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NIIKIA
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:13:00 -
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free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. |
DeeJay One
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
19
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:15:00 -
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NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit.
Please note that now you have the ability to run two proto suits, you get the basic proto and then the side skill proto (ass or logistics).
So you'll get the basic proto way below the 5mil mark.
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GoD-NoVa
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
283
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:15:00 -
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O_O you agree with beers? this is a sign of dust dying |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:16:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:O_O you agree with beers? this is a sign of dust dying
ikr |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
66
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:16:00 -
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NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit.
How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it |
Llan Heindell
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
37
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:17:00 -
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I'm guessing this is suppose to make it so that even less people can go protostomp pub matches.
And that you really NEED to specialize in one race/weap and such.
It makes sense but it'll change drastically the way the players decide on skills now.
I'm happy with the changes even If I wont be able to use proto anymore. lol
Llan Heindell. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
428
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:17:00 -
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I disagree. If everyone was able to get proto everything in the first two months, that would be boring in my opinion. Variety is the spice of life as they say.
In thinking long term, I am ok with 5m SP for proto suit. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
190
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:18:00 -
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Really for me this is great. IM sitting on 6 mil right now and it means I'll still have something to work for in the future. I dont want simply respec and run with proto weapons and proto dropsuits right off the bat. I want a new challenge with new gear starting from some mid range stand point.
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
428
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:19:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it
^^^ what he said. |
Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
194
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:20:00 -
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The main thing you guys all missed is the 5x multiplier on Electronics and Engineering. Thats killer. |
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
663
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:20:00 -
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Don't forget that Standard and Advanced stuff is getting cheaper while Proto isn't. CCP really, really wants us to save Prototype gear for special occasions, apparently. |
Mark0h
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:23:00 -
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Kleanur Guy wrote:The main thing you guys all missed is the 5x multiplier on Electronics and Engineering. Thats killer.
Gross.... |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
56
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:25:00 -
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I understand the "we cant have what we had concept..." But maybe people will respect proto now, I personally think Proto should be more expensive as well.. IMO It's something that people shouldn't be comfortable rolling out in pub matches unless they see a competitive rival on the other side is using one and he/she wants to wage losing it to shut him/her down.. Then of course in corp matches with reimbursement or the dignity of putting it all on the line for your corp.. etc etc |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
Orion Empire
400
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:26:00 -
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You're talking getting a specialised proto suit right? Because if so, the SP for a basic proto is roughly half that amount, so easily accessible for anyone who's been playing open beta for even a short time. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
240
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:26:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it
Why are 'Neo' Proto Suits still in the game then? |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:30:00 -
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guess your right we will see alot less proto running around for a few months. i'll still have mine tho  |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
67
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:32:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Why are 'Neo' Proto Suits still in the game then?
For obvious reasons. They do look more attractive now, don't they? Good demand control by CCP.... |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:34:00 -
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gonna miss my core gernades tho
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NIIKIA
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:35:00 -
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i wonder if they will increase the weekly cap at all? since they made everything harder to get. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
Red Rock Consortium
545
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:40:00 -
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This just totally detached DUST from EVE as far as SP accrual and skill progression. Hope it doesn't bite them in the butt down the road. Rank 5 for core skills is crazy. Would love to see their reasoning for that. |
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Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty
EoN.
222
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:43:00 -
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Dudebro. Get some commas in that number. I had to one eye it to see it was 5mil and not 52mil. XD
But damn... thats alot. I only have 8 mil so i probably wont be able to get proto suit right off if i allocate everything the right way first. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1117
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:58:00 -
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Going to be a long time for a new player |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1238
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:09:00 -
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We've been playing under a compressed skill tree during beta so we could skill everything to test it.
Remember the 200k SP matches and the 1m bonus SP weekends? CCP has been slowly weaning us off the accelerated advancement track and this is the final step to get us on the release SP/Skill track.
