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Justin Tymes wrote:

low genius wrote:

Justin Tymes wrote:

2100 Angels wrote:

NIIKIA wrote:

free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit.

How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it

Why would any new player join in on this game, knowing that vets will always have a huge advantage over him, and always will have huge advantage over him for at least a year, then the vets will only have a moderate advantage over him. That's bullshit, few new players are going to stick around just for that. Core skills are absolutely vital to the new player, and this flat-out fucks them over.

because some of us like the challenge. i spent the last 5 month in eve working on navigation and capacitor skills.

That's EVE, which has 100% passive IIRC. This will be nothing more than a grind, you'll be coming on Dust to hit the cap as if it's a job, and few new players will stick around for that, especially since Dust isn't the best as far as gameplay goes. Hell I know I'm going to find it hard to want to come on and I have a 6mill head start compared to the new player.

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Nstomper Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 266	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:29:00 - [31] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Exactly! Take bf3 (there's that reference AGAIN) as an example. It took people only a couple of months to max everything out and now there's no carrot dangling in front of you to keep playing, it got boring. I like the whole skill progression in dust, gives you something to work for. And when people see you rockin proto etc they know you put in the time. This
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 223	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:36:00 - [32] - Quote I actually didnt get bored of BF3. I got pissed off at how they were handling the game. You think CCP nerfs things hard? lol CCP aint got nothing on DICE. And DICE also still hasnt fixed some major glitches which have been present since it left its "beta".
NIIKIA Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:49:00 - [33] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: so it takes everyone longer to get the same item. my hart bleeds that you cant run around in proto gear pub stomping heavy forbid you have try and use some form of skill now Come on now we all know gear is not better than skill. Gear well... it's just an advantage.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 182	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:52:00 - [34] - Quote NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. it doesn't take that much...... its going to take about 3.5 million to get into proto gear. You don't need level 5 on every skill before that. Its like how HAV's are right now. They really only need level 3 to get into their tanks, the remaining two levels are saved for when tear 2, and/or different variants of suits come out. 3.5 million is only a million more then what it takes right now. That's about two weeks of boosted skilling, three weeks without any boosters. Its really not that big of a deal. It forces specialization, nothing more.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Unclaimed. 834	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:53:00 - [35] - Quote Don Von Hulio wrote: I actually didnt get bored of BF3. I got pissed off at how they were handling the game. You think CCP nerfs things hard? lol CCP aint got nothing on DICE. And DICE also still hasnt fixed some major glitches which have been present since it left its "beta". Lol dude........a % of ccp is made up of ex dice developers, bet ya didnt know that one huh? Why do you think dust has similarities to bf2142? So in actual fact ccp are better than dice, because they took the better developers FROM dice, which is why bf2 was better than bf3, because the better dice devs were working on dust and not bf3. P.s that wasn't a bf3 beta, it was a demo
SUGAR-BOO-BOO Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 18	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:02:00 - [36] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it NO. The idea is for CCP to keep making money through micro-transactions. Upping the SP requirements like this means more people are going to have to dish out mo' money for Boosters. Duh!
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 64	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:10:00 - [37] - Quote NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. Why, you need prototype to kill new players?
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 537	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:12:00 - [38] - Quote GoD-NoVa wrote: O_O you agree with beers? this is a sign of dust dying lol, blame CCP, not beers
fell and died Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:16:00 - [39] - Quote We will see the exact same amount of Proto users! The only thing that actually take WAY LONGER is getting into a specialised Proto! Getting into Proto Basic Dropsuits will cost you like ~2mil SP? Or even less than that?
Cyrius Li-Moody The Vanguardians Orion Empire 28	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:16:00 - [40] - Quote SUGAR-BOO-BOO wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it NO. The idea is for CCP to keep making money through micro-transactions. Upping the SP requirements like this means more people are going to have to dish out mo' money for Boosters. Duh! Yeah, god forbid a company wanting to make money off their product to further themselves and the development of their products. EVIL EVIL COMPANIES THAT REQUIRE MONEY TO OPERATE! GRAB YOUR PITCH FORKS EVERYONE

