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Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:30:00 -
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Very troubling to see a vast amount of the AFK Exploiters boasting on forums with out any type of action by the game developers.
This is a first for me .... people are actively ruining the game experience for others and theres no action ingame nor on the boards.
I hope the next patch fixes the AFK Issue ....has there been any word if it does from people from fanfest?
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Musta Tornius
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:31:00 -
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CCP has got a team together to work on the AFK issue, no idea when the fixes will be implemented though. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:33:00 -
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oooooooooooooooooooooooh wrote: Very troubling to see a vast amount of the AFK Exploiters boasting on forums with out any type of action by the game developers.
This is a first for me .... people are actively ruining the game experience for others and theres no action ingame nor on the boards.
I hope the next patch fixes the AFK Issue ....has there been any word if it does from people from fanfest?
AFKers boast because dimwits like you get butthurt so much about it. Any AFKer will tell that AFKing is one of the most boring things you can do. Its because clowns like you keep coming on the forums and QQing about gives AFKers reason to troll you to kingdom come.
CCP knows this and that's why they STFU. |
Deranged Disaster
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:33:00 -
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CCP would be silly if they punished people for using their flawed mechanics to their advantage. |
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Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:37:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:CCP would be silly if they punished people for using their flawed mechanics to their advantage.
Sure just like the Mining Moon exploit on EVE, oh wait they did something about that ??? |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:39:00 -
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How about if you spend more than a minute in the MCC you character gets turned into a pair of giant buttcheeks on legs and gets forcibly thrown into the midst of battle. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:41:00 -
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Haha, the reason they do it is the same reason anyone cheats, they want a short cut. Trying to tell me you do it only so you can see ppl cry is not any better, but thats not why, you do it for the exploit of quick and easy SP. You all have the moral make up of a welfare scammer or any of the other wastes of space that exploit systems with no regard for the rest of us. You have no honor and I am just blessed to not have to know any ppl like that irl. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:53:00 -
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Well you're exactly right OP! And if you know anything about me, man, then you know that I've been receiving a lot hate, both in game and here on the forums, for being vocal about this issue. But then again you know me, I don't give a ****! The way I see, after delving into the minds of the "AFK men", and trust me, OP, I've been there on the fronts line since the beginning of this incident, I've realised that even when you lay down the law on these dudes it doesn't really change anything cause that's how they get by, no big deal there. I let that slide. What bothers me here, is that we have entire alliances that actively endorse this type of behaviour and I just couldn't take it anymore, guys! But you guys know me, man, I always come up with a solution: Here's my 5 step plan to solve this problem. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:55:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Haha, the reason they do it is the same reason anyone cheats, they want a short cut. Trying to tell me you do it only so you can see ppl cry is not any better, but thats not why, you do it for the exploit of quick and easy SP. You all have the moral make up of a welfare scammer or any of the other wastes of space that exploit systems with no regard for the rest of us. You have no honor and I am just blessed to not have to know any ppl like that irl.
You're exactly right, Jin. The fact of the matter is that anyone who goes into a game looking for a shortcut at anyone's expense and then comes up to the forums to see others "cry" as they put it... Well that's a piece of **** in my books and I don't give a **** what kind of excuses they come up with! |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 14:57:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Haha, the reason they do it is the same reason anyone cheats, they want a short cut. Trying to tell me you do it only so you can see ppl cry is not any better, but thats not why, you do it for the exploit of quick and easy SP. You all have the moral make up of a welfare scammer or any of the other wastes of space that exploit systems with no regard for the rest of us. You have no honor and I am just blessed to not have to know any ppl like that irl.
hell yeah
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Chris F2112
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:21:00 -
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I was AFK all day yesterday, and I guess it did have to do with getting a shortcut, or at least a step ahead. I didn't have the time to actually play, but I didn't want to let 3 weeks of SP go to waste either. I did the only logical thing. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1127
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:22:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:I was AFK all day yesterday, and I guess it did have to do with getting a shortcut, or at least a step ahead. I didn't have the time to actually play, but I didn't want to let 3 weeks of SP go to waste either. I did the only logical thing.
+1. People are actually butthurt about missing 900K SP |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:24:00 -
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I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:26:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:I was AFK all day yesterday, and I guess it did have to do with getting a shortcut, or at least a step ahead. I didn't have the time to actually play, but I didn't want to let 3 weeks of SP go to waste either. I did the only logical thing.
