DUST Search - Going to sum up anti-tanks players mind set and post.

Vin Vicious wrote:

ITT: a closet nerf AV thread

I snunk up behind you, i out smarted you and your team by allowing me to get behind you, or anywhere near you. three av nades, three CB7's. Thats how much time you have to turn your turret around to kill me, i have 500-600HP. you have 5-10k, you have three guns that can shoot at the same time . two of which are able to turn 360 degrees with perfect sight. first CB7 boom 75% shield, 2second delay before i can sprint or change weapons, 5 second dely befoe i can fire agian, av nades boomboomboom now if youre a good tank driver, you would of activated that shield repper as soon as the cb7 landed, but 99% of you aren't, so lets play that scene like so. 30% shield left, second CB7 5% shield, 2 second delay, 5second delay. if you havent killed me yet. or got behind some rock you fcuking suck, theres no if ands or buts, you suck at tank driving. there are three sits in a tank, you driving, two other turrets if one or two of the others hasnt gotten out and killed me after the first shot of the CB7, while im carrying a fcuking swarm and a scram pistol. you deserve to lose that tank.

PS. When did IMP start recruiting whiners?

PSS. If youre riding solo why waste the CPU/PG for turrets youre not gunna use?


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Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 413	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:52:00 - [1] - Quote "Tank driver are cry babies" "Tanks take no skill you have all that HP your cheating" "Tanks are OP because my standard swarms do not kill them" "All tank drivers do is *****" This is all I see from people who want tanks nerfed or think they are fine the way they are. I never see any facts from them and statistics. They never take the time to test things. All they do is attack tank drivers personally for their excuses. Yet because there is many CCP walks over to them and coddles them even though they give no support. Tanks drivers. We talk about tanks are becoming glass cannons. We show the facts aka look at my rail threads. We say they are going in the wrong direction. We again go over the facts with them. We talk about Forges. AV grenades. Flux. And swarms and go over the problems with them. We talk about how match making is what makes us seem OP. Because proto tanks end up in matches with militant geared players. And newer players that do not know much. So we gain this look of power. But once you are put in a match with a squad at your lvl a proto tank turns to dust against proto AV set ups. So the stats get skewed horrible that CCP is looking at. It does not take in account the times tanks are actually thrown in against even playing field and they become candy. Anti-tank kids come in use attack tactics with no support to their reasons. CCP comes back buffs the current problems with AV and then on top of that makes tanks even more of a glass cannon. Which we have gone over is ruining vehicles. CCP clearly does not know much about vehicle game play. And I have a feeling their test team sucks in these matters also. All they have is their numbers on paper that do not show the real problem.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 420	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:01:00 - [2] - Quote Don Von Hulio wrote: But on the flipside. "Ugh, SWARMs are OP" "Screw Packed AV" "Militia Forge Gun WTF NERF IT" "My tank is Crappy, its UP" ... We say they are but we actually go over the facts. We do not just ***** because our AR does not kill tanks. We go through things and back up why we say these things. I have never seen one post showing the facts that on the reverse side. Have you ever studied AV against vehicles. Created a private CB and test these things. Nope you just cry wolf. Again your prove my point all anti tankers do is call people cry babies.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 422	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:20:00 - [3] - Quote Added my all time favorite attack on us. Tanks should be running with full support. Yet AV needs none.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 422	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:29:00 - [4] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: I hope CCP isn't just looking at the raw stats from matches, when you consider that a lot of tanks in ambush are dropped after the enemy team has lost the footwar it would make the tanks look very overpowered, but if that is the case hopefully the amount of militia tanks that get pwned by AV grenades balances it out a little. Problem is that they can see the stats for each tank. So they look at a sagaris if they have been dropped in a ton of ambush maps with newer players what happens most of the time the stats are going to make sagaris look like gods of the battle field. Yet in reality we are just getting thrown in with people that are very new to the game and do not have much past militant AV. Super unbalanced match making. The few times it is balanced the sagaris never survives even with the top tank players it does not make it.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 425	Posted - 2013.05.03 00:23:00 - [5] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: ITT: a closet nerf AV thread I snunk up behind you, i out smarted you and your team by allowing me to get behind you, or anywhere near you. three av nades, three CB7's. Thats how much time you have to turn your turret around to kill me, i have 500-600HP. you have 5-10k, you have three guns that can shoot at the same time . two of which are able to turn 360 degrees with perfect sight. first CB7 boom 75% shield, 2second delay before i can sprint or change weapons, 5 second dely befoe i can fire agian, av nades boomboomboom now if youre a good tank driver, you would of activated that shield repper as soon as the cb7 landed, but 99% of you aren't, so lets play that scene like so. 30% shield left, second CB7 5% shield, 2 second delay, 5second delay. if you havent killed me yet. or got behind some rock you fcuking suck, theres no if ands or buts, you suck at tank driving. there are three sits in a tank, you driving, two other turrets if one or two of the others hasnt gotten out and killed me after the first shot of the CB7, while im carrying a fcuking swarm and a scram pistol. you deserve to lose that tank. PS. When did IMP start recruiting whiners? PSS. If youre riding solo why waste the CPU/PG for turrets youre not gunna use? Again what I see here is doing personal attacks. Saying I am a **** tank driver. I am a whiner. Ahh I love these. Then to try to prove your point you pull out paper stats that CCP gives you saying your right. Saying I am a **** tank driver and I suck. I think anyone who has played on the reverse side of my tank will say different. Those who play with me also can agree on my knowledge of using the battle field to my advantage. Saying I am about nerfing AV is pretty funny because you must not follow my threads. I feel AV needs to become a better career choice in this game and I have spoken out about that. I also feel it needs to have more risk involved in it. AKA reward players for killing AV. From here CCP will see more Proto AV hitting the field because they are getting better rewards in both sp and isk. After this it will allow both the players and CCP to see what needs balancing. Personally I feel small buffs to vehicles can easily balance this out. I feel modules are what ccp need to work on. Not the vehicles themself. But better balancing them by having better modules for them. But again AV needs to become a better choice. It needs to be something that is more specialized into. And have more risk. Right now the gap between standard and proto is pretty small in AV aspects. I think it needs a bigger spread leaving proto where it is at. but yes nerfing both adv and standard slightly. So they play better against vehicles at there lvl. People will have more of a reason to lvl into proto also. Then you sit back see how things play out. and make small adjustments to balance out the gameplay as needed.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 425	Posted - 2013.05.03 00:27:00 - [6] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Throwing out my LAV driver opinion- There's more to the AV game than just destroying HAVs. Just because a solution works with AV vs HAVs doesn't mean it works with AV vs LAVs and dropships. Bob I do not just talk about Tanks when it comes to AV Usually when I talk about ballancing I talk about it as a whole. My post before this shows that and my ideology on what needs to be done before true balancing can take place.