DUST Search - Dropship price cuts/increases are pretty much a wash

Skihids wrote:

The price drop we were promised seems to be hit or miss.

The hull prices haven't changed and the Assault is three times the cost of the standard dropship. For that you get less HP and one extra slot to purchase an expensive turret.

Standard - 220,000
Logistics - 461,920
Assault- 669,320

Some modules have had dramatic price cuts and others not so much:

Light Clarity Ward Shield Booster52,480 -> 33,560
Azeotropic Ward Shield Extender39,480 -> 33,560
Local PG Expansion Unit 49,560 -> 12,560
Mobile CRU 86,100 -> 13,800
Active Fuel Injector (AB) 73,000 -> 11,600

Turrets have all doubled in price.

My current Myron fitting:

1 Light Clarity Ward Shield Booster
2 Azeotropic Ward Shield Extenders
1 AB
2 Local PG Expansion Units
2 20GJ Stabilized ION Cannons

will experience a small decrease in fitting cost from 536,760 to 463,760 ISK. It would be a bit cheaper if I didn't go for the proto launchers, but given the base cost of the hull and other modules it doesn't make sense to skimp on the only thing that gets you points and kills the enemy before they have a chance to take you down.

The Assault DS is going to be pricy and even more so if you fit it with proto missile turrets as you have to buy three.

Hull: 669,320
Light CW SB: 33,560
2 Azeotropic Ward SE: 67,120
AB: 11,600
3 XT-1 Accelerated ML 695,640

Total 1,477,240

I believe CCP is trying to encourage us to run run lower tier weapons, but even if we pulled the teeth on the Assault and installed only AT1-Cycled missile launchers the cost is still 939,880 ISK not counting your low slots.

I'm wondering how this could possibly be sustainable.