Orin the Freak Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 496	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:42:00 - [41] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Going to be a long time for a new player 3 months is a long time? I think "It's going to be a hard time for new players." is more appropriate. It will be a tough 3 months, but in that 3 months, they will have learned what it means to grind into getting your proto specialized suit. And that will be nice. That said, It's only going to take about 2m SP to get into a basic proto suit without the bells and whistles. so in theory, more people should be able to roll proto now. just not necessarily specialized prototype suits. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I like it. 3 months (with boosters) to get into a single specialized dropsuit, with fail fits, that sounds about right. one more month and you should be able to get your core skills up, etc. Honestly though, this really does make boosters shine. without them, it could take you half a year to be rolling in the best suits. and that is pretty unfortunate, lol. But hey, it IS free to play. And what's wrong with dropping a $20 here and there in order to keep the SP flowin'? especially if you're enjoying the game. Which, will obviously improve over time. Especially when they throw in PvE. Then even the people who are anti-social can play Dust, make a profit, and be space-rich. :D
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 223	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:50:00 - [42] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: Don Von Hulio wrote: I actually didnt get bored of BF3. I got pissed off at how they were handling the game. You think CCP nerfs things hard? lol CCP aint got nothing on DICE. And DICE also still hasnt fixed some major glitches which have been present since it left its "beta". Lol dude........a % of ccp is made up of ex dice developers, bet ya didnt know that one huh? Why do you think dust has similarities to bf2142? So in actual fact ccp are better than dice, because they took the better developers FROM dice, which is why bf2 was better than bf3, because the better dice devs were working on dust and not bf3. P.s that wasn't a bf3 beta, it was a demo Thats why i had beta in quotes, i guess it didnt express the sarcasm enough. I dont really see what your point is in reply to me, other than feeling the urge to express a fact you think seldom know. You didnt even have to quote.... you couldve just made it a standalone post, or even its own thread.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:52:00 - [43] - Quote DeeJay One wrote: NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. Please note that now you have the ability to run two proto suits, you get the basic proto and then the side skill proto (ass or logistics). So you'll get the basic proto way below the 5mil mark. i think he was just here to cry, not to get information :(
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Unclaimed. 837	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:29:00 - [44] - Quote Don Von Hulio wrote: tribal wyvern wrote: Don Von Hulio wrote: I actually didnt get bored of BF3. I got pissed off at how they were handling the game. You think CCP nerfs things hard? lol CCP aint got nothing on DICE. And DICE also still hasnt fixed some major glitches which have been present since it left its "beta". Lol dude........a % of ccp is made up of ex dice developers, bet ya didnt know that one huh? Why do you think dust has similarities to bf2142? So in actual fact ccp are better than dice, because they took the better developers FROM dice, which is why bf2 was better than bf3, because the better dice devs were working on dust and not bf3. P.s that wasn't a bf3 beta, it was a demo Thats why i had beta in quotes, i guess it didnt express the sarcasm enough. I dont really see what your point is in reply to me, other than feeling the urge to express a fact you think seldom know. You didnt even have to quote.... you couldve just made it a standalone post, or even its own thread. Sorry bro I didn't intend to quote, damn cell phone lol. I was just stating a fact really, and also my lame attempt at being sarcastic
Snaps Tremor The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:30:00 - [45] - Quote Here, I'll let you in on a little secret. Dust was quick to co-opt the Eve catchphrase "Adapt or Die", but it did so before it really knew what it meant. You probably thought that like any other game it was to do with the simple act of winning and losing, but if nothing changes, why would anyone need to adapt? You'd simply settle into a comfortable winning strategy and stay there until you burnt out after a year or two of pulling the same bull**** in matches. This, right now, is what it really means. Will you cry and wave your arms when things get flipped upside down, and the best is no longer the thing you thought it was, or will you "HTFU" and deal with it? Looking at the Dust forums right now, all I see is tears from people who assumed there was a skill finish line and a one true best fitting, and loved to throw accusations of QQ around the forums when they had everything figured out, but Eve players have seen this kind of upheaval so many times in the last ten years they must be looking at this and laughing at us. Ask yourself this: Do you want a game that you drill for three years, never changing, until you realise the community around it has started to die and you're on a sinking ship, or would you like something that is still surprising you five years and infinite stories from now? If you want the latter, you're going to have to get used to change, or perish. If only there was a catchy way of summing that up.
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming EoN. 238	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:32:00 - [46] - Quote CCP is increasing the amount of SP it takes to level up to diminish any SP you've gained during the beta. They'll probably increase SP rewards and the cap, but how does it make you feel knowing you accrued SP at a rate so slow you're not even in good gear 5+ months later?
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 65	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:41:00 - [47] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Why would any new player join in on this game, knowing that vets will always have a huge advantage over him, and always will have huge advantage over him for at least a year, then the vets will only have a moderate advantage over him. That's bullshit, few new players are going to stick around just for that. Core skills are absolutely vital to the new player, and this flat-out fucks them over.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:43:00 - [48] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the **** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Why would any new player join in on this game, knowing that vets will always have a huge advantage over him, and always will have huge advantage over him for at least a year, then the vets will only have a moderate advantage over him. That's bullshit, few new players are going to stick around just for that. Core skills are absolutely vital to the new player, and this flat-out fucks them over. because some of us like the challenge. i spent the last 5 month in eve working on navigation and capacitor skills.
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 65	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:49:00 - [49] - Quote low genius wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the ** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Why would any new player join in on this game, knowing that vets will always have a huge advantage over him, and always will have huge advantage over him for at least a year, then the vets will only have a moderate advantage over him. That's bullshit, few new players are going to stick around just for that. Core skills are absolutely vital to the new player, and this flat-out fucks them over. because some of us like the challenge. i spent the last 5 month in eve working on navigation and capacitor skills. That's EVE, which has 100% passive IIRC. This will be nothing more than a grind, you'll be coming on Dust to hit the cap as if it's a job**, and few new players will stick around for that, especially since Dust isn't the best as far as gameplay goes. Hell I know I'm going to find it hard to want to come on and I have a 6mill head start compared to the new player.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 49	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:55:00 - [50] - Quote People don't get it it seems so I'll explain CCP's reasoning behind making the skills cost so much SP. Okay, the reason why their doing this is because it is supposed to take 4-6 months to max out a specific specialization. That way, you would be more inclined to only use that thing, not other things, and every class (say everyone sticks with what they pick) will be valuable and needed, not where everybody has everything and pure people are useless. Alo, this balances vets from a year ago to a new guy from 6 months ago, because although the vet has more SP, the new guy (if he specialized) can still kill him, if he has the skill for it, because he is on, for the most part, equal terms with the vet. I hope this decision, which is one of the only ones that made sense, is more clear to you! Peace, Godin

Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 5	Posted - 2013.05.04 19:03:00 - [51] - Quote I am under the impression that most people have never played EVE Online before. Well here's a rude awakening... It takes a long time to get important skills. ohmaigawd get over having to train a bit longer for your max level suit. Yes it cost more than it does now. Stop complaining about it. If you don't like it, go play call of duty or what ever mindless, repetitive game you can get your hands on. DUST is a long term game with long term goals and long term achievements. You are not supposed to work for 6 hours and get to max level (or what ever equivalent crap other games have). This game is supposed to take time and patience to achieve end game rewards. Deal with it noobs... It's not changing because you're mad.
MacGoogles iS-me-name ThatsHott 6	Posted - 2013.05.04 19:04:00 - [52] - Quote o_O
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 45	Posted - 2013.05.04 19:05:00 - [53] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: low genius wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: NIIKIA wrote: free beers was right i usually don't agree with the guy but this is madness we ask for content you make it 2x harder to get proto that's nuts for what reason? you didn't make the suits stronger you nerfed the ** out of them.... sorry ccp this is bs. i have 12mil sp so i can still get my proto gear but this is bullshit. How long did it take you to get that SP? 2 and a half months? The idea is to make it so that people don't reach end game in a short period of time. Get over it Why would any new player join in on this game, knowing that vets will always have a huge advantage over him, and always will have huge advantage over him for at least a year, then the vets will only have a moderate advantage over him. That's bullshit, few new players are going to stick around just for that. Core skills are absolutely vital to the new player, and this flat-out fucks them over. because some of us like the challenge. i spent the last 5 month in eve working on navigation and capacitor skills. That's EVE, which has 100% passive IIRC. This will be nothing more than a grind, you'll be coming on Dust to hit the cap as if it's a job**, and few new players will stick around for that, especially since Dust isn't the best as far as gameplay goes. Hell I know I'm going to find it hard to want to come on and I have a 6mill head start compared to the new player. the 'cap' is for people who just started. in a few months beta characters will largely not use boosters, and won't care much about the cap.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 45	Posted - 2013.05.04 19:06:00 - [54] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: I am under the impression that most people have never played EVE Online before. Well here's a rude awakening... It takes a long time to get important skills. ohmaigawd get over having to train a bit longer for your max level suit. Yes it cost more than it does now. Stop complaining about it. If you don't like it, go play call of duty or what ever mindless, repetitive game you can get your hands on. DUST is a long term game with long term goals and long term achievements. You are not supposed to work for 6 hours and get to max level (or what ever equivalent crap other games have). This game is supposed to take time and patience to achieve end game rewards. Deal with it noobs... It's not changing because you're mad. it's painful to watch these CoD fans try to wrap their heads around a real game.


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