It may be hard to give up, but it's the best for the long term. |
steadyhand amarr
The Red Apple
446
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:18:00 -
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so it takes everyone longer to get the same item. my hart bleeds that you cant run around in proto gear pub stomping heavy forbid you have try and use some form of skill now |
ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:19:00 -
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The qq for this was 3 days agp move on nikiki |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
Orion Empire
401
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:19:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:so it takes everyone longer to get the same item. my hart bleeds that you cant run around in proto gear pub stomping heavy forbid you have try and use some form of skill now
No. The same item would be the basic proto suit, which costs less than 2.5 million SP. The 5 million + SP cost is for a more specialised suit than anything available currently. |
Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
266
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:24:00 -
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Why not wait and see how much sp we get after matches when the new build comes out untill then enough qq |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
834
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:26:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it
Exactly!
Take bf3 (there's that reference AGAIN) as an example. It took people only a couple of months to max everything out and now there's no carrot dangling in front of you to keep playing, it got boring.
I like the whole skill progression in dust, gives you something to work for. And when people see you rockin proto etc they know you put in the time. |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty
EoN.
222
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:26:00 -
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Its whatever. Im still starting 8mil ahead of anyone who hasnt played yet. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
834
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:27:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:Its whatever. Im still starting 8mil ahead of anyone who hasnt played yet.
I only have 4.5mil but I'm happy with that, it's a head start like you said. |
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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
266
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:29:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Exactly! Take bf3 (there's that reference AGAIN) as an example. It took people only a couple of months to max everything out and now there's no carrot dangling in front of you to keep playing, it got boring. I like the whole skill progression in dust, gives you something to work for. And when people see you rockin proto etc they know you put in the time.
This |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty
EoN.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:36:00 -
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I actually didnt get bored of BF3. I got pissed off at how they were handling the game. You think CCP nerfs things hard? lol CCP aint got nothing on DICE. And DICE also still hasnt fixed some major glitches which have been present since it left its "beta". |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:49:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:so it takes everyone longer to get the same item. my hart bleeds that you cant run around in proto gear pub stomping heavy forbid you have try and use some form of skill now
Come on now we all know gear is not better than skill. Gear well... it's just an advantage.
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
182
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:52:00 -
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NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit.
it doesn't take that much...... its going to take about 3.5 million to get into proto gear. You don't need level 5 on every skill before that. Its like how HAV's are right now. They really only need level 3 to get into their tanks, the remaining two levels are saved for when tear 2, and/or different variants of suits come out. 3.5 million is only a million more then what it takes right now. That's about two weeks of boosted skilling, three weeks without any boosters. Its really not that big of a deal. It forces specialization, nothing more. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
834
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:53:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:I actually didnt get bored of BF3. I got pissed off at how they were handling the game. You think CCP nerfs things hard? lol CCP aint got nothing on DICE. And DICE also still hasnt fixed some major glitches which have been present since it left its "beta".
Lol dude........a % of ccp is made up of ex dice developers, bet ya didnt know that one huh?
Why do you think dust has similarities to bf2142?
So in actual fact ccp are better than dice, because they took the better developers FROM dice, which is why bf2 was better than bf3, because the better dice devs were working on dust and not bf3.
P.s that wasn't a bf3 beta, it was a demo  |
SUGAR-BOO-BOO
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.05.04 16:02:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it
NO.
The idea is for CCP to keep making money through micro-transactions. Upping the SP requirements like this means more people are going to have to dish out mo' money for Boosters.
Duh! |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.05.04 16:10:00 -
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NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit.
Why, you need prototype to kill new players? |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
537
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Posted - 2013.05.04 16:12:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:O_O you agree with beers? this is a sign of dust dying
lol, blame CCP, not beers |
fell and died
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.04 16:16:00 -
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We will see the exact same amount of Proto users! The only thing that actually take WAY LONGER is getting into a specialised Proto! Getting into Proto Basic Dropsuits will cost you like ~2mil SP? Or even less than that? |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
28
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Posted - 2013.05.04 16:16:00 -
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SUGAR-BOO-BOO wrote:2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it NO. The idea is for CCP to keep making money through micro-transactions. Upping the SP requirements like this means more people are going to have to dish out mo' money for Boosters. Duh!
Yeah, god forbid a company wanting to make money off their product to further themselves and the development of their products.
EVIL EVIL COMPANIES THAT REQUIRE MONEY TO OPERATE!
GRAB YOUR PITCH FORKS EVERYONE |
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Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
496
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Posted - 2013.05.04 16:42:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Going to be a long time for a new player
3 months is a long time? I think "It's going to be a hard time for new players." is more appropriate. It will be a tough 3 months, but in that 3 months, they will have learned what it means to grind into getting your proto specialized suit. And that will be nice.
