DUST Search - TO ALL BABYGIRLS WHO THINKS TANKS ARE I WIN BUTTON

Syther Shadows wrote:

Anmol Singh wrote:

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

BOZ MR wrote:

Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has?

I commend tankers for having the patience and dedication to skill into tanks. It requires a lot of SP and I'm sure it's an expensive skill to acquire.

There is no amount of debate that will convince me that they should be able to stroll around the map crushing infantry with reckless abandon though. If you get too close and get too careless our AV weapons should pop you.

You should have to be careful. It shouldn't guarantee 40-0 in an ambush. It seems like many tankers want it that way.

its not always that way, we loose our tanks to orbitals or we have to hide behind SHlT in the red line cuz theirs some noob with a
advanced swarm or even a standard, or some dude with a assult forge, you dont know how frustrating it is to sit their for 30 mins in skrmish doing nothing just to save you 800k tank, also we loose our tank quite easily, and in the uprising, were gonna start loosing tanks to charged sniper rifles cuz newberries cant kill us with their militia free gear... well actually they can... Its the newberries fault they want everything their way, they want the forge gun to 1hit alll tanks, they want orbitals for 100wp, they even want 200k isk for each 1 kill they get...

(in uprising)
you can call back vehicles by holding down O
get all your stuff back
also a decent tank cost more than 800k if i recall

i got a militia tank with militia stuff it it to cost 500k
and i don't even drive it
it's just sitting there

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BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 98	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:33:00 - [1] - Quote Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has?
Thor Odinson42 Planetary Response Organization 109	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:38:00 - [2] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has? I commend tankers for having the patience and dedication to skill into tanks. It requires a lot of SP and I'm sure it's an expensive skill to acquire. There is no amount of debate that will convince me that they should be able to stroll around the map crushing infantry with reckless abandon though. If you get too close and get too careless our AV weapons should pop you. You should have to be careful. It shouldn't guarantee 40-0 in an ambush. It seems like many tankers want it that way.
Smooth Head Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:39:00 - [3] - Quote Wow, your insight is one for the ages. Truly amazing stuff.
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 191	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:40:00 - [4] - Quote Can this thread be locked for all caps or does that rule not apply on this forum... hmm.
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 99	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:40:00 - [5] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has? I commend tankers for having the patience and dedication to skill into tanks. It requires a lot of SP and I'm sure it's an expensive skill to acquire. There is no amount of debate that will convince me that they should be able to stroll around the map crushing infantry with reckless abandon though. If you get too close and get too careless our AV weapons should pop you. You should have to be careful. It shouldn't guarantee 40-0 in an ambush. It seems like many tankers want it that way. It was never that way. Why our assault friends get more kills than I do? Nerf the assault , halve pg cpu and diminsh armor and shield to nothing.
Aisha Ctarl The Vanguardians Orion Empire 6	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:43:00 - [6] - Quote I for one don't want to waste SP on tanks when I can focus them on my character. This isn't like BF3 where tanks are just littered about the battlefield and any old blueberry can hop in and start pwning face. My thought process is why bother on those when I can have a good character instead.
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 99	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:44:00 - [7] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I for one don't want to waste SP on tanks when I can focus them on my character. This isn't like BF3 where tanks are just littered about the battlefield and any old blueberry can hop in and start pwning face. My thought process is why bother on those when I can have a good character instead. New tanks are worse than BF3 cardboxes
crazy space 1 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1085	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:45:00 - [8] - Quote uuuuugghh not another one... Tears off face
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 187	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:46:00 - [9] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has? Tanks are tools sure. And sure I can get a decent amount of flak on them. Its the good HAV pilots that are the I WIN buttons
DigiOps DUST University Ivy League 163	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:50:00 - [10] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has? I commend tankers for having the patience and dedication to skill into tanks. It requires a lot of SP and I'm sure it's an expensive skill to acquire. There is no amount of debate that will convince me that they should be able to stroll around the map crushing infantry with reckless abandon though. If you get too close and get too careless our AV weapons should pop you. You should have to be careful. It shouldn't guarantee 40-0 in an ambush. It seems like many tankers want it that way. To be fair, since a tank is such a powerful force on the field when skilled into with the proper fittings, it should take substantial skill (both SP and player) to be able to take one down. I don't think they should be able to go 40-0, no, but it wouldn't be such an issue if people quit relying on militia forge guns and swarms and actually invested SP into a reliable AV fitting.

