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Dr Bones McCoy
Contract Hunters
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:01:00 -
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New Eden is in need of dedicated field medics and it seems like most Logistics players are a hybrid between combat and occasionally whipping out a Nanite Injector or repair tool. The designers of Dust have balanced the game in a way where strictly healing and reviving is not only viable, it's profitable. Here are a few reasons I often end up in the top three with zero kills:
+25 Triage Points for repairing teammates' armor
+60 War Points for reviving a fallen team member
+Reviving fallen team members negates the reduction of your team's clone count
+Healing team members when they kill enemies yield 45 guardian points
+If you have a Nanohive in your third slot, team resupply grants 10 points a piece
+Not many people are dedicated Logistics mercenaries. Even one can turn the tide of the battle in the favor of your team!
Anything I'm missing? Other thoughts?
-Bones |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1225
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:05:00 -
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WP oooldown means you can keep working but get no reward.
That makes the bet logi one who concentrates on helping but can kill in his spare time.
Otherwise you can top the leader board if you work hard. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
726
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:12:00 -
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A good logi is also a good slayer.
Nobody wants to be revived in the middle of a fight. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
212
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:A good logi is also a good slayer.
Nobody wants to be revived in the middle of a fight.
QFT |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
163
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:A good logi is also a good slayer.
Nobody wants to be revived in the middle of a fight.
PRO Rez FTW! |
Nonya Bizznizz
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:24:00 -
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Dust University seems to disagree. Every squad almost always has a logibro that is more or less dedicated to healing nd keeping the squad intact. |
Wombat in combat
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
8
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:30:00 -
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You are absolutely right. I'm that type of a defensive logi and I quite frequently top the scoreboard too. |
copy left
The Wanderer Copy Left
104
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:49:00 -
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I am an offensive logi. I get to the top of the leaderboard, and I kill the entire team if I have a good enough team. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
562
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Posted - 2013.05.01 02:25:00 -
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I try to be as supportive as I can, but if no one needs armor and there's already hives on the ground...
Well, I'd be dead weight if I didn't use my gun, eh? |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.01 02:38:00 -
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There is a great logi thread I will find later, if no one does it for me. Anyone BM it?
Anyone he states a logis duties:
Rally
Revive
Repair
Resupply
Reinforce
I suggest all logibros remember the 5 R's |
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
127
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Posted - 2013.05.01 02:57:00 -
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Eh...I REALLY wouldn't recommend not killing anything. Aside from gimping your WP, killing enemies before they can start slaying your dudes and eating away their armor is just as important as fixing what's already broken.
Besides, one decently damaged heavy is enough to completely max the WP (so annoying, but better than nothing at all) you get for healing for some period of time. Lot of time you could be using to kill. I'm not saying ignore repairing when your maxed at the moment (your a healer, first and foremost), but when the enemy comes a chargin' and your men start dropping like flies, you either help kill (and try not to die since chances are you will be the only Logi capable of bring the group around you back) them with whoever is alive or force everyone to take a trip back to the spawn.
I see it all the time. There's a heavy at, maybe 40% armor and instead of helping kill the enemy that is tearing into him, so that he can use the resulting calm to revive who has already fallen in the scuffle and heal them up and resupply 'em with ammo, a logi will keep repairing him. Guardian points don't mean jack when the person your reping ends up dying. Even if the heavy goes down, at least you already have your weapon out and have a good chance at taking out the wounded who was attacking, then you can revive everyone and repair.
If that heavy dies, it'll be you and the guys you revive (including the heavy, barring "O" or critical death) VS. the next charge.
If you die, it's that one heavily damaged heavy VS. the 3 enemies surely on their way.
Not sure what i'm trying to say. I guess i'll just say what I do. I kill any enemies that are currently a possible threat and when the calm hits, I look around and do my logi business. Only exceptions are when I know there are a bunch of friendlies around who can take care of it. Or I know I can revive the people around me without exposing them to immediate fire.
P14GU3 wrote:There is a great logi thread I will find later, if no one does it for me. Anyone BM it?
Anyone he states a logis duties:
Rally
Revive
Repair
Resupply
Reinforce
I suggest all logibros remember the 5 R's
Right here |
Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
219
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:01:00 -
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Well you got the occasional blueberry who wont use a needle to pick you up when your running solo. |
Galdor Seregon
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
27
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:03:00 -
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One thing that I've found lots of other logi's lack that is one of my favorite thing to do is rally, I spend match's finding little places to drop an uplink that will let my team regroup and attack anew, its a big strategy element that is more of a chess move rather than kill or rep something and I love it  it's also one of the reasons I'm looking forward to the commander suits, playing general of the battlefield would be badass |
ugg reset
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
269
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:06:00 -
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If you can't kill that makes you a liability to those you're helping.
