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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:27:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:AFKing can be a benefit to the team
Lets take a player and call him bob
Bob is a sniper, a bad one tho, he returns to the same place where he died several times, at the end of the match bob goes 0-7, bob would have helped the team if he AFK'd by not using up clones
Back on the forums bob is hated because he is a bad sniper but he has done nothing all game and got 0 WP but he still gets SP, now bob basically AFK'd a different way by dying once in a while on the mountain somewhere but he did nothing for the team
Bob ways are no different to an AFKer, he didnt help the team and took up clones thats even worse than an AFKer at least he stays alive
AFKing will be around until its fixed, during the epic grind yday i didnt AFK once, i did the 'bob the sniper' method and basically died while i tried to snipe, i played but i didnt give it my all is that AFKing? One of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on here.
Im right jim
That bad sniper is costing you clones and giving free WP to the enemy for that OB
The guy AFKing is doing nothing so you are a man down but thats as far as it goes
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:31:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Give mercs the freedom to play how they want, regardless if that kills the game. Call it AFK 514 and watch it sink. Nobody will give that game second look. You would have it all to yourselves, till you all decided to go "help" some other game..right into its grave. Doomsday prophet  ! If this game dies it will die because of lack of content;- not AFK players So some new player tries this game and has multiple options for content (you are a spoiled brat) and joins a match. He sees you and five of your buddies chilling in the MCC. Your team is destroyed. New player never comes back, therefore never has a chance to be upset about "lack of content". Your logic is as flawed as your morals.
Well boo hoo hoo! We have been askingto segregate noobs form vets for a long time. You think we enjoy fighting noobs. All vets I know love a good fight. I want my red dot to shoot me in the face and teabag my sorry ass and vice versa. Not some ******* noob that stands in the middle of the field waiting to get his head blown off by me.
And **** morals. Get real son! Morals aint gonna pay the ******* bills. |
Pryke Bastion
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:38:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:
I was in 2 squads of imps last night and both of them were saying they didn't much like the AFK farming being possible - but hey, most the imps in particular have been around longer then I have which is over a year of the same game mode - No new content for this long and a weekly SP cap people need to hit to keep relevant come any major updates forced a lot of AFK farming.
It worries me how many players buy into the mentality of "keeping up with the Jones's."
You don't need to grind max SP every week to stay relevant. I mean, it's great having options in your skill tree, but once you've reached a certain threshold, it's all going to be extra icing at that point anyways.
Ruining the game for others under the false pretext of "Standing in the MCC in protest" is a fat load of BS. You want free SP. I personally hope CCP fixes the issue by completely removing Active SP gain entirely.
This is a mecenary game, we play for Isk.
Pryke out.
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Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:46:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:[quote=SoTa PoP][quote=Ric Barlom]
See here's the thing, man, I have nothing against sabotage, subterfuge or trying do whatever we wanna do when it comes PC and corp relationships and stuff like that. Like you said, it's a sandbox. What I do have a problem with is that when more casual or new players show up and they're expecting to enjoy the gaming experience, all of a sudden you have 4 people AFK on their team! And oh yeah, CCP should have fixed it. They haven't though and that's not a good enough reason to go AFK farm like a ************! It's another thing to protest against CCP, but I have a feeling this whole AFK thing ends up hurting the game and community more than it's gonna motivate CCP.
Exactly. Politics, subterfuge, ltreachary, deceit, all those are fine. Its the something-for-nothing "well we told them not to do this so we aren't doing anything wrong" attitude that's causing problems. I've gotten 6 frienda to try this game. Even after warninf them about how it works and the learning curve only one has powered through the firat couple of weeks to get decent and he was frustrated for a while. Afking is ruiining this game for newbros and veterans alike, to say otherwise is fallacy.
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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:47:00 -
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Pryke Bastion wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
I was in 2 squads of imps last night and both of them were saying they didn't much like the AFK farming being possible - but hey, most the imps in particular have been around longer then I have which is over a year of the same game mode - No new content for this long and a weekly SP cap people need to hit to keep relevant come any major updates forced a lot of AFK farming.
It worries me how many players buy into the mentality of "keeping up with the Jones's." You don't need to grind max SP every week to stay relevant. I mean, it's great having options in your skill tree, but once you've reached a certain threshold, it's all going to be extra icing at that point anyways. Ruining the game for others under the false pretext of "Standing in the MCC in protest" is a fat load of BS. You want free SP. I personally hope CCP fixes the issue by completely removing Active SP gain entirely. This is a mecenary game, we play for Isk. Pryke out.
Its also an FPS.
Where players need to feel they're progressing with every match they play, ISK is sweet, but SP is sweeter.
Fix Active SP;
I got +1000 WP 4,000 SP not AFK
Went AFK, 0 WP 4,000 SP.
Fix it CCP! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2088
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:56:00 -
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I'd like just one link, quote, or anything where any vet on these forums has said that AFK farming is helpful or good. All these anti-afk posts make it seem like people want things to stay the way they are. Don't expect anyone to take your posts seriously when you only view half the topic or are too biased of your own opinion. |
Nstomper
Disqualified
254
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:20:00 -
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im not one to shoot peoples threads down (unless its a qq thread) and i dont hate on corps but hey cant stop all the hate and qq |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
153
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:53:00 -
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I think the way to fix it is what we said before 1sp per second in game and 5 sp per wp yeah you will get less sp but it will fix a lot of the problems or no sp behind the redline |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:56:00 -
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Though I love it for the shortcut, your tears sweetens the deal.
Especially when you try to take out my fully tanked proto AR.
3x complex damage mods + 3x complex plates + armor rep.
I saw two people explode on me at the same time doing lol damage. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
868
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Posted - 2013.05.02 19:05:00 -
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If you stand on one leg AFK in the MCC you make more SP.
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Pryke Bastion
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.02 19:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I think the way to fix it is what we said before 1sp per second in game and 5 sp per wp yeah you will get less sp but it will fix a lot of the problems or no sp behind the redline
Nah, giving more SP to the players who do well in matches doesn't help newcomers get equalized to the game, just lets the proto-AR-DMG mod-sharpshooter Horde put more SP between themselves and everyone else not at that development level yet.
Consider your average ambush...
"I PWNs U ALL" squad: 1200 WP *5= 6000 sp + 900 time sp for 15 min match totals 6900 SP
poor poor "Newberries": 75 WP (if they're lucky against red swarm) *5 = 375 sp + 900 time sp totals 1275 SP
So you still think that holding the game hostage by afking until CCP gives in (yeah, right) is going to help attract new players in the long run? I don't think I'd join a game if the vets were pretty well guaranteed to gain skill distance on me by 6 to 7 times every match lol.
Pryke out. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
129
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:08:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:
And **** morals. Get real son! Morals aint gonna pay the ******* bills.
I hope to one day be a fly on the wall as you eat those words.
It is that belief that causes us to have the problems in the world that we do. The internet just makes it worse because people think "It isn't real, I can do/say as I please". I know, I know, I've heard the arguments on the EO forums that "Online Game Morals =/= Real Life Morals", though it is still an indication of the thought processes that go on behind those eyes of yours. Catharsis can be a good thing, though that isn't an excuse to be an asshat to any/everyone and exploit every loophole you find. You can try to logic that it isn't so all you want, however, in the end, you will not change my mind. People should strive to have integrity whether in a game or in real life. Yes, I understand that backstabbing is a part of Eve and that there is a lot of profit to be had in doing so, though the same can be said for integrity (ex. Chribba, he has more to lose by following the crowd and being an treacherous self-serving asshat than any of us).
What Would Chribba Do?
/high horse
Every word of it is true too. |
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