DUST Search - CCP, Nerf the AR

Cosgar wrote:

Kiro Justice wrote:

Gonna get to straight to the point: The Duvolle is an automatic sniper rifle and the game is losing (has lost) its variety and flair. I didn't come to play AR514 but that's what it's turning into.

The AR guys have been QQ-ing about...Well...Everything and now, the only weapon that works IS the AR and a handful of others (MD, Laser Rifle, Sniper. Sometimes) everything else has been nerfed to **** (Tanks, HMG's, Dropships) and there's no reason to spec into another weapon.

Assault Rifle Uses

Area Denial - Check

Infantry Removal - Check

SNIPING - Check (Wtf?!)

Close, middle, long range engagements - Check, check, check.

You see the problem here. There is honestly no reason to do anything else. I'm not whining since, once every so often I use the AR but...Come on. This is ridiculous, there's no reason that I don't even have to ask people what they're specing into.

Me: What are you gonna do on May 6th?

Other guy and me : Assault Rifle (We say this at the same time, mind you.)

I would propose a damage nerf, kinda like the one you gave the HMG (Again, wtf?!) since there is no way on this side of reality that an assault rifle should be outdamaging an HMG.

Or simply Buff the heavy, I know you fear "Power Creep" but we fear having only one class in the game, which is what'll happen if this thing doesn't get nerfed or the heavy get buffed. I'd like to think our fears are more important, mainly due to the fact that we're your audience and you want to keep us here.

Just observations.

Truth be told, Dust 514 is appealing to the lowest common denominator right now. Not sure about uprising, but if the patch notes are any indication, it's going to stay the path. As of right now, the AR is the elephant in the room. It's the sole reason for all the rage, lack of variety, and unfun counter mechanics in the game, because there are no counters for it and if there are, people QQ about them until it's nerfed to novelty.
You're going to have great numbers of subscribers on Monday, that's a fact. But the question is, how long are you going to keep them around when this overpowered weapon is allowed to run rampant. I've had several friends that I've tried to bring into the game that ultimately quit because they die in 1/8th of a second to this thing. The range is too great, the damage is too high, and if you keep catering to it's primary users, you're going to shoot yourself in the foot. When the next popular shooter comes out, the majority of those people are going to leave, without even paying a penny. Then your dedicated community will be leaving next because of the state that the casuals have left the game: AR 514, another generic CoD/BF clone where the stats, classes, vehicles, other weapons and fittings are just fluff because the AR is the best weapon in the game.