At least you're being a man about it. This is exactly what I mean, you had to what you had to do, no big deal. You came clean about it respectfully. I don't agree with you AFKing but at least I don't despise you. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1130
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason
Explaining sense to the ignorant is like snowboading in the Sahara. Try as you may you aint gonna get it done.
+1 |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1130
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:28:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:I was AFK all day yesterday, and I guess it did have to do with getting a shortcut, or at least a step ahead. I didn't have the time to actually play, but I didn't want to let 3 weeks of SP go to waste either. I did the only logical thing. At least you're being a man about it. This is exactly what I mean, you had to what you had to do, no big deal. You came clean about it respectfully. I don't agree with you AFKing but at least I don't despise you.
DILLIGAF? |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:30:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason Jesus Christ that's the most dumb thing I've heard ever since I entered these forums, and that's saying a lot! That's like saying Jerry Sandusky was just trying to make the cops to catch more child molesters! |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:31:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason Jesus Christ that's the most dumb thing I've heard ever since I entered these forums, and that's saying a lot! That's like saying Jerry Sandusky was just trying to make the cops to catch more child molesters!
Sentient Archon wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason Explaining sense to the ignorant is like snowboading in the Sahara. Try as you may you aint gonna get it done. +1
See! I rest my case! |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:34:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason Jesus Christ that's the most dumb thing I've heard ever since I entered these forums, and that's saying a lot! That's like saying Jerry Sandusky was just trying to make the cops to catch more child molesters! Okay..hope they don't fix it then..you will see when cod players finally come over they love boosting you would never find a good match then you will see why we did this |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:37:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason Jesus Christ that's the most dumb thing I've heard ever since I entered these forums, and that's saying a lot! That's like saying Jerry Sandusky was just trying to make the cops to catch more child molesters! Okay..hope they don't fix it then..you will see when cod players finally come over they love boosting you would never find a good match then you will see why we did this Oh so you're now the hero here? Such a big man! You're the reason they need to use resources on fixing this BS now instead of doing something else for Christ! |
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:41:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason Jesus Christ that's the most dumb thing I've heard ever since I entered these forums, and that's saying a lot! That's like saying Jerry Sandusky was just trying to make the cops to catch more child molesters! Okay..hope they don't fix it then..you will see when cod players finally come over they love boosting you would never find a good match then you will see why we did this Oh so you're now the hero here? Such a big man! You're the reason they need to use resources on fixing this BS now instead of doing something else for Christ! Haha when I'm afk I'm going poop I don't do it for sp because I don't need the sp I'm good where I'm at, I enjoy killing people..but who cares rite your to dumb to see logic soo. |
steadyhand amarr
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:41:00 -
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I hope ccp does a valve on this issue just so I can see all the rage :-) |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:50:00 -
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We have said bedore that it should be 5sp per wp and 1sp per second in battle instead of the other way around but they didn't listen to us so don't blame us we tried to fix this before it got this bad but no one liked that idea because it was brought up by an imperfect |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:54:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:We have said bedore that it should be 5sp per wp and 1sp per second in battle instead of the other way around but they didn't listen to us so don't blame us we tried to fix this before it got this bad but no one liked that idea because it was brought up by an imperfect I don't give a **** who brings up an idea and who doesn't. Fact of the matter is that AFKing is ruining game experience for others and you justify it by saying "Oh someone else is going to do it anyways so I might as well do it now"! **** that I say, that attitude is one of the biggest problems we have, not only in this game but in this planet! |
Nstomper
Disqualified
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:55:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:We have said bedore that it should be 5sp per wp and 1sp per second in battle instead of the other way around but they didn't listen to us so don't blame us we tried to fix this before it got this bad but no one liked that idea because it was brought up by an imperfect well you guys do have a bad rep |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1131
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:00:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:We have said bedore that it should be 5sp per wp and 1sp per second in battle instead of the other way around but they didn't listen to us so don't blame us we tried to fix this before it got this bad but no one liked that idea because it was brought up by an imperfect well you guys do have a bad rep
Who cares about rep man? When you start witch hunting before reading you are shooting yourself in the foot. The Imps whether you like it or not have done a lot of the community. More than these ******* clowns who QQ all the time.
