DUST Search - Questions about the new Skill Tree total ammount of SP

crazy space 1 wrote:

Um 32 years of skills, is allready roo much. And we are only counting all the races being flushed out. They said this is coming very soon as the art is done, it would be out today if they had it ready .

In eve I have had 6 years of passive traiing and I'm maxxed out in all frigates, all weapons, all cruisers, all battle ships, all Bcs, all logistic ships, all tech 2 frigates and cruisers, all shield and armor tanking skills, all rig skills, somecapital ship skills. And more !

And all with just 60 million sp.

60 million sp is dust goes farther becuase skills are cheaper, yet, with 60 million sp in dust ill only just have support skills, one gun , and like 1 scout lav, 5 dropsuits.

See here is the issue, eve has 19.8 years of skills. It has over 300 skills to level up. Dust takes 32 years and only has about 80skills. Do you really not see the issue here ????

You are assuming I'm QQing, I'm not , this is so broken its a game killer. Eve started at 4 years total to train, with more skills than dust has today. Its like people defending a 70$ mt item.


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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2664	Posted - 2013.05.02 17:47:00 - [1] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: There is 240 million sp in the new expansion. That will double soon as we only have half the suits and tanks ect. That's 480 millionsp. It takes a year to get 15 million sp , without boosters. No its no 80 years , but its far to high for a game that will grow the way dust will. Eve online only has a total of 400 million sp after ten years of expansions. Dust allready takes longer and its only year one. A titan takes 177 days not 133 you have to train the skills before hand to max it. The new dropsuits have capital ship level sp requirements, but hey that's ok who cares right !!!!*** Would anyone play eve if frigates took 6 months each to fly ? No they wouldn't becuase that would be crazy. So your initial claim was that it would take over 100 years, then you "corrected" it down to 80, to train all the skills in Uprising's release with constant use of both active and passive boosters. Now you're counting yet-to-be-implemented skills on top of that, and making painfully flawed assumptions about those skills, and even using your blatantly-false estimates, and the new admission to be using the a totally un-boosted SP count for the year, we see the following: 480 million SP total to earn, 15 million per year. 480 / 15 = 32. Nice clean number, that. 32 years for all current content AND most of the announced future content that will be coming in the next 2 years. A more reasonable answer would be 20-ish years for currently-announced content, both for Uprising and the near future. Now to poke holes in your assumptions: 1. You assume that because we have half the vehicles and suits, we have half the skills. The base skill for vehicle operation is already there, which will apply to the unlocking of different vehicle types. The piloting skill is already there, which unlocks Dropships, and may unlock Assault Dropships and Fighters in Uprising and future builds. We have skills for Missile and Hybrid Turrets, which will apply to at least some future weapon options on vehicles. We have Dropsuit Command, which unlocks the various Frame Sizes, andwe have the relevant skills for each of those Frame Sizes. We have Weaponry, which is a core skill for unlocking the different weapon-related skills. We have a HUGE amount of skills which already act as prerequisites for certain functions in the game, and almost all new gear will be operating through those skills, so no, we're NOT going to be doubling the SP count by doubling the number of items. 2. You're assuming that nobody actually paid attention when you posted 100 years then said 80 even with boosters, and are now suggesting a still-exaggerated figure that's less than half the lower of your previous made-up numbers. This is a really important mistake to avoid in future. If you've publicly stated something really stupid, own up to the fact that you got it really, REALLY wrong. People WILL remember, and if you deny it, they WILL be able to find and produce quotes, links and datestamps to prove it. Sometimes they might even have screenshots just in case you go back and edit your earlier comments to try and look innocent. 3. You assume that just having the hull requirements is enough in EVE, when that's closer to being true in DUST than it is in EVE, and isn't true here either.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2664	Posted - 2013.05.02 18:43:00 - [2] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Um 32 years of skills, is allready roo much. And we are only counting all the races being flushed out. They said this is coming very soon as the art is done, it would be out today if they had it ready . In eve I have had 6 years of passive traiing and I'm maxxed out in all frigates, all weapons, all cruisers, all battle ships, all Bcs, all logistic ships, all tech 2 frigates and cruisers, all shield and armor tanking skills, all rig skills, somecapital ship skills. And more ! And all with just 60 million sp. 60 million sp is dust goes farther becuase skills are cheaper, yet, with 60 million sp in dust ill only just have support skills, one gun , and like 1 scout lav, 5 dropsuits. See here is the issue, eve has 19.8 years of skills. It has over 300 skills to level up. Dust takes 32 years and only has about 80skills. Do you really not see the issue here ???? You are assuming I'm QQing, I'm not , this is so broken its a game killer. Eve started at 4 years total to train, with more skills than dust has today. Its like people defending a 70$ mt item. 32 years if you're working on provably-false assumptions AND assuming the person spends no money on Boosters of any kind. Probably closer to 20 years using numbers that have any rational logic behind them, and that's including content that WON'T be here for Uprising. Did you even read my post? EDIT: Also, you spelt $70 wrong. And I fixed a typo in my own post.