That said, It's only going to take about 2m SP to get into a basic proto suit without the bells and whistles. so in theory, more people should be able to roll proto now. just not necessarily specialized prototype suits.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I like it. 3 months (with boosters) to get into a single specialized dropsuit, with fail fits, that sounds about right. one more month and you should be able to get your core skills up, etc.
Honestly though, this really does make boosters shine. without them, it could take you half a year to be rolling in the best suits. and that is pretty unfortunate, lol.
But hey, it IS free to play. And what's wrong with dropping a $20 here and there in order to keep the SP flowin'? especially if you're enjoying the game. Which, will obviously improve over time. Especially when they throw in PvE. Then even the people who are anti-social can play Dust, make a profit, and be space-rich. :D |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty
EoN.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.04 17:50:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote:I actually didnt get bored of BF3. I got pissed off at how they were handling the game. You think CCP nerfs things hard? lol CCP aint got nothing on DICE. And DICE also still hasnt fixed some major glitches which have been present since it left its "beta". Lol dude........a % of ccp is made up of ex dice developers, bet ya didnt know that one huh? Why do you think dust has similarities to bf2142? So in actual fact ccp are better than dice, because they took the better developers FROM dice, which is why bf2 was better than bf3, because the better dice devs were working on dust and not bf3. P.s that wasn't a bf3 beta, it was a demo
Thats why i had beta in quotes, i guess it didnt express the sarcasm enough.
I dont really see what your point is in reply to me, other than feeling the urge to express a fact you think seldom know. You didnt even have to quote.... you couldve just made it a standalone post, or even its own thread. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.05.04 17:52:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. Please note that now you have the ability to run two proto suits, you get the basic proto and then the side skill proto (ass or logistics). So you'll get the basic proto way below the 5mil mark.
i think he was just here to cry, not to get information :( |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
837
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:29:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote:I actually didnt get bored of BF3. I got pissed off at how they were handling the game. You think CCP nerfs things hard? lol CCP aint got nothing on DICE. And DICE also still hasnt fixed some major glitches which have been present since it left its "beta". Lol dude........a % of ccp is made up of ex dice developers, bet ya didnt know that one huh? Why do you think dust has similarities to bf2142? So in actual fact ccp are better than dice, because they took the better developers FROM dice, which is why bf2 was better than bf3, because the better dice devs were working on dust and not bf3. P.s that wasn't a bf3 beta, it was a demo Thats why i had beta in quotes, i guess it didnt express the sarcasm enough. I dont really see what your point is in reply to me, other than feeling the urge to express a fact you think seldom know. You didnt even have to quote.... you couldve just made it a standalone post, or even its own thread.
Sorry bro I didn't intend to quote, damn cell phone lol.
I was just stating a fact really, and also my lame attempt at being sarcastic |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
141
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:30:00 -
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Here, I'll let you in on a little secret. Dust was quick to co-opt the Eve catchphrase "Adapt or Die", but it did so before it really knew what it meant. You probably thought that like any other game it was to do with the simple act of winning and losing, but if nothing changes, why would anyone need to adapt? You'd simply settle into a comfortable winning strategy and stay there until you burnt out after a year or two of pulling the same bull**** in matches.
This, right now, is what it really means. Will you cry and wave your arms when things get flipped upside down, and the best is no longer the thing you thought it was, or will you "HTFU" and deal with it? Looking at the Dust forums right now, all I see is tears from people who assumed there was a skill finish line and a one true best fitting, and loved to throw accusations of QQ around the forums when they had everything figured out, but Eve players have seen this kind of upheaval so many times in the last ten years they must be looking at this and laughing at us.
Ask yourself this: Do you want a game that you drill for three years, never changing, until you realise the community around it has started to die and you're on a sinking ship, or would you like something that is still surprising you five years and infinite stories from now? If you want the latter, you're going to have to get used to change, or perish. If only there was a catchy way of summing that up. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
238
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:32:00 -
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CCP is increasing the amount of SP it takes to level up to diminish any SP you've gained during the beta.