As long as the job gets done! |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:05:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Nstomper wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:We have said bedore that it should be 5sp per wp and 1sp per second in battle instead of the other way around but they didn't listen to us so don't blame us we tried to fix this before it got this bad but no one liked that idea because it was brought up by an imperfect well you guys do have a bad rep Who cares about rep man? When you start witch hunting before reading you are shooting yourself in the foot. The Imps whether you like it or not have done a lot of the community. More than these ******* clowns who QQ all the time. As long as the job gets done! Thank you, I brought up the fix to afk again once again its up to everyone else though |
Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:05:00 -
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[quote=Sentient Archon
AFKers boast because dimwits like you get butthurt so much about it. Any AFKer will tell that AFKing is one of the most boring things you can do. Its because clowns like you keep coming on the forums and QQing about gives AFKers reason to troll you to kingdom come.
CCP knows this and that's why they STFU.[/quote]
Never heard an afker say they do it to **** people off, but shouldn't that be an even bigger reason to deal with it? |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
35
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:06:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:We have said bedore that it should be 5sp per wp and 1sp per second in battle instead of the other way around but they didn't listen to us so don't blame us we tried to fix this before it got this bad but no one liked that idea because it was brought up by an imperfect well you guys do have a bad rep Not only do they have a bad rep, they're just like Democrats and Republicans! They have nothing to do with the solution because they are the problem! There's 2 alliances in this game who endorse AFK farming and they're one of them! Bottom line, I don't give a **** what anyone says. |
Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:08:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Haha, the reason they do it is the same reason anyone cheats, they want a short cut. Trying to tell me you do it only so you can see ppl cry is not any better, but thats not why, you do it for the exploit of quick and easy SP. You all have the moral make up of a welfare scammer or any of the other wastes of space that exploit systems with no regard for the rest of us. You have no honor and I am just blessed to not have to know any ppl like that irl.
This. x1000. |
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Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:09:00 -
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Tiberion Deci wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:
AFKers boast because dimwits like you get butthurt so much about it. Any AFKer will tell that AFKing is one of the most boring things you can do. Its because clowns like you keep coming on the forums and QQing about gives AFKers reason to troll you to kingdom come.
CCP knows this and that's why they STFU.
Never heard an afker say they do it to **** people off, but shouldn't that be an even bigger reason to deal with it?
Common! This coming from a Dreddit dude? Meta gaming is not just limited to trolling and griefing. Talk to any psyches out there and there will tell you there is more to meta gaming. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:10:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Nstomper wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:We have said bedore that it should be 5sp per wp and 1sp per second in battle instead of the other way around but they didn't listen to us so don't blame us we tried to fix this before it got this bad but no one liked that idea because it was brought up by an imperfect well you guys do have a bad rep Bottom line, I don't give a **** what anyone says. Pretty sure most of us feel that way towards you after reading how you bang your imaginary girl and how that relates to a video game lol
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Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:12:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Nstomper wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:We have said bedore that it should be 5sp per wp and 1sp per second in battle instead of the other way around but they didn't listen to us so don't blame us we tried to fix this before it got this bad but no one liked that idea because it was brought up by an imperfect well you guys do have a bad rep Who cares about rep man? When you start witch hunting before reading you are shooting yourself in the foot. The Imps whether you like it or not have done a lot of the community. More than these ******* clowns who QQ all the time. As long as the job gets done! Thank you, I brought up the fix to afk again once again its up to everyone else though This dude cracks me up, guys. I'm gonna call you Jerry from now on, man. |
Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:12:00 -
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Afk farming is on you guys I gave a solution and you shot me down..why do I try? |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:14:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Afk farming is on you guys I gave a solution and you shot me down..why do I try? Listen up, Jerry, I have nothing against your solution, bro. I have something against you claiming that AFK farming helps to solve the AFK farming problem. Jesus Christ man, It is the problem! |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
129
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:19:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason
^that makes as much sense as robbing a bank to help the bank improve security.