RedEye McMannis Kat 5 Kaos 1	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:36:00 - [11] - Quote DigiOps wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has? I commend tankers for having the patience and dedication to skill into tanks. It requires a lot of SP and I'm sure it's an expensive skill to acquire. There is no amount of debate that will convince me that they should be able to stroll around the map crushing infantry with reckless abandon though. If you get too close and get too careless our AV weapons should pop you. You should have to be careful. It shouldn't guarantee 40-0 in an ambush. It seems like many tankers want it that way. To be fair, since a tank is such a powerful force on the field when skilled into with the proper fittings, it should take substantial skill (both SP and player) to be able to take one down. I don't think they should be able to go 40-0, no, but it wouldn't be such an issue if people quit relying on militia forge guns and swarms and actually invested SP into a reliable AV fitting. Agree.. BUT... in this tecnologically advanced age that is new eden, where we can instantly bring the dead back to life, have lasers and plasma weapons ect ect.. we cant seem to develop a missle that goes OVER or AROUND obstacles to hit its target... amazing. And while a speced AV'er might not kill that tank, said tank pilot knows that said AV'er is around.. A hiding tank is a far less effective tank.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 910	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:41:00 - [12] - Quote BOZ makes a good point. A lot of tankers I run into have also spec'd into one type of AV all the way to proto, yet the infantry guys will hide behind the fact it costs a lot of SP to get into tanking. How about this, the guys that say tanking is easy and have never tanked before, I will give you a militia fitted Gunnlogi, you survive the game and actually spend time on the front line with your team, I'll bow down to your words of great wisdom and intellect. You die within moments? You don't comment on AV v Tanks anymore.
Charlotte O'Dell Faabulous 213	Posted - 2013.05.03 00:32:00 - [13] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: BOZ makes a good point. A lot of tankers I run into have also spec'd into one type of AV all the way to proto, yet the infantry guys will hide behind the fact it costs a lot of SP to get into tanking. How about this, the guys that say tanking is easy and have never tanked before, I will give you a militia fitted Gunnlogi, you survive the game and actually spend time on the front line with your team, I'll bow down to your words of great wisdom and intellect. You die within moments? You don't comment on AV v Tanks anymore. PSH. I'd bet a perfectly fitted blaster surya they couldn't last 2 minutes on the front lines.
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 58	Posted - 2013.05.03 00:35:00 - [14] - Quote As if you bring a tank into Ambush to be anything less than an "I Win" machine.
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming EoN. 212	Posted - 2013.05.03 00:37:00 - [15] - Quote because i don't need to compensate for baby **** aim
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2013.05.03 00:50:00 - [16] - Quote I think the whole "role" idea should be tossed out the window. Remove all suits. Add one suit to rule them all. 100 shield, 100 armor, 250 CPU, 50 PG. 2 mids, 2 lows, light, sidearm, grenade. Remove all vehicles. Replace with above suit. Remove all weapons. Replace with instagib rifle. Game balanced enough for everyone now? EDIT: Actually, no slots. All suits come prefit with militia gear and cannot be swapped out. Can't allow anyone to be better than anyone else.