They'll probably increase SP rewards and the cap, but how does it make you feel knowing you accrued SP at a rate so slow you're not even in good gear 5+ months later? |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:41:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it
Why would any new player join in on this game, knowing that vets will always have a huge advantage over him, and always will have huge advantage over him for at least a year, then the vets will only have a moderate advantage over him. That's bullshit, few new players are going to stick around just for that. Core skills are absolutely vital to the new player, and this flat-out fucks them over. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:43:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Why would any new player join in on this game, knowing that vets will always have a huge advantage over him, and always will have huge advantage over him for at least a year, then the vets will only have a moderate advantage over him. That's bullshit, few new players are going to stick around just for that. Core skills are absolutely vital to the new player, and this flat-out fucks them over.
because some of us like the challenge. i spent the last 5 month in eve working on navigation and capacitor skills. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:49:00 -
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low genius wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Why would any new player join in on this game, knowing that vets will always have a huge advantage over him, and always will have huge advantage over him for at least a year, then the vets will only have a moderate advantage over him. That's bullshit, few new players are going to stick around just for that. Core skills are absolutely vital to the new player, and this flat-out fucks them over. because some of us like the challenge. i spent the last 5 month in eve working on navigation and capacitor skills.
That's EVE, which has 100% passive IIRC. This will be nothing more than a grind, you'll be coming on Dust to hit the cap as if it's a job, and few new players will stick around for that, especially since Dust isn't the best as far as gameplay goes. Hell I know I'm going to find it hard to want to come on and I have a 6mill head start compared to the new player. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
49
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:55:00 -
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People don't get it it seems so I'll explain CCP's reasoning behind making the skills cost so much SP. Okay, the reason why their doing this is because it is supposed to take 4-6 months to max out a specific specialization. That way, you would be more inclined to only use that thing, not other things, and every class (say everyone sticks with what they pick) will be valuable and needed, not where everybody has everything and pure people are useless. Alo, this balances vets from a year ago to a new guy from 6 months ago, because although the vet has more SP, the new guy (if he specialized) can still kill him, if he has the skill for it, because he is on, for the most part, equal terms with the vet. I hope this decision, which is one of the only ones that made sense, is more clear to you!
Peace, Godin |
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:03:00 -
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I am under the impression that most people have never played EVE Online before. Well here's a rude awakening... It takes a long time to get important skills.
ohmaigawd get over having to train a bit longer for your max level suit. Yes it cost more than it does now. Stop complaining about it. If you don't like it, go play call of duty or what ever mindless, repetitive game you can get your hands on. DUST is a long term game with long term goals and long term achievements. You are not supposed to work for 6 hours and get to max level (or what ever equivalent crap other games have). This game is supposed to take time and patience to achieve end game rewards. Deal with it noobs... It's not changing because you're mad. |
MacGoogles iS-me-name
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:04:00 -
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:05:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:low genius wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:2100 Angels wrote:NIIKIA wrote:free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Why would any new player join in on this game, knowing that vets will always have a huge advantage over him, and always will have huge advantage over him for at least a year, then the vets will only have a moderate advantage over him. That's bullshit, few new players are going to stick around just for that. Core skills are absolutely vital to the new player, and this flat-out fucks them over. because some of us like the challenge. i spent the last 5 month in eve working on navigation and capacitor skills. That's EVE, which has 100% passive IIRC. This will be nothing more than a grind, you'll be coming on Dust to hit the cap as if it's a job, and few new players will stick around for that, especially since Dust isn't the best as far as gameplay goes. Hell I know I'm going to find it hard to want to come on and I have a 6mill head start compared to the new player.
the 'cap' is for people who just started. in a few months beta characters will largely not use boosters, and won't care much about the cap. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:06:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:I am under the impression that most people have never played EVE Online before. Well here's a rude awakening... It takes a long time to get important skills.
ohmaigawd get over having to train a bit longer for your max level suit. Yes it cost more than it does now. Stop complaining about it. If you don't like it, go play call of duty or what ever mindless, repetitive game you can get your hands on. DUST is a long term game with long term goals and long term achievements. You are not supposed to work for 6 hours and get to max level (or what ever equivalent crap other games have). This game is supposed to take time and patience to achieve end game rewards. Deal with it noobs... It's not changing because you're mad.
it's painful to watch these CoD fans try to wrap their heads around a real game. |
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