DUST Search - More than 5mil SP needed to get into specialized Proto suits

Sete Clifton wrote:

2100 Angels wrote:

Sete Clifton wrote:

2100 Angels wrote:

Sete Clifton wrote:

So according to the items skill sheet, the frame proto suits are statistically the same as the racial/specialized proto suits. Does that mean that the only difference between the two is the added racial bonus on the latter, or am I missing something?

Hmm. Am I missing something here? What are the racial specific assault/logistics dropsuits called? The only suits that I can seem to find on that list are, e.g. Minmatar Medium Frame mk.0

For the ones I looked at there is "Amarr Medium Frame ak.0" and the "Assault ak.0", which both have the same stats, including meta level.

Haha yeah I noticed it just before you replied. I've noticed the same thing, though presumably the frame suits don't get the racial bonuses.. and also the logistics suit had quite varying stats

Yeah, it's a little confusing. If they are the same suits just with the racial bonuses, then screw that, I'll save the 3mil SP. It would also make sense with when CCP said SP prices would be about the same, as it would come out to about 2.2mil to max the frame skill. Unfortunately it appears Logi's would get screwed if this is the case, as they'd have to specialize for their suits.

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fell and died Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:03:00 - [1] - Quote That's quite a lot. Does anyone know the fitting stats for the basic suits?
LeCuch Red Star. EoN. 32	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:04:00 - [2] - Quote Lol good thing i just broke 9 mill sp
GoD-NoVa Imperfects Negative-Feedback 283	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:06:00 - [3] - Quote lol feel bad for the newer players and the casual
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 86	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:07:00 - [4] - Quote well then...lets hope I have that ready when the pilot suits arrive....
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 428	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:10:00 - [5] - Quote It's not really that much if you can view Dust in a long term fashion similar to EVE and not like the immediate gratification games like cod.
Kleanur Guy SyNergy Gaming EoN. 194	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:11:00 - [6] - Quote http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64540/1/dust_market_items.csv If you can find a way to read that efficiently it gives you some of the stats for dropsuits.
2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 65	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:13:00 - [7] - Quote 7,462,080 SP to get proto racial suits
Thor Odinson42 Planetary Response Organization 116	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:23:00 - [8] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: 7,462,080 SP to get proto racial suits It's 1,865,520 to max out the frame It's 3,109,200 to reach proto racial suit. Not sure is you have to max out drop suit command, but that's 155,000 if so. If you look at the drop suit upgrade skills the core skills require a ton of SP. electronics and engineering are 5x multipliers. We won't be seeing full protos for a while.
2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 67	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:31:00 - [9] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: 7,462,080 SP to get proto racial suits It's 1,865,520 to max out the frame It's 3,109,200 to reach proto racial suit. Not sure is you have to max out drop suit command, but that's 155,000 if so. If you look at the drop suit upgrade skills the core skills require a ton of SP. electronics and engineering are 5x multipliers. We won't be seeing full protos for a while. Sorry you're right, had an error in my excel sheet. This is going to be rough on the SP
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 256	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:32:00 - [10] - Quote GoD-NoVa wrote: lol feel bad for the newer players and the casual ** the casual in the *. Twice. They don't get human rights.

Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 105	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:35:00 - [11] - Quote So according to the items skill sheet, the frame proto suits are statistically the same as the racial/specialized proto suits. Does that mean that the only difference between the two is the added racial bonus on the latter, or am I missing something?
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 250	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:35:00 - [12] - Quote Damn, I only have 3 mil and Ive been playing for 2 and a half months. Looks like its gonna be militia for me again. I mean, I have 3 mil now and I STILL haven't unlocked proto dropsuits, what with all the necessary passive bonuses, mods, and weapons.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 386	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:38:00 - [13] - Quote I am glad, cant top out in a week
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 401	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:45:00 - [14] - Quote And only just over 2 million SP to get a basic proto suit. Sounds pretty good to me.
2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 67	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:46:00 - [15] - Quote Sete Clifton wrote: So according to the items skill sheet, the frame proto suits are statistically the same as the racial/specialized proto suits. Does that mean that the only difference between the two is the added racial bonus on the latter, or am I missing something? Hmm. Am I missing something here? What are the racial specific assault/logistics dropsuits called? The only suits that I can seem to find on that list are, e.g. Minmatar Medium Frame mk.0
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 250	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:46:00 - [16] - Quote Django Quik wrote: And only just over 2 million SP to get a basic proto suit. Sounds pretty good to me. Wait, so why the hell would you spend 3 mil more sp for a sidegrade?
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 105	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:48:00 - [17] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: Sete Clifton wrote: So according to the items skill sheet, the frame proto suits are statistically the same as the racial/specialized proto suits. Does that mean that the only difference between the two is the added racial bonus on the latter, or am I missing something? Hmm. Am I missing something here? What are the racial specific assault/logistics dropsuits called? The only suits that I can seem to find on that list are, e.g. Minmatar Medium Frame mk.0 For the ones I looked at there is "Amarr Medium Frame ak.0" and the "Assault ak.0", which both have the same stats, including meta level.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 174	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:49:00 - [18] - Quote GoD-NoVa wrote: lol feel bad for the newer players and the casual I am as casual as it gets and it doesn't hurt me at all. Only vets who are butthurt or made of candy are crying. I play maybe 3 days a week and I have NO problems with any of this or any changes. I have less than 7 M SP and I understand that is more than a new player but it is only about half of the QQ team that do all the rage posts.
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 401	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:49:00 - [19] - Quote slypie11 wrote: Django Quik wrote: And only just over 2 million SP to get a basic proto suit. Sounds pretty good to me. Wait, so why the hell would you spend 3 mil more sp for a sidegrade? Extra passive bonuses and I'm assuming more specialised slot layouts and maybe CPU/PG (I can't specifically recall the stats right now).
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 174	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:51:00 - [20] - Quote slypie11 wrote: Damn, I only have 3 mil and Ive been playing for 2 and a half months. Looks like its gonna be militia for me again. I mean, I have 3 mil now and I STILL haven't unlocked proto dropsuits, what with all the necessary passive bonuses, mods, and weapons. I only run the sever logi and standard. It is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. If it was up to me we would be all passive or only get 1/10 the active. Slow burn. To be honest I only have one proto anything and I stopped using it because it is expensive and everyone called it OP. I like the viziam but I don't even run it on a fit. Advanced is all I have.

