 20 dollar bills. I don't -have- to spend a dime on DUST. I do because I enjoy the game. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
386
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:36:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Yup. CCP is following that to the letter. Sorry, Kobrah. Opt in if you want your merc packs refunded. I can't read or understand basic english. FTFY You should be banned for falsely quoting me. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
236
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:36:00 -
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Shyeer Alvarin wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Shyeer Alvarin wrote:Only one phrase comes to mind when I see all these people whining about wanting free stuff.
"U mad bro?"
I have words for CCP. I bought five merc packs. "Shut up and take my money." I bought stuff. I used stuff. I spent money on boosters. I spent money on AUR items. Does this make me a whiney entitled brat?
Nope. It makes you a childish, sheepish consumer that doesn't care if his terms of purchase are violated, or if CCP bullies you into a corner to make sure you can't avoid lining their pockets with more 20 dollar bills. I don't -have- to spend a dime on DUST. I do because I enjoy the game. Good for you, what does this have to do with CCP honoring the original terms of purchase? |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
236
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:37:00 -
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LOL UR BANNED FOR EDITING QUOTES!!!! wrote: You should be banned for falsely quoting me.
There should be a mandatory reading comprehension test before letting people onto the forums to avoid posts like yours. |
Flamesea
Shadow Company HQ
9
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:38:00 -
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This bad PR is not going to work here in forums.. CCP dont talk with us here. Forums arent public enough.. more like Facebook, twitter , game sites, Sonys site.. get information out there whe possible new players/consumers are. |
Shyeer Alvarin
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
60
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:39:00 -
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I feel like I'm one of the precious few people that read the TOS for the beta stating that as beta testers, we are do not have entitlements. We are volunteers. If you spent money, that was your choice. CCP didn't make the choice for you. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:43:00 -
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Shyeer Alvarin wrote:I feel like I'm one of the precious few people that read the TOS for the beta stating that as beta testers, we are do not have entitlements. We are volunteers. If you spent money, that was your choice. CCP didn't make the choice for you. Are you really this brainwashed? consumers have rights too, don't feel like you're entitled to nothing and powerless against any company. |
Yay Adski
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
217
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:44:00 -
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Shyeer Alvarin wrote:I feel like I'm one of the precious few people that read the TOS for the beta stating that as beta testers, we are do not have entitlements. We are volunteers. If you spent money, that was your choice. CCP didn't make the choice for you. Well originally you either got selected or you bought a merc pack to get into the beta. Plenty went with the latter. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
386
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:44:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Shyeer Alvarin wrote:I feel like I'm one of the precious few people that read the TOS for the beta stating that as beta testers, we are do not have entitlements. We are volunteers. If you spent money, that was your choice. CCP didn't make the choice for you. Are you really this brainwashed? consumers have rights too, don't feel like you're entitled to nothing and powerless against any company. You have no rights, and you agreed to that. Spend money suing please, do it. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
139
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:45:00 -
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Flamesea wrote:This bad PR is not going to work here in forums.. CCP dont talk with us here. Forums arent public enough.. more like Facebook, twitter , game sites, Sonys site.. get information out there whe possible new players/consumers are.
Yeah, if only it wasn't misinformation.
You can get your reset/refund if you wish. You are simply mad that other people are not forced to give up their SP along with you if you choose a reset.
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:47:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Shyeer Alvarin wrote:I feel like I'm one of the precious few people that read the TOS for the beta stating that as beta testers, we are do not have entitlements. We are volunteers. If you spent money, that was your choice. CCP didn't make the choice for you. Are you really this brainwashed? consumers have rights too, don't feel like you're entitled to nothing and powerless against any company. You have no rights, and you agreed to that. Spend money suing please, do it. Nowhere in the merc pack does it say I waive my consumer rights...that would never hold up in court anyways.
i'm not spending money to sue anyone, i'll do this the free way: protest and filing complaints en-masse until someone higher up does something about it.