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Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1238	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:35:00 - [1] - Quote The price drop we were promised seems to be hit or miss. The hull prices haven't changed and the Assault is three times the cost of the standard dropship. For that you get less HP and one extra slot to purchase an expensive turret. Standard - 220,000 Logistics - 461,920 Assault- 669,320 Some modules have had dramatic price cuts and others not so much: Light Clarity Ward Shield Booster52,480 -> 33,560 Azeotropic Ward Shield Extender39,480 -> 33,560 Local PG Expansion Unit 49,560 -> 12,560 Mobile CRU 86,100 -> 13,800 Active Fuel Injector (AB) 73,000 -> 11,600 Turrets have all doubled in price. My current Myron fitting: 1 Light Clarity Ward Shield Booster 2 Azeotropic Ward Shield Extenders 1 AB 2 Local PG Expansion Units 2 20GJ Stabilized ION Cannons will experience a small decrease in fitting cost from 536,760 to 463,760 ISK. It would be a bit cheaper if I didn't go for the proto launchers, but given the base cost of the hull and other modules it doesn't make sense to skimp on the only thing that gets you points and kills the enemy before they have a chance to take you down. The Assault DS is going to be pricy and even more so if you fit it with proto missile turrets as you have to buy three. Hull: 669,320 Light CW SB: 33,560 2 Azeotropic Ward SE: 67,120 AB: 11,600 3 XT-1 Accelerated ML 695,640 Total 1,477,240 I believe CCP is trying to encourage us to run run lower tier weapons, but even if we pulled the teeth on the Assault and installed only AT1-Cycled missile launchers the cost is still 939,880 ISK not counting your low slots. I'm wondering how this could possibly be sustainable.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 272	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:40:00 - [2] - Quote This data must be incomplete because the patch noted specifically said that the dropship themselves would have price cut aprox in half. So standard should be 110k and assault about 330k.
Epicsting pro Planetary Response Organization 11	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:42:00 - [3] - Quote I don't thank assault ds are ment for pub games pc is were you will see them, that the only reason to run them.
Geth Massredux Defensores Doctrina 227	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:44:00 - [4] - Quote Skihids wrote: The price drop we were promised seems to be hit or miss. The hull prices haven't changed and the Assault is three times the cost of the standard dropship. For that you get less HP and one extra slot to purchase an expensive turret. Standard - 220,000 Logistics - 461,920 Assault- 669,320 Some modules have had dramatic price cuts and others not so much: Light Clarity Ward Shield Booster52,480 -> 33,560 Azeotropic Ward Shield Extender39,480 -> 33,560 Local PG Expansion Unit 49,560 -> 12,560 Mobile CRU 86,100 -> 13,800 Active Fuel Injector (AB) 73,000 -> 11,600 Turrets have all doubled in price. My current Myron fitting: 1 Light Clarity Ward Shield Booster 2 Azeotropic Ward Shield Extenders 1 AB 2 Local PG Expansion Units 2 20GJ Stabilized ION Cannons will experience a small decrease in fitting cost from 536,760 to 463,760 ISK. It would be a bit cheaper if I didn't go for the proto launchers, but given the base cost of the hull and other modules it doesn't make sense to skimp on the only thing that gets you points and kills the enemy before they have a chance to take you down. The Assault DS is going to be pricy and even more so if you fit it with proto missile turrets as you have to buy three. Hull: 669,320 Light CW SB: 33,560 2 Azeotropic Ward SE: 67,120 AB: 11,600 3 XT-1 Accelerated ML 695,640 Total 1,477,240 I believe CCP is trying to encourage us to run run lower tier weapons, but even if we pulled the teeth on the Assault and installed only AT1-Cycled missile launchers the cost is still 939,880 ISK not counting your low slots. I'm wondering how this could possibly be sustainable. You realize the game hasn't been released yet so obviously the price can change anytime soon... Calm down dude
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1238	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:49:00 - [5] - Quote I'm not in a panic. I'm a DS pilot after all and we are used to abuse and neglect. I'm hoping that the prices are an error, but why introduce the assault at 670k ISK if it's meant to be lower? The turret prices are probably accurate as we were told they were going up. My thought was that CCP was going to lower the overall cost of flying such that we could lose a bird in a match without going negative. If the costs stay high so must our survivability, and that may precipitate a lot of complaints from AVers who persue us for a whole match and don't manage to take us out. At these costs a ship will have to make it through several matches and that means a bunch of frustrated AV players complaining about our invunrability.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1373	Posted - 2013.05.04 20:06:00 - [6] - Quote Yeah I'm cool with the current costs for the standard and logi hulls, never really bothered me hugely because you'd expect an aircraft to cost a decent amount to field, my problem is the ADS pricing, it's at least 150k too high IMO. I'd be fine with around 500k per hull because its somewhat similar to a logi hull which is in the same tier and it has certain benefits no other dropship has, but 3 times as much as the standard is too much.
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 52	Posted - 2013.05.04 20:21:00 - [7] - Quote I'm rather certain that the standard dropship hull price is going to change until release. However I'm a bit puzzled about the ADS's price. Even if you assume that you'd most likely run only one prototype turret the ship is extremely expensive for what it's going to achieve on the battlefield. I will likely stick with standard or logi dropships until they work out something more interesting. @Skihids: You're right, neither the AVers nor the pilots are having fun when any dropship immediately aborts whatever it was doing at the first sign of hostile activity. It would be more interesting if dropship pilots could financially sustain a more reckless stance on the battlefield.
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1240	Posted - 2013.05.04 21:10:00 - [8] - Quote If the hulls do go half price then a Myron fitted for transport would run about 250k ISK which could be sustainable. Militia turrets would cut costs and eliminate the temptation to engage in battle. With squad size going up I think we can finally be useful for transport and with the price cut it might pay a living wage, assuming we get WP for it. All in all that's a step forward.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2807	Posted - 2013.05.04 21:13:00 - [9] - Quote Literally all I want to know is if Logi ships got a buff to CPU / PG, and it's nowhere to be had Is it the 6th yet?


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