At least in that case, the bank robbers would be giving the money back, I bet the AFK farmers will just continue to expect something for nothing with no punishment. |
Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:22:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason ^that makes as much sense as robbing a bank to help the bank improve security. At least in that case, the bank robbers would be giving the money back, I bet the AFK farmers will just continue to expect something for nothing with no punishment. I'm just saying now they know about it before we get out of beta that's what a beta is for to find the glitches or boosting methods |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:22:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason ^that makes as much sense as robbing a bank to help the bank improve security. At least in that case, the bank robbers would be giving the money back, I bet the AFK farmers will just continue to expect something for nothing with no punishment. Exactly right, man! With all due respect I still prefer my Jerry Sandusky comparison! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:23:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason ^that makes as much sense as robbing a bank to help the bank improve security. At least in that case, the bank robbers would be giving the money back, I bet the AFK farmers will just continue to expect something for nothing with no punishment. I'm going to have to agree with this. I know a lot of us - myself included - would just take our beating from CCP if they decided to take away the AFK sp - but I doubt most others would be as chill. A lot of threads openly suggest and say they're entitled to CCP's screw up. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
38
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:26:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason ^that makes as much sense as robbing a bank to help the bank improve security. At least in that case, the bank robbers would be giving the money back, I bet the AFK farmers will just continue to expect something for nothing with no punishment. I'm going to have to agree with this. I know a lot of us - myself included - would just take our beating from CCP if they decided to take away the AFK sp - but I doubt most others would be as chill. A lot of threads openly suggest and say they're entitled to CCP's screw up. Hallelujah! The guy actually tries to make sense! |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
129
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:28:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason ^that makes as much sense as robbing a bank to help the bank improve security. At least in that case, the bank robbers would be giving the money back, I bet the AFK farmers will just continue to expect something for nothing with no punishment. I'm going to have to agree with this. I know a lot of us - myself included - would just take our beating from CCP if they decided to take away the AFK sp - but I doubt most others would be as chill. A lot of threads openly suggest and say they're entitled to CCP's screw up.
I seriously hope that as "payment for their help" they get to keep a minimal amount of SP for their "AFK bughunting". 1500 per day since the start of this ****, no more, no less.
They profit for their help, though not hugely as I assume most expect to. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:30:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason ^that makes as much sense as robbing a bank to help the bank improve security. At least in that case, the bank robbers would be giving the money back, I bet the AFK farmers will just continue to expect something for nothing with no punishment. I'm going to have to agree with this. I know a lot of us - myself included - would just take our beating from CCP if they decided to take away the AFK sp - but I doubt most others would be as chill. A lot of threads openly suggest and say they're entitled to CCP's screw up. I seriously hope that as "payment for their help" they get to keep a minimal amount of SP for their "AFK bughunting". 1500 per day since the start of this ****, no more, no less. They profit for their help, though not hugely as I assume most expect to. Well we've got to give Jerry at least 3000 as he was the one who came up with the solution! |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:33:00 -
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I don't want anything I just want this game to succeed, its a one of a kind |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:34:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason ^that makes as much sense as robbing a bank to help the bank improve security. At least in that case, the bank robbers would be giving the money back, I bet the AFK farmers will just continue to expect something for nothing with no punishment. I'm going to have to agree with this. I know a lot of us - myself included - would just take our beating from CCP if they decided to take away the AFK sp - but I doubt most others would be as chill. A lot of threads openly suggest and say they're entitled to CCP's screw up. Hallelujah! The guy actually tries to make sense! lol - Let me emphasis something for you since you seem new. Every person in this forum - every single one - said not to do SP per second because of AFK farmers. CCP trolls us way too much - and then they do this crap even after a thousand warning and 2 thread juggernauts. for there idiocy I have no problem with AFK farming myself and will not give anyone crossed eyes for doing it themselves - especially the forum goers who are taking the most heat for trolling back.
But it's gone beyond telling CCP they're butt-tards. It's become a fad and the 'cool' thing to do. So for me - at least - it's starting to become unacceptable. But it still doesn't change CCP enabled this to happen knowing it would and stated nothing negative towards the part of the community that does do this - and in fact - are qouted as saying it's ACCEPTABLE as they want mercs to play how they want - and that includes sabotage. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:36:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I don't want anything I just want this game to succeed, its a one of a kind Exactly right, Jerry, and that's exactly why I'm so God damn passionate about this whole thing! I mean I'm an intense person overall, everyone knows that, but when I see people who try to eat this great community and game up from the inside, man, that's when I'm going to react. |
Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:41:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote: Common! This coming from a Dreddit dude? Meta gaming is not just limited to trolling and griefing. Talk to any psyches out there and there will tell you there is more to meta gaming.
Gosh I know I shouldn't feed the trolls but alas my vanity has gotten the better of me.
I would lay out an argument complete with support and facts and logic, but since you assume I'm in Dreddit I have to assume you either can't or won't read so that's out of the picture (not an Eve player, just Dust, no Dreddit membership, only affiliation). I will also try to keep this short so you may be able to understand bits and pieces.
