DUST Search - Sticky:The future of Factional Warfare in DUST

Byozuma Kegawa wrote:

Tolen Rosas wrote:

for a start hopefully u will add penalties for people that leave games. would love to see Deserter occurences on their permanent files along with an Deserter %. expose the rage quitters.

then make it so player contracts have an option and some of the higher npc contracts have a minimum Deserter % threshold on them. provides the perfect incentive for mercs not to desert.

The Robot Devil wrote:

Quitting battles, not participating and team killers should get some type of status change or security status that is easily viewable to everyone. I don't want to pull a merc into my squad only to get killed by him. I try to pull in mercs that I know will work hard and will not rage quit.

But what if one of your squad fails to launch with the squad (I've had it happen to me and seen it happen numerous times)? Should the squad stay in the match while the poor sod that got left out sits and waits? If your idea were to bear fruit, if that squad left to launch with their whole squad they'd get a little black mark on their record, all cause they were just being a good squad.


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Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 397	Posted - 2013.05.03 19:09:00 - [1] - Quote Please please please add a similar loot system to the PC mechanic. Would make it actually more enticing than just playing the normal pub matches.
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 398	Posted - 2013.05.04 07:19:00 - [2] - Quote There's a seriously massive issue that has been pretty much totally overlooked by everyone here and needs urgent attention: AFKing. If you can stack an entire game (which you will be able to on both sides) with your corp/friends, all 32 players can avoid capturing any null cannons and the game will last almost an hour. With these reward mechanics you'd still get some isk but most importantly you'd get nearly 18000 SP without boosters (that's 27000 SP with!). This needs fixing ASAP. The entire FW system was better as it was - this way is much much worse and hugely open to exploitation.
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 400	Posted - 2013.05.04 11:21:00 - [3] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: 1. Throwing the match for the side you want to win is a tactic that is going to difficult to deal with. This is why factional standings are important - if you perform badly in matches for one side you get negative standings but if you perform really badly you get terrible standings and can no longer fight for that faction.
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 408	Posted - 2013.05.05 07:29:00 - [4] - Quote Byozuma Kegawa wrote: Tolen Rosas wrote: for a start hopefully u will add penalties for people that leave games. would love to see Deserter occurences on their permanent files along with an Deserter %. expose the rage quitters. then make it so player contracts have an option and some of the higher npc contracts have a minimum Deserter % threshold on them. provides the perfect incentive for mercs not to desert. The Robot Devil wrote: Quitting battles, not participating and team killers should get some type of status change or security status that is easily viewable to everyone. I don't want to pull a merc into my squad only to get killed by him. I try to pull in mercs that I know will work hard and will not rage quit. But what if one of your squad fails to launch with the squad (I've had it happen to me and seen it happen numerous times)? Should the squad stay in the match while the poor sod that got left out sits and waits? If your idea were to bear fruit, if that squad left to launch with their whole squad they'd get a little black mark on their record, all cause they were just being a good squad. If this happens, the player can just leave squad and deploy into the same battle on the same side and rejoin the squad. There's no problem there.
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 448	Posted - 2013.05.11 09:18:00 - [5] - Quote Just posted a good idea in another thread and wanted to bring it up here too: A lot of people keep saying about being mercs and fighting for the highest bidder but at the moment there is no bidding. We aren't paid by EvE players. There's zero incentive for anyone to pick one side over another. No one can say 'If you want us to fight for you, put up the isk' because EvE players can't do that - it's not in the game mechanics (yet). A good proposal might be that when EvE pilots are doing their FW thing, they can optionally choose an amount of isk to put out for dust contracts to aid them and that gets put into the isk pool for the Dust side FW match. When choosing a side Dust mercs can see how much is being offered and join the side they want. This would make the interaction a bit more tangible and EvE pilots might actually start caring a bit more about their Dusties.
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 517	Posted - 2013.05.17 09:05:00 - [6] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: What we don't want to do is just increase the rewards for the winners. As soon as people think they are going to lose they would just drop and go to another match where they have a chance to win. Solution: No SP or Isk if you leave a FW match before it ends. There must be a reason to win. You don't want to give more isk for winning? Give 2x salvage to the winner and none to the loser. Problem with this is that if you give nothing to the loser, as soon as it looks like one side don't stand a chance of winning, everyone will leave. It needs to be a reward system that encourages people to fight to the bitter end, even if they're going to lose overall.
Django Quik R.I.f.t Orion Empire 533	Posted - 2013.05.18 21:51:00 - [7] - Quote Cpt Murd0ck wrote: posted a thread that disappeared into the ether so i'll ask here. Do I have to be a member of a mercs corp or alliance to OB for the minnies in EVE You have to be enrolled in Faction Warfare EvE-side and have enough standing to fight for the faction of your choice.