It seems CCP is content to sell us SP, when we want them to sell us content.

Yeah, the stats and slot layout say otherwise

Or are you saying basic suits have the exact stats as our current suits?

Who argued this?

You're piquing my competitive nature Iron. Now I want to fight a DEV team of Proto Assault suits vs. our (PFBHz) Slayers in basic suits to see what happens.

IWS please stop posting in my threads because you make no ****** sense and derail an important issue. I don't need cpm trying to fanboi this issue

What if I put a tank in my wagon and it breaks my wagon?

Can I still keep the tank?

O.o

(To be on topic, just from what I've seen, I too fear that Logi's may be way too good right now >_<)

Man, trolling this thread would be like shooting fish in a barrel... with an HMG

Where did you get the info on slot layouts for the medium suits?

More generally, having the x10 lvl 5 requirement for the new suit subtypes is not going to change the number of prototype suits out there. We know that there are prototype light suits that have the same requirements as the current scout suits.

Alot of stuff I rather not read but has to.

Not to get off topic, but the fitting costs is always another way to limit a suits versatility. Then again an argument can be made that

the Amarr logi with 3 high 3 low 3 equipment and sidearm is kinda a successor to the Caldari vk.0 but with better shield regen delay. But thats debatable.


Keep in mind that for any medium frame skill you spec into you are giving yourself access to both basic assualt and logi suits in that race. Too bad they have horrid fitting costs.


To tie this back on topic. The best solution to justify the 10x multiplier of racial variant specialty suits is they need to have higher EHP. Maybe they have more EHP than the basic variants but they have what we currently have now. The difference between the tier needs to be significant to justifiy it.

Its just bad design. The current proto levels should be the basic, the racial protos should really be a treated like the next tier and get a nice EHP boost along with the bonues thats justifies the SP commitment.

Do you know, or can you share with us, what problem this solved? I don't remember anybody complaining about assault suits having 2 equipment slots.

I couldnt agree more, too bad CPM consists of all one type of player. EVE centric MMO, the metagame is everything have no idea how to develop a shooter, everything CCP is doing is spot on because they created EVE and EVE is amazing sycophants. But im not interested in getting in a flame war with you, this issue has more important consequence.

But it seems the MMO hardcore are convinced this model will work for an FPS.


There is a difference between MMO grind to force speciality where role diversity is essential to forming effective parties to handle situations that occur in MMO and for zerg diversity.

IN FPS you kill or you support its really that simple

Killers are assaults and to an minor extent Heavy and Tanks

Everything else is a subdivision of support.

However only Assault and Logi are the main divisions that is really needed for competitive play. Everything else is purely situtaional. Purely situational means limited utility. Limited utility mean less people will want to use it if they want to play.

Because there are only a limited number of slots to play a side.

This game is a long way off from player sizes that will allow for SSR(situational support roles to be useful running full time in match).

How many ppl did you see playing Dropship continuously the entire match during the tourney final? How about tank I saw one and it was of limited use, if the oher team had a clue it would have been lol pwned.

So yea keep creating artificial time sinks by expanding the grind and tell yourself it will work as intended.