I earned all of my 7.2 million SP. I have never afkd a single game. I think its cowardly. I think its ******. I think its cheating. And I think it is ruining the game for myself and others who want to play. And people that do it are reaping some of the benefits without putting in the work, and that is ****** to all of us who want to earn everything fairly. Afking doesn't make you clever. You're not being smart by taking advantage of the parameters of the game. It makes you something just short of a cheater. And you're ruining the game for everyone else.
I have more to say but I've already said too much. *sigh*
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Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
38
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:42:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I know a few that do this just to have ccp work on fixing it you may not notice that but a lot of people are doing it for that reason ^that makes as much sense as robbing a bank to help the bank improve security. At least in that case, the bank robbers would be giving the money back, I bet the AFK farmers will just continue to expect something for nothing with no punishment. I'm going to have to agree with this. I know a lot of us - myself included - would just take our beating from CCP if they decided to take away the AFK sp - but I doubt most others would be as chill. A lot of threads openly suggest and say they're entitled to CCP's screw up. Hallelujah! The guy actually tries to make sense! lol - Let me emphasis something for you since you seem new. Every person in this forum - every single one - said not to do SP per second because of AFK farmers. CCP trolls us way too much - and then they do this crap even after a thousand warning and 2 thread juggernauts. for there idiocy I have no problem with AFK farming myself and will not give anyone crossed eyes for doing it themselves - especially the forum goers who are taking the most heat for trolling back. But it's gone beyond telling CCP they're butt-tards. It's become a fad and the 'cool' thing to do. So for me - at least - it's starting to become unacceptable. But it still doesn't change CCP enabled this to happen knowing it would and stated nothing negative towards the part of the community that does do this - and in fact - are qouted as saying it's ACCEPTABLE as they want mercs to play how they want - and that includes sabotage. See here's the thing, man, I have nothing against sabotage, subterfuge or trying do whatever we wanna do when it comes PC and corp relationships and stuff like that. Like you said, it's a sandbox. What I do have a problem with is that when more casual or new players show up and they're expecting to enjoy the gaming experience, all of a sudden you have 4 people AFK on their team! And oh yeah, CCP should have fixed it. They haven't though and that's not a good enough reason to go AFK farm like a ************! It's another thing to protest against CCP, but I have a feeling this whole AFK thing ends up hurting the game and community more than it's gonna motivate CCP. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
38
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:44:00 -
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Tiberion Deci wrote:Sentient Archon wrote: Common! This coming from a Dreddit dude? Meta gaming is not just limited to trolling and griefing. Talk to any psyches out there and there will tell you there is more to meta gaming.
Gosh I know I shouldn't feed the trolls but alas my vanity has gotten the better of me. I would lay out an argument complete with support and facts and logic, but since you assume I'm in Dreddit I have to assume you either can't or won't read so that's out of the picture (not an Eve player, just Dust, no Dreddit membership, only affiliation). I will also try to keep this short so you may be able to understand bits and pieces. I earned all of my 7.2 million SP. I have never afkd a single game. I think its cowardly. I think its ******. I think its cheating. And I think it is ruining the game for myself and others who want to play. And people that do it are reaping some of the benefits without putting in the work, and that is ****** to all of us who want to earn everything fairly. Afking doesn't make you clever. You're not being smart by taking advantage of the parameters of the game. It makes you something just short of a cheater. And you're ruining the game for everyone else. I have more to say but I've already said too much. *sigh* Tell 'em! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2087
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:53:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote: See here's the thing, man, I have nothing against sabotage, subterfuge or trying do whatever we wanna do when it comes PC and corp relationships and stuff like that. Like you said, it's a sandbox. What I do have a problem with is that when more casual or new players show up and they're expecting to enjoy the gaming experience, all of a sudden you have 4 people AFK on their team! And oh yeah, CCP should have fixed it. They haven't though and that's not a good enough reason to go AFK farm like a ************! It's another thing to protest against CCP, but I have a feeling this whole AFK thing ends up hurting the game and community more than it's gonna motivate CCP.
I completely agree. It does hurt us when new players join and see 4 people in the MCC playing poker. I'm hoping come may 6th the majority of them stop in favor of FW and PC - where AFK farming will get them nothing but banned from there corp.