are you 12? do you not know how the world works? people get sued for thousands of dollars for a much smaller offense than this on a daily basis. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
388
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:49:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Jin Robot wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Shyeer Alvarin wrote:I feel like I'm one of the precious few people that read the TOS for the beta stating that as beta testers, we are do not have entitlements. We are volunteers. If you spent money, that was your choice. CCP didn't make the choice for you. Are you really this brainwashed? consumers have rights too, don't feel like you're entitled to nothing and powerless against any company. You have no rights, and you agreed to that. Spend money suing please, do it. Nowhere in the merc pack does it say I waive my consumer rights...that would never hold up in court anyways. i'm not spending money to sue anyone, i'll do this the free way: protest and filing complaints en-masse until someone higher up does something about it. are you 12? do you not know how the world works? people get sued for thousands of dollars for a much smaller offense than this on a daily basis. I wholeheartedly agree you should spend time working on that. I know how it will turn out, and plus maybe you will be to busy to breed. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:50:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Jin Robot wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Shyeer Alvarin wrote:I feel like I'm one of the precious few people that read the TOS for the beta stating that as beta testers, we are do not have entitlements. We are volunteers. If you spent money, that was your choice. CCP didn't make the choice for you. Are you really this brainwashed? consumers have rights too, don't feel like you're entitled to nothing and powerless against any company. You have no rights, and you agreed to that. Spend money suing please, do it. Nowhere in the merc pack does it say I waive my consumer rights...that would never hold up in court anyways. i'm not spending money to sue anyone, i'll do this the free way: protest and filing complaints en-masse until someone higher up does something about it. are you 12? do you not know how the world works? people get sued for thousands of dollars for a much smaller offense than this on a daily basis. I wholeheartedly agree you should spend time working on that. I know how it will turn out, and plus maybe you will be to busy to breed.
i instantly like this guy :) |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
124
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:50:00 -
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I've said it in other threads, but I think the choice being given is going to protect CCP legally. I don't think it protects them from a customer service standpoint.
It's not really a fair choice. And it's not fair to reset everybody. I think the compromise should be a partial refund of AUR spent by all.
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:53:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Jin Robot wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Shyeer Alvarin wrote:I feel like I'm one of the precious few people that read the TOS for the beta stating that as beta testers, we are do not have entitlements. We are volunteers. If you spent money, that was your choice. CCP didn't make the choice for you. Are you really this brainwashed? consumers have rights too, don't feel like you're entitled to nothing and powerless against any company. You have no rights, and you agreed to that. Spend money suing please, do it. Nowhere in the merc pack does it say I waive my consumer rights...that would never hold up in court anyways. i'm not spending money to sue anyone, i'll do this the free way: protest and filing complaints en-masse until someone higher up does something about it. are you 12? do you not know how the world works? people get sued for thousands of dollars for a much smaller offense than this on a daily basis. I wholeheartedly agree you should spend time working on that. I know how it will turn out, and plus maybe you will be to busy to breed. I'll never be too busy to plow your mother, don't worry. |
Malkai Inos
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:09:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I've said it in other threads, but I think the choice being given is going to protect CCP legally. I don't think it protects them from a customer service standpoint.
It's not really a fair choice. And it's not fair to reset everybody. I think the compromise should be a partial refund of AUR spent by all.
I think it is completely fair. Especially for everyone who hasn't bought a merc pack jet. I'd be seriously kittened if some people could safe a ton of isk (by using AUR items), get a bunch of extra SP (through bosters and by better performing due to better gear) and then get another set of boosters gear and AUR.
You bought yourself a tasty cake and now you guys want another one although you already ate the one you paid for. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
175
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:09:00 -
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Every synergy guy I run into is a complete chucklehead.
Please tell me it's not a 100% true statement. You guys must have at least accidentally recruited someone cool at some point?
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
59
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:27:00 -
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LoL |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
128
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:32:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I've said it in other threads, but I think the choice being given is going to protect CCP legally. I don't think it protects them from a customer service standpoint.
It's not really a fair choice. And it's not fair to reset everybody. I think the compromise should be a partial refund of AUR spent by all.
I think it is completely fair. Especially for everyone who hasn't bought a merc pack jet. I'd be seriously kittened if some people could safe a ton of isk (by using AUR items), get a bunch of extra SP (through bosters and by better performing due to better gear) and then get another set of boosters gear and AUR. You bought yourself a tasty cake and now you guys want another one although you already ate the one you paid for. If you can read the Merc pack disclaimer and still have that opinion there is no point debating you. I totally understand your sentiment, but it doesn't change the underlying issue.
These people that are mad about CCP's solution to the poor choice of wording have every right to feel slighted by this choice. I mentioned earlier that I'm a small business owner. I've made mistakes in business. I've had to try and make customers happy after making a mistake. Never has my solution been to go and tear out all of my work from their business and give them their money back. I would try to find some middle ground to make the customer happy so I continue to earn their business.
As for another posters comment for setting a precedent. I don't really see where a similar situation could arise in the future.
All I'm saying is that there should be an olive branch extending to those that are truly unhappy. If they aren't satisfied with getting a partial AUR refund in addition to the market refund then I'd show them the door.
I don't believe going back to zero is a fair compromise after reading the disclaimer again. |
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