Also for any logis out there remember this when choosing your equipment : revive, repair and rearm. IN THAT ORDER |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1230
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:07:00 -
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Galdor Seregon wrote:One thing that I've found lots of other logi's lack that is one of my favorite thing to do is rally, I spend match's finding little places to drop an uplink that will let my team regroup and attack anew, its a big strategy element that is more of a chess move rather than kill or rep something and I love it it's also one of the reasons I'm looking forward to the commander suits, playing general of the battlefield would be badass
Setting up a good nest to rally and attack from is a big part of logistics. I have turned around many a battle by using a DU to rally my team into a cohesive fighting force where I can support them. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
575
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:09:00 -
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I don't know about you but if a logi doesn't know how to kill and defend himself, what good is he to your team besides becoming a baby the team has to escort?
I can hold my own in a fight and I'll pick your ass up after I took out the trash. The way it should be. |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
163
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Posted - 2013.05.01 07:20:00 -
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And now that you're ugly yellow we will see even less logibros on the field lol. |
Llan Heindell
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
19
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Posted - 2013.05.01 07:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:A good logi is also a good slayer.
Nobody wants to be revived in the middle of a fight.
I agree with that.
THe good logi has the ability to clear an area by himself if necessary, before being able to get a fallen comrade back to life.
Llan Heindell. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1176
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Posted - 2013.05.01 07:30:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:And now that you're ugly yellow we will see even less logibros on the field lol.
Lies, I shall become a Sunbro... I mean Logi-Bro so that can I farm... I mean save and help my teammates. Yup, nothing but good intentions here  |
Quill Killian
Better Hide R Die
139
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Posted - 2013.05.01 07:34:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Galdor Seregon wrote:One thing that I've found lots of other logi's lack that is one of my favorite thing to do is rally, I spend match's finding little places to drop an uplink that will let my team regroup and attack anew, its a big strategy element that is more of a chess move rather than kill or rep something and I love it it's also one of the reasons I'm looking forward to the commander suits, playing general of the battlefield would be badass Setting up a good nest to rally and attack from is a big part of logistics. I have turned around many a battle by using a DU to rally my team into a cohesive fighting force where I can support them.
QFT, Skihids.
Most BHD assault troops carry their own nanohives, while many of our logis equip advanced and prototype revive, repair and uplink tools. Together, that makes for some really lethal nests. |
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Llan Heindell
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.05.01 07:56:00 -
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Quill Killian wrote:Skihids wrote:Galdor Seregon wrote:One thing that I've found lots of other logi's lack that is one of my favorite thing to do is rally, I spend match's finding little places to drop an uplink that will let my team regroup and attack anew, its a big strategy element that is more of a chess move rather than kill or rep something and I love it it's also one of the reasons I'm looking forward to the commander suits, playing general of the battlefield would be badass Setting up a good nest to rally and attack from is a big part of logistics. I have turned around many a battle by using a DU to rally my team into a cohesive fighting force where I can support them. QFT, Skihids. Most BHD assault troops carry their own nanohives, while many of our logis equip advanced and prototype revive, repair and uplink tools. Together, that makes for some really lethal nests.
I think having very good infantry gear is the core objective of a Logi, isn't it. Thats what makes our suits so freaking expensive.
It's an interesting combination. I usually run with heavies when squading up in my corp. So I need hives for them.
I love to get my proto repair tool and repair 2 heavies at the same time while they retaliate everything. Hahah. Its justsad that the cap hits as fast as enemies die. lol So at some point I have to take my AR and begin with the retaliation myself. xD
Llan Heindell. |
Dr Bones McCoy
Contract Hunters
3
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Posted - 2013.05.05 12:53:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Not sure what i'm trying to say. I guess i'll just say what I do. I kill any enemies that are currently a possible threat and when the calm hits, I look around and do my logi business. Only exceptions are when I know there are a bunch of friendlies around who can take care of it. Or I know I can revive the people around me without exposing them to immediate fire.
Great advice, thank you! |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2702
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Posted - 2013.05.05 13:22:00 -
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You don't necessarily need to be a good killer as a Logi - although it helps.
If you AREN'T good at killing, you need to be looked after by someone who is, and you need to be good at assessing a situation and knowing when you can afford to move in for a revive, and when you're just going to see the guy's head popped again, with your own to follow a half-second later. If it's not safe to revive, wait until it is, or let the guy bleed out. Reviving someone under fire may give you WP, but it doesn't actually help anyone. |
TODDSTER024
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
51
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Posted - 2013.05.05 13:31:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:If you can't kill that makes you a liability to those you're helping.
Also for any logis out there remember this when choosing your equipment : revive, repair and rearm. IN THAT ORDER
I named my corp "Revive Repair Rearm" before that reset. |
Gregor stormwalker
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
7
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Posted - 2013.05.05 13:46:00 -
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i have not seen this talked about much but in patch notes
" Added the ability to use the nanite injector even when you do not have it selected"
this means as a logi you no longer need to put your weapon away to revive. this should help as now i can keep fighting move towards you and when iv ether killed or they are ducked behind cover i can revive, all with out dropping my weapon. |
Jebus McKing
DUST University
Ivy League
51
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Posted - 2013.05.05 13:54:00 -
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Nonya Bizznizz wrote:Dust University seems to disagree. Every squad almost always has a logibro that is more or less dedicated to healing nd keeping the squad intact.
We do not. But most people seem to choose the Logi class because they know their gungame isn't that great yet, so they concentrate on supporting. |
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