I was in 2 squads of imps last night and both of them were saying they didn't much like the AFK farming being possible - but hey, most the imps in particular have been around longer then I have which is over a year of the same game mode - No new content for this long and a weekly SP cap people need to hit to keep relevant come any major updates forced a lot of AFK farming.
It's a sad thing and I do completely blame CCP who should of figured out this problem 2 damn years ago instead of barely working on it since January. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1134
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:53:00 -
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Tiberion Deci wrote:Sentient Archon wrote: Common! This coming from a Dreddit dude? Meta gaming is not just limited to trolling and griefing. Talk to any psyches out there and there will tell you there is more to meta gaming.
Gosh I know I shouldn't feed the trolls but alas my vanity has gotten the better of me. I would lay out an argument complete with support and facts and logic, but since you assume I'm in Dreddit I have to assume you either can't or won't read so that's out of the picture (not an Eve player, just Dust, no Dreddit membership, only affiliation). I will also try to keep this short so you may be able to understand bits and pieces. I earned all of my 7.2 million SP. I have never afkd a single game. I think its cowardly. I think its ******. I think its cheating. And I think it is ruining the game for myself and others who want to play. And people that do it are reaping some of the benefits without putting in the work, and that is ****** to all of us who want to earn everything fairly. Afking doesn't make you clever. You're not being smart by taking advantage of the parameters of the game. It makes you something just short of a cheater. And you're ruining the game for everyone else. I have more to say but I've already said too much. *sigh*
Anything FTW. Lie, cheat, steal, kill, propaganda and the kitchen sink. Call me a cheater;- DILLIGAF?
In the end I am 4 million SP ahead of you.
And its nice to see that people like me are harvesting tears from Dreddit ! Oh the joy |
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copy left
The Wanderer Copy Left
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:56:00 -
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Im gonna be that guy and say, welcome to New Eden |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
151
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:03:00 -
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We were the first beta testers yet we are disliked and ignored |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1134
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:07:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:We were the first beta testers yet we are disliked and ignored
I learnt how not to give a **** a long time ago. No point with the sissy wissies here. All if not most of them cant last a second in a gun fight. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
376
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AFKing can be a benefit to the team
Lets take a player and call him bob
Bob is a sniper, a bad one tho, he returns to the same place where he died several times, at the end of the match bob goes 0-7, bob would have helped the team if he AFK'd by not using up clones
Back on the forums bob is hated because he is a bad sniper but he has done nothing all game and got 0 WP but he still gets SP, now bob basically AFK'd a different way by dying once in a while on the mountain somewhere but he did nothing for the team
Bob ways are no different to an AFKer, he didnt help the team and took up clones thats even worse than an AFKer at least he stays alive
AFKing will be around until its fixed, during the epic grind yday i didnt AFK once, i did the 'bob the sniper' method and basically died while i tried to snipe, i played but i didnt give it my all is that AFKing? |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
628
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:08:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:DILLIGAF?
And yet here you are, responding for the umpteenth time.
Nobody "GAF" about how much SP you have, dude. You aren't really the issue here; 9v15 pub matches and the game's hemorrhaging of new players is the problem. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
365
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:17:00 -
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Give mercs the freedom to play how they want, regardless if that kills the game. Call it AFK 514 and watch it sink. Nobody will give that game second look. You would have it all to yourselves, till you all decided to go "help" some other game..right into its grave. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1137
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:18:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote: And yet here you are, responding for the umpteenth time.
Im bored! Trolling you clowns is fun
Knarf Black wrote:
Nobody "GAF" about how much SP you have, dude.
They will. When I kill them and teabag their sorry asses
Knarf Black wrote: You aren't really the issue here; 9v15 pub matches and the game's hemorrhaging of new players is the problem
If I am on other side I am always a problem |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1137
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:19:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Give mercs the freedom to play how they want, regardless if that kills the game. Call it AFK 514 and watch it sink. Nobody will give that game second look. You would have it all to yourselves, till you all decided to go "help" some other game..right into its grave.
Doomsday prophet!