Jikt Terlen Certificate of Participation 13	Posted - 2013.05.03 02:12:00 - [17] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: BOZ makes a good point. A lot of tankers I run into have also spec'd into one type of AV all the way to proto, yet the infantry guys will hide behind the fact it costs a lot of SP to get into tanking. How about this, the guys that say tanking is easy and have never tanked before, I will give you a militia fitted Gunnlogi, you survive the game and actually spend time on the front line with your team, I'll bow down to your words of great wisdom and intellect. You die within moments? You don't comment on AV v Tanks anymore. I suck with tanks, but I also have hardly ever actually fielded a tank. Maybe ten times, all of which ended quickly and badly. There's no question they require skill. They also require practice, especially with Dust's horrible module activation system, so let's not pretend that anyone mopping up the field in a tank has just jumped in one for the first time, as you're suggesting. A lot of the people I see in tanks don't venture past the redline without a full tank and 2-3 infantry on the ground supporting them, so it's not as though it's merely their own skill that's making them successful. Part of the problem with tanks is that there are quite a few really good tankers, who will indeed go something like 40-0 without coordinated AV opposition. Enough so that there are also a lot of people with AV skills and non-militia AV gear ready to pull it out when there's a tank around. As such, it's a lot harder to learn to do well in a tank than it was when a lot of these guys polished their tank skills in closed beta. All the more reason why we need a sandbox mode of sorts so new players can practice not sucking in tanks (and dropships and so on). Only tangentially related: My favorite tank experience so far was a guy who perched a tank at the tippy top of the tall hill overlooking Objective A on Manus Peak and was spawn camping it -- bear in mind he had to point the tank downhill from up there, teetering over the cliff, to even aim at the ground. I got a chuckle out of that one. Eventually he plummeted all the way down the hill, but somehow didn't explode. I didn't begrudge him the kills, as that was pretty inventive.
boba's fetta Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers 35	Posted - 2013.05.03 02:45:00 - [18] - Quote ive been playing around with tanks recently. and they are super easy TO GET KILLED. the best round i had in my tank was when my team covered my backend, with freedom of movement and distractions to allow me to disengage the other team got stomped. it wasnt the tank that did this the team would of won either way i just sped things up.
Re Warping Shooter Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 14	Posted - 2013.05.03 02:49:00 - [19] - Quote They turned the tanks into militia tanks in uprising. In actual dust you can solo a tank with a nanohive + 3 AV nades, in uprising you wont even need the nanohive.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 242	Posted - 2013.05.03 02:50:00 - [20] - Quote yeah, I think tankers are girls really. they get a single point of damage and they run screaming for the hills, skirt hiked over their legs. 1 swarm? RUN AWAY! 1 forge shot? RUN AWAY! Bump a rock? RUN AWAY! Enemy scout ****ing riverdancing on your topgun? KILL YOURSELF IN THE REDLINE TRYING TO RUN AWAY!(personal favorite there)

Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 252	Posted - 2013.05.03 02:51:00 - [21] - Quote It's been a very long time since I've heard that...lol. Seriously. Win button? Yeah. :/ I wish people thought that so I could kill more tanks.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 802	Posted - 2013.05.03 03:24:00 - [22] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Enemy scout ****ing riverdancing on your topgun? KILL YOURSELF IN THE REDLINE TRYING TO RUN AWAY!(personal favorite there) This is one of my favorite tactics. I've lost count of the number of times I've sat on top of a tank with only one person in it and driven them apekitten. I also find it hilarious that I have yet to see these hardcore tankers refute the RL fact that AV one-shots tanks. In several of these threads that the QQ tankers have started, I posted video of a T-72 tank (Standard) being completely blown apart by a single FGM-178 Javelin (Advanced). By comparison, Dust tanks, even the supposedly nerfed ones, are way better protected. However, since truth doesn't fit their worldview, they keep making new threads instead of facing the reality that tanks are never an "I win button". They are designed to be immune to small arms, not anti-armor. Tanks MUST rely on a full crew and an infantry screen or they are likely to die.
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 73	Posted - 2013.05.03 03:30:00 - [23] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has? I commend tankers for having the patience and dedication to skill into tanks. It requires a lot of SP and I'm sure it's an expensive skill to acquire. There is no amount of debate that will convince me that they should be able to stroll around the map crushing infantry with reckless abandon though. If you get too close and get too careless our AV weapons should pop you. You should have to be careful. It shouldn't guarantee 40-0 in an ambush. It seems like many tankers want it that way. its not always that way, we loose our tanks to orbitals or we have to hide behind SHlT in the red line cuz theirs some noob with a advanced swarm or even a standard, or some dude with a assult forge, you dont know how frustrating it is to sit their for 30 mins in skrmish doing nothing just to save you 800k tank, also we loose our tank quite easily, and in the uprising, were gonna start loosing tanks to charged sniper rifles cuz newberries cant kill us with their militia free gear... well actually they can... Its the newberries fault they want everything their way, they want the forge gun to 1hit alll tanks, they want orbitals for 100wp, they even want 200k isk for each 1 kill they get...
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 63	Posted - 2013.05.03 03:50:00 - [24] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has? I commend tankers for having the patience and dedication to skill into tanks. It requires a lot of SP and I'm sure it's an expensive skill to acquire. There is no amount of debate that will convince me that they should be able to stroll around the map crushing infantry with reckless abandon though. If you get too close and get too careless our AV weapons should pop you. You should have to be careful. It shouldn't guarantee 40-0 in an ambush. It seems like many tankers want it that way. its not always that way, we loose our tanks to orbitals or we have to hide behind SHlT in the red line cuz theirs some noob with a advanced swarm or even a standard, or some dude with a assult forge, you dont know how frustrating it is to sit their for 30 mins in skrmish doing nothing just to save you 800k tank, also we loose our tank quite easily, and in the uprising, were gonna start loosing tanks to charged sniper rifles cuz newberries cant kill us with their militia free gear... well actually they can... Its the newberries fault they want everything their way, they want the forge gun to 1hit alll tanks, they want orbitals for 100wp, they even want 200k isk for each 1 kill they get... (in uprising) you can call back vehicles by holding down O get all your stuff back also a decent tank cost more than 800k if i recall i got a militia tank with militia stuff it it to cost 500k and i don't even drive it it's just sitting there
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 74	Posted - 2013.05.03 04:55:00 - [25] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Why don't you try them, you have the same tools as I and every other legit tanker has? I commend tankers for having the patience and dedication to skill into tanks. It requires a lot of SP and I'm sure it's an expensive skill to acquire. There is no amount of debate that will convince me that they should be able to stroll around the map crushing infantry with reckless abandon though. If you get too close and get too careless our AV weapons should pop you. You should have to be careful. It shouldn't guarantee 40-0 in an ambush. It seems like many tankers want it that way. its not always that way, we loose our tanks to orbitals or we have to hide behind SHlT in the red line cuz theirs some noob with a advanced swarm or even a standard, or some dude with a assult forge, you dont know how frustrating it is to sit their for 30 mins in skrmish doing nothing just to save you 800k tank, also we loose our tank quite easily, and in the uprising, were gonna start loosing tanks to charged sniper rifles cuz newberries cant kill us with their militia free gear... well actually they can... Its the newberries fault they want everything their way, they want the forge gun to 1hit alll tanks, they want orbitals for 100wp, they even want 200k isk for each 1 kill they get... (in uprising) you can call back vehicles by holding down O get all your stuff back also a decent tank cost more than 800k if i recall i got a militia tank with militia stuff it it to cost 500k and i don't even drive it it's just sitting there 800k is my gunnlogi, 2.5mil mu sagaris- only for special occasions
BatKing Deltor Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY 15	Posted - 2013.05.03 05:02:00 - [26] - Quote 753k gunnlogi 701k madrugar 600k sica 473k soma Do I use them every match? No. Do I complain about losing one? No not worth it. Fun to use? Yea. And it depends how you use it, drive around care free then your sorta screwed. Be aware of your surroundings, better chances to survive.
DJINN Marauder Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 512	Posted - 2013.05.03 05:09:00 - [27] - Quote I hear tankers complain about MLT forges and swarms killing their tanks all the time lol. Are the tankers that bad? Cuz i know for sure MLT forges/swarms do **** against std tanks. That is ofcourse if you fit it decently.
Herrick Arcos The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries 90	Posted - 2013.05.03 05:53:00 - [28] - Quote People are forgetting that the hills, ground and pebbles are our arch nemeses. I loose more tanks to random explosions than I do to orbitals and tanks, it parallels the danger AV poses without the personal touch. More than ten times I have been sitting on a hillside, minding my own and spawn camping only to have my tank commit suicide, or be murdered by the ground. I would much rather have the ground nerfed than AV at this point. Just saying.


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