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Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 27	Posted - 2013.05.04 06:30:00 - [1] - Quote Gonna get to straight to the point: The Duvolle is an automatic sniper rifle and the game is losing (has lost) its variety and flair. I didn't come to play AR514 but that's what it's turning into. The AR guys have been QQ-ing about...Well...Everything and now, the only weapon that works IS the AR and a handful of others (MD, Laser Rifle, Sniper. Sometimes) everything else has been nerfed to **** (Tanks, HMG's, Dropships) and there's no reason to spec into another weapon. Assault Rifle Uses Area Denial - Check Infantry Removal - Check SNIPING - Check (Wtf?!) Close, middle, long range engagements - Check, check, check. You see the problem here. There is honestly no reason to do anything else. I'm not whining since, once every so often I use the AR but...Come on. This is ridiculous, there's no reason that I don't even have to ask people what they're specing into. Me: What are you gonna do on May 6th? Other guy and me : Assault Rifle (We say this at the same time, mind you.) I would propose a damage nerf, kinda like the one you gave the HMG (Again, wtf?!) since there is no way on this side of reality that an assault rifle should be outdamaging an HMG. Or simply Buff the heavy, I know you fear "Power Creep" but we fear having only one class in the game, which is what'll happen if this thing doesn't get nerfed or the heavy get buffed. I'd like to think our fears are more important, mainly due to the fact that we're your audience and you want to keep us here. Just observations.
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 27	Posted - 2013.05.04 06:34:00 - [2] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Lmao another thread Yes Imp. CCP apparently only learns through being badgered about something, such as the unrealistic amount of "Heavys are OP" threads that were around back in about January. They eventually listened, but then nerfed them to hell.
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 29	Posted - 2013.05.04 06:44:00 - [3] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: Hey wait, they can't destroy vehicles yet on their own, good job there isn't a handy broken type of grenade that allows players to solo matches Vehicle fails have nothing to do with this topic. I realize vehicles are gimped too, and I sympathize. I'm not posting about AV vs. Vehicles just yet. I do understand that AV should force people to be more dedicated, so that Super tanks aren't getting popped by militia AV. That's far from fair and downright ridiculous.
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 29	Posted - 2013.05.04 07:05:00 - [4] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Kiro Justice wrote: Gonna get to straight to the point: The Duvolle is an automatic sniper rifle and the game is losing (has lost) its variety and flair. I didn't come to play AR514 but that's what it's turning into. The AR guys have been QQ-ing about...Well...Everything and now, the only weapon that works IS the AR and a handful of others (MD, Laser Rifle, Sniper. Sometimes) everything else has been nerfed to **** (Tanks, HMG's, Dropships) and there's no reason to spec into another weapon. Assault Rifle Uses Area Denial - Check Infantry Removal - Check SNIPING - Check (Wtf?!) Close, middle, long range engagements - Check, check, check. You see the problem here. There is honestly no reason to do anything else. I'm not whining since, once every so often I use the AR but...Come on. This is ridiculous, there's no reason that I don't even have to ask people what they're specing into. Me: What are you gonna do on May 6th? Other guy and me : Assault Rifle (We say this at the same time, mind you.) I would propose a damage nerf, kinda like the one you gave the HMG (Again, wtf?!) since there is no way on this side of reality that an assault rifle should be outdamaging an HMG. Or simply Buff the heavy, I know you fear "Power Creep" but we fear having only one class in the game, which is what'll happen if this thing doesn't get nerfed or the heavy get buffed. I'd like to think our fears are more important, mainly due to the fact that we're your audience and you want to keep us here. Just observations. Truth be told, Dust 514 is appealing to the lowest common denominator right now. Not sure about uprising, but if the patch notes are any indication, it's going to stay the path. As of right now, the AR is the elephant in the room. It's the sole reason for all the rage, lack of variety, and unfun counter mechanics in the game, because there are no counters for it and if there are, people QQ about them until it's nerfed to novelty. You're going to have great numbers of subscribers on Monday, that's a fact. But the question is, how long are you going to keep them around when this overpowered weapon is allowed to run rampant. I've had several friends that I've tried to bring into the game that ultimately quit because they die in 1/8th of a second to this thing. The range is too great, the damage is too high, and if you keep catering to it's primary users, you're going to shoot yourself in the foot. When the next popular shooter comes out, the majority of those people are going to leave, without even paying a penny. Then your dedicated community will be leaving next because of the state that the casuals have left the game: AR 514, another generic CoD/BF clone where the stats, classes, vehicles, other weapons and fittings are just fluff because the AR is the best weapon in the game. I wholeheartedly agree. PC won't be fun if everyone is using the same gun. Neither will FW, none of the "Links to EVE" or "Single Server" BS will mean a thing because everyone will be using the same gun. In essence, you won't be ALLOWED to use anything except the AR due to the fact that it'll be the only gun that wins, and no Corp is gonna keep a loser, you'll be kicked from your corp, or at the very least, not allowed to participate in important fights. There will be no "I was there" because no one will BE there. I came to this game for depth and involvement. All I'm getting is shot in the face by AR's and occasionally shooting people in the face with them, which is fun and all but I'd love to be able to do it with...ANY other weapon without being penalized for not using an AR.
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 30	Posted - 2013.05.04 07:10:00 - [5] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: People complaining and hardly playing the game. I see deaths from many other weapons besides the AR. See...I play the game everyday. Or almost at least, and the fact that someone CAN die to another weapon doesn't say that the AR isn't OP. All it says is that other weapons shoot bullets, which are lethal. Woohoo. The AR is OP. If you're gonna comment at least make sure to be on topic.