If this game dies it will die because of lack of content;- not AFK players |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
368
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:20:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:AFKing can be a benefit to the team
Lets take a player and call him bob
Bob is a sniper, a bad one tho, he returns to the same place where he died several times, at the end of the match bob goes 0-7, bob would have helped the team if he AFK'd by not using up clones
Back on the forums bob is hated because he is a bad sniper but he has done nothing all game and got 0 WP but he still gets SP, now bob basically AFK'd a different way by dying once in a while on the mountain somewhere but he did nothing for the team
Bob ways are no different to an AFKer, he didnt help the team and took up clones thats even worse than an AFKer at least he stays alive
AFKing will be around until its fixed, during the epic grind yday i didnt AFK once, i did the 'bob the sniper' method and basically died while i tried to snipe, i played but i didnt give it my all is that AFKing? One of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on here. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
368
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:26:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Give mercs the freedom to play how they want, regardless if that kills the game. Call it AFK 514 and watch it sink. Nobody will give that game second look. You would have it all to yourselves, till you all decided to go "help" some other game..right into its grave. Doomsday prophet ! If this game dies it will die because of lack of content;- not AFK players So some new player tries this game and has multiple options for content (you are a spoiled brat) and joins a match. He sees you and five of your buddies chilling in the MCC. Your team is destroyed. New player never comes back, therefore never has a chance to be upset about "lack of content". Your logic is as flawed as your morals. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
380
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:27:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:AFKing can be a benefit to the team
Lets take a player and call him bob
Bob is a sniper, a bad one tho, he returns to the same place where he died several times, at the end of the match bob goes 0-7, bob would have helped the team if he AFK'd by not using up clones
Back on the forums bob is hated because he is a bad sniper but he has done nothing all game and got 0 WP but he still gets SP, now bob basically AFK'd a different way by dying once in a while on the mountain somewhere but he did nothing for the team
Bob ways are no different to an AFKer, he didnt help the team and took up clones thats even worse than an AFKer at least he stays alive
AFKing will be around until its fixed, during the epic grind yday i didnt AFK once, i did the 'bob the sniper' method and basically died while i tried to snipe, i played but i didnt give it my all is that AFKing? One of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on here.
Im right jim
That bad sniper is costing you clones and giving free WP to the enemy for that OB
The guy AFKing is doing nothing so you are a man down but thats as far as it goes
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Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1137
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:31:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Give mercs the freedom to play how they want, regardless if that kills the game. Call it AFK 514 and watch it sink. Nobody will give that game second look. You would have it all to yourselves, till you all decided to go "help" some other game..right into its grave. Doomsday prophet ! If this game dies it will die because of lack of content;- not AFK players So some new player tries this game and has multiple options for content (you are a spoiled brat) and joins a match. He sees you and five of your buddies chilling in the MCC. Your team is destroyed. New player never comes back, therefore never has a chance to be upset about "lack of content". Your logic is as flawed as your morals.
Well boo hoo hoo! We have been askingto segregate noobs form vets for a long time. You think we enjoy fighting noobs. All vets I know love a good fight. I want my red dot to shoot me in the face and teabag my sorry ass and vice versa. Not some ******* noob that stands in the middle of the field waiting to get his head blown off by me.
And **** morals. Get real son! Morals aint gonna pay the ******* bills. |
Pryke Bastion
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:38:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:
I was in 2 squads of imps last night and both of them were saying they didn't much like the AFK farming being possible - but hey, most the imps in particular have been around longer then I have which is over a year of the same game mode - No new content for this long and a weekly SP cap people need to hit to keep relevant come any major updates forced a lot of AFK farming.
It worries me how many players buy into the mentality of "keeping up with the Jones's."
You don't need to grind max SP every week to stay relevant. I mean, it's great having options in your skill tree, but once you've reached a certain threshold, it's all going to be extra icing at that point anyways.
Ruining the game for others under the false pretext of "Standing in the MCC in protest" is a fat load of BS. You want free SP. I personally hope CCP fixes the issue by completely removing Active SP gain entirely.
This is a mecenary game, we play for Isk.
Pryke out.
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Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
70
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:46:00 -
[64] - Quote
Ric Barlom wrote:[quote=SoTa PoP][quote=Ric Barlom] See here's the thing, man, I have nothing against sabotage, subterfuge or trying do whatever we wanna do when it comes PC and corp relationships and stuff like that. Like you said, it's a sandbox. What I do have a problem with is that when more casual or new players show up and they're expecting to enjoy the gaming experience, all of a sudden you have 4 people AFK on their team! And oh yeah, CCP should have fixed it. They haven't though and that's not a good enough reason to go AFK farm like a ************! It's another thing to protest against CCP, but I have a feeling this whole AFK thing ends up hurting the game and community more than it's gonna motivate CCP.
