It was written for stupid people like you to read

Wholly hell, a GM himself decided to grace us with his presence? Your so passionate about telling us to shut up and deal with our ruined classes. Just as passionate as you guys are with the Holly Assault Class. Its great that you so easly knock off ruinning the build for 1/3 of the classes in dust, no biggy the assult classes are happy right? Maby we should have the CPM's decide whats in the next build, they actually play dust. Sit on that and enjoy the hate Unicorn, welcome to New Eden.

What does it say about your post if a stupid person calls them stupid? It's bad dude and you should give it up.

Sure thing, but posting takes 1 minute and tweaking way more than that. In order to release a patch a buff or a nerf, we have to work on it. What will be released is something that ends a cycle of tests. During this period we are testing already for other contents and future tweaks.

With all respect. Just don't work in the game by listening the cry people in the forums. Because you won't never have a progress in the game. People that can not fight against something will cry for a nerf or for a buff of something that they like and you will change everything. I don't like to live in the past but the best example is the AR. Even if we play in a futuristic world like 10 000 D.C, you put iron sight that Hittler used in the Second War just because people complaing about the "central weapon". You screw the Tactical AR, the Breach AR. You change this weapon so many times that it looks like you have not idea of what kind of weapon do you want. Then you see a lot of post talking about Mass Driver so you buff the weapon. IT WILL BE THE SAME WITH THE FLAYLOCK PISTOL AND THE SCRAMBLE RIFLE, FOR SURE. Just don't listen to the people at the forum and do what you want because as an AR user, I can say that it's so FU%&/K annoying when you change and change and change a weapon and I need to adapt all the time just because people cry. It's easier to cry instead learn how to play.

Please CCP, use this build as a "BASE" for the future of the game. Stop making 180-¦ changes. Be sure you're more intelligent that the most people at the forums. Don't listen to the cry people.

Sorry for the english. See you

CCP just killed my non-spam thread lol.

What people ARE DOING and SHOULDNT

-"This game sucks, you just nerfed the crap out of Insert item, now the game is totally unbalanced and Insert other item will pwn. You suck."


What people CAN and SHOULD do:

-" I just read the patch notes and to be frank, it seems that a huge unbalance is about to happen. If we consider "Reason 1 - Reason 2 - Reason N!" we can presume that it will interact in a negative way with "Gameplay element 1 - Gameplay element N!", and as someone with experience in FPS shooters, i must say i-¦m quite distressed by this.

Please take those point by point elements into consideration before implementing the patch, or at least focus on the numbers after the change, so we can monitor the situation and see if it-¦s going to be unbalanced on the scale that i alerted."


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No one is saying you (the colelctive of one line spammers) should shut up, just that this is a place to interact in a useful way, and either people show valid reasons in a constructive topic, or stop creating useless ones that cast a shadow on the people that are trying to be useful.

You don't have any threads that aren't either bad troll is bad or bad spam is bad.

lol, see how it feels as a heavy?

Huge threadnaughts are a-brewin'...

Anyways, I have to say one thing before I go on,


Take it easy on GM Unicorn, he is here to moderate the forums, and there are many spam threads starting to boil over and shutting out the original threads that had good, useful debate in them.

In that regards yes, I agree with GM.

But,


We are told to come up with hard numbers and stats to support our positions... Based of a line of patch notes that says "reduced range and damage on HMG"

No numbers to base it on...

Listen, the screaming and crying on these forums might not be positively uplifting at all, but it is basic concerns about the game, and people have been resorting more and more to GTFO noob instead of logic when arguing... Not good.

I am rather upset as a heavy player by these changes also, and the forums are the place to express our concerns and sometimes outrage. But spams are not the way to do it.

CCP could be more forthcoming about exact changes in terms of a numbers dev blog or forum post to make our calculations with. They also could step in and try to more directly understand the issues behind these things and respond in the good threads.

But I will hold my tongue until the 6th and make my judgement there. I will tell CCP what needs fixed, and they either get on the ball with it or fail. I care too much about DUST to see CCP make honest mistakes and destroy it.

I know CCP wants this game to succeed, but there are many stumbling blocks, internal and external. If they can adapt and push out updates faster I would be more forgiving. Atm, its too slow of a development process to deal with a situation for 6 months...

Game development is hard, we understand that, but there are also certain standards, and glacially slow content trickle and updates are a sure way to kill an incomplete game...

wait, what? the title is confusing

oh i get it, too many "we heavies are displeased with CCP" threads and we are being told to can it

(didn't create a spam thread, just saying)

Numbers? i dont need numbers! Every 1 knows what happends to a weapon when it receives a infamous nerf from CCP. Look at the Tactical AR, the breach, missile launchers and so on.Those things are garbage, absolute garbage and unusable in all situations apart off attempting a suicide. Have fun with your 10HP HMG that has the range of a SMG.

More precise information would be a godsend. Saying you're tweaking a numerical value and then not saying how, why, or in what way is an easy way to make people freak.

This was something Blizzard did and still does very well. They tell you what they are changing, how they are changing it, and they give an exact description of the change. They tell you the damage change, the new % effectiveness of a buff, ect.

Ex1: Hamstring now slows target opponent's movement speed by 50%, up from 35%.

Ex2: Marines now have an armor of 0, down from 1.

Ex3: Mortal Strike's healing debuff no longer applies to healing received from food, potions, or bandages.

(pulling numbers outta nowhere.)

CCP took one of the most finicky weapons in the game and said "we're lowering its stats." That's a good way to **** a bunch of people off, especially when the weapon is considered lackluster by the majority of the player community to begin with. It doesn't help that even reducing the HMG's damage by as little as two points would cost the weapon over 10% of its base damage. It's a sticky situation and CCP does not have a great track record when it comes to bringing weapons into line.

Sure thing, but posting takes 1 minute and tweaking way more than that. In order to release a patch a buff or a nerf, we have to work on it. What will be released is something that ends a cycle of tests. During this period we are testing already for other contents and future tweaks.