2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 67	Posted - 2013.05.04 14:55:00 - [21] - Quote Sete Clifton wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: Sete Clifton wrote: So according to the items skill sheet, the frame proto suits are statistically the same as the racial/specialized proto suits. Does that mean that the only difference between the two is the added racial bonus on the latter, or am I missing something? Hmm. Am I missing something here? What are the racial specific assault/logistics dropsuits called? The only suits that I can seem to find on that list are, e.g. Minmatar Medium Frame mk.0 For the ones I looked at there is "Amarr Medium Frame ak.0" and the "Assault ak.0", which both have the same stats, including meta level. Haha yeah I noticed it just before you replied. I've noticed the same thing, though presumably the frame suits don't get the racial bonuses.. and also the logistics suit had quite varying stats
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 105	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:06:00 - [22] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: Sete Clifton wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: Sete Clifton wrote: So according to the items skill sheet, the frame proto suits are statistically the same as the racial/specialized proto suits. Does that mean that the only difference between the two is the added racial bonus on the latter, or am I missing something? Hmm. Am I missing something here? What are the racial specific assault/logistics dropsuits called? The only suits that I can seem to find on that list are, e.g. Minmatar Medium Frame mk.0 For the ones I looked at there is "Amarr Medium Frame ak.0" and the "Assault ak.0", which both have the same stats, including meta level. Haha yeah I noticed it just before you replied. I've noticed the same thing, though presumably the frame suits don't get the racial bonuses.. and also the logistics suit had quite varying stats Yeah, it's a little confusing. If they are the same suits just with the racial bonuses, then screw that, I'll save the 3mil SP. It would also make sense with when CCP said SP prices would be about the same, as it would come out to about 2.2mil to max the frame skill. Unfortunately it appears Logi's would get screwed if this is the case, as they'd have to specialize for their suits.
fell and died Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:07:00 - [23] - Quote Well, I'm really worried about Logis. Logis would have to spec a lot of SP into that Basic suit first in order to be able to use a suit with more than 1 equipment slot.
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 401	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:10:00 - [24] - Quote Sete Clifton wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: Sete Clifton wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: Sete Clifton wrote: So according to the items skill sheet, the frame proto suits are statistically the same as the racial/specialized proto suits. Does that mean that the only difference between the two is the added racial bonus on the latter, or am I missing something? Hmm. Am I missing something here? What are the racial specific assault/logistics dropsuits called? The only suits that I can seem to find on that list are, e.g. Minmatar Medium Frame mk.0 For the ones I looked at there is "Amarr Medium Frame ak.0" and the "Assault ak.0", which both have the same stats, including meta level. Haha yeah I noticed it just before you replied. I've noticed the same thing, though presumably the frame suits don't get the racial bonuses.. and also the logistics suit had quite varying stats Yeah, it's a little confusing. If they are the same suits just with the racial bonuses, then screw that, I'll save the 3mil SP. It would also make sense with when CCP said SP prices would be about the same, as it would come out to about 2.2mil to max the frame skill. Unfortunately it appears Logi's would get screwed if this is the case, as they'd have to specialize for their suits. The specialised racial suits have different slot layouts and get extra passive bonuses, though I think the other stats (CPU/PG/EHP) may be the same.
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 105	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:14:00 - [25] - Quote Django Quik wrote: The specialised racial suits have different slot layouts and get extra passive bonuses, though I think the other stats (CPU/PG/EHP) may be the same. Yeah, according to the item list they have all the same stats and numbers. They don't show high or low slots for some reason though in the list. As long as it isn't a huge disparity between the slots, I'll probably still skip the specialized suits for now.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 348	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:15:00 - [26] - Quote This is real dust. Not proto stuff in 1 month ;) Now we actually have PROGRESSION. And long one. Love it.
fell and died Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:10:00 - [27] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: This is real dust. Not proto stuff in 1 month ;) Now we actually have PROGRESSION. And long one. Love it. Actually I think getting into Basic Proto suits is faster than before. But specializing into either Assault or Logistics will take A LOT of time.
Nstomper Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 266	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:37:00 - [28] - Quote GoD-NoVa wrote: lol feel bad for the newer players and the casual Feel bad for them how? I thinks its a good move making it so it takes longer to get the end game gear
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 174	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:41:00 - [29] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: This is real dust. Not proto stuff in 1 month ;) Now we actually have PROGRESSION. And long one. Love it. +1


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