Exactly. Politics, subterfuge, ltreachary, deceit, all those are fine. Its the something-for-nothing "well we told them not to do this so we aren't doing anything wrong" attitude that's causing problems. I've gotten 6 frienda to try this game. Even after warninf them about how it works and the learning curve only one has powered through the firat couple of weeks to get decent and he was frustrated for a while. Afking is ruiining this game for newbros and veterans alike, to say otherwise is fallacy.
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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
226
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:47:00 -
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Pryke Bastion wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
I was in 2 squads of imps last night and both of them were saying they didn't much like the AFK farming being possible - but hey, most the imps in particular have been around longer then I have which is over a year of the same game mode - No new content for this long and a weekly SP cap people need to hit to keep relevant come any major updates forced a lot of AFK farming.
It worries me how many players buy into the mentality of "keeping up with the Jones's." You don't need to grind max SP every week to stay relevant. I mean, it's great having options in your skill tree, but once you've reached a certain threshold, it's all going to be extra icing at that point anyways. Ruining the game for others under the false pretext of "Standing in the MCC in protest" is a fat load of BS. You want free SP. I personally hope CCP fixes the issue by completely removing Active SP gain entirely. This is a mecenary game, we play for Isk. Pryke out.
Its also an FPS.
Where players need to feel they're progressing with every match they play, ISK is sweet, but SP is sweeter.
Fix Active SP;
I got +1000 WP 4,000 SP not AFK
Went AFK, 0 WP 4,000 SP.
Fix it CCP! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2088
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:56:00 -
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I'd like just one link, quote, or anything where any vet on these forums has said that AFK farming is helpful or good. All these anti-afk posts make it seem like people want things to stay the way they are. Don't expect anyone to take your posts seriously when you only view half the topic or are too biased of your own opinion. |
Nstomper
Disqualified
254
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:20:00 -
[67] - Quote
im not one to shoot peoples threads down (unless its a qq thread) and i dont hate on corps but hey cant stop all the hate and qq |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
153
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:53:00 -
[68] - Quote
I think the way to fix it is what we said before 1sp per second in game and 5 sp per wp yeah you will get less sp but it will fix a lot of the problems or no sp behind the redline |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
762
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:56:00 -
[69] - Quote
Though I love it for the shortcut, your tears sweetens the deal. Especially when you try to take out my fully tanked proto AR. 3x complex damage mods + 3x complex plates + armor rep. I saw two people explode on me at the same time doing lol damage. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
868
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Posted - 2013.05.02 19:05:00 -
[70] - Quote
If you stand on one leg AFK in the MCC you make more SP.
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Pryke Bastion
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.05.02 19:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I think the way to fix it is what we said before 1sp per second in game and 5 sp per wp yeah you will get less sp but it will fix a lot of the problems or no sp behind the redline
Nah, giving more SP to the players who do well in matches doesn't help newcomers get equalized to the game, just lets the proto-AR-DMG mod-sharpshooter Horde put more SP between themselves and everyone else not at that development level yet.
Consider your average ambush...
"I PWNs U ALL" squad: 1200 WP *5= 6000 sp + 900 time sp for 15 min match totals 6900 SP poor poor "Newberries": 75 WP (if they're lucky against red swarm) *5 = 375 sp + 900 time sp totals 1275 SP
So you still think that holding the game hostage by afking until CCP gives in (yeah, right) is going to help attract new players in the long run? I don't think I'd join a game if the vets were pretty well guaranteed to gain skill distance on me by 6 to 7 times every match lol.
Pryke out. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
129
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:08:00 -
[72] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:
And **** morals. Get real son! Morals aint gonna pay the ******* bills.
I hope to one day be a fly on the wall as you eat those words.
It is that belief that causes us to have the problems in the world that we do. The internet just makes it worse because people think "It isn't real, I can do/say as I please". I know, I know, I've heard the arguments on the EO forums that "Online Game Morals =/= Real Life Morals", though it is still an indication of the thought processes that go on behind those eyes of yours. Catharsis can be a good thing, though that isn't an excuse to be an asshat to any/everyone and exploit every loophole you find. You can try to logic that it isn't so all you want, however, in the end, you will not change my mind. People should strive to have integrity whether in a game or in real life. Yes, I understand that backstabbing is a part of Eve and that there is a lot of profit to be had in doing so, though the same can be said for integrity (ex. Chribba, he has more to lose by following the crowd and being an treacherous self-serving asshat than any of us).
What Would Chribba Do?
/high horse
Every word of it is true too. |
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