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Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:16:00 -
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On may 6 all the market purchasable stuff in our inventories is being replaced by ISK/AUR equivalent to their value (or at least I am lead to believe). I have done a little tallying and have found that, taking into account only the unused market purchasable item that I have salvaged so far, if the ISK refund occurred right now, I would receive exactly 173,839,990.00 ISK for nothing but my unused salvage.
That is quite a chunk of change! |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1121
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:18:00 -
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You shouldn't count your chickens before they hatch, bacon is better anyway! |
Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
115
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:20:00 -
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Yup, everyone who has been playing for quite a while is going to get super rich. And remember, they are going to give you back the current market value of aurum items, so that means if you bought the militia BPOs while they were cheap, you're going to actually make a profit!
Gimme dat money. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
498
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:20:00 -
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Yeah... No way CCP is giving us isk for EVERYTHING in our inventory... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2719
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:21:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Yeah... No way CCP is giving us isk for EVERYTHING in our inventory...
I'm so upset that they didn't scrap the Eryx or the Prometheus....I have 110 and counting of those pieces of trash.... |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
104
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:22:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys,
Just a quick note. We're releasing an updated version of this blog later today. It contains some slightly different information in it.
Additionally, we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that. The reference to returning ISK or AUR value for items refers to anything that we determine is going to be drastically changed by our skill change system and might require removal. We do not have public details on that yet, but we will be posting a longer dev blog in the future which more-fully lays out these changes.
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
995
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:22:00 -
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Oh my god! My Quafes no!!!!!!!!!
JK market purchase stuff only |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1122
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:23:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Yup, everyone who has been playing for quite a while is going to get super rich. And remember, they are going to give you back the current market value of aurum items, so that means if you bought the militia BPOs while they were cheap, you're going to actually make a profit!
Gimme dat money. No reason to refund militia bpos, they require 0 SP commitment to a playstyle. The same is true for salvage.
Aqil Aegivan wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys,
Just a quick note. We're releasing an updated version of this blog later today. It contains some slightly different information in it.
Additionally, we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that. The reference to returning ISK or AUR value for items refers to anything that we determine is going to be drastically changed by our skill change system and might require removal. We do not have public details on that yet, but we will be posting a longer dev blog in the future which more-fully lays out these changes. From assets, not the game, at least that's what it originally sounded like. |
Chris F2112
187.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'm so upset that they didn't scrap the Eryx or the Prometheus....I have 110 and counting of those pieces of 450K pieces of trash.....
If player trading opened today, what would be the going price for a Eryx or Prometheus? My bet is 10000 ISK. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Yeah... No way CCP is giving us isk for EVERYTHING in our inventory... I'm so upset that they didn't scrap the Eryx or the Prometheus....I have 110 and counting of those pieces of trash....
I think you should still be getting that back. You worked for it I don't see why they wouldn't refund it. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1122
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:27:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Yeah... No way CCP is giving us isk for EVERYTHING in our inventory... I'm so upset that they didn't scrap the Eryx or the Prometheus....I have 110 and counting of those pieces of trash.... I think you should still be getting that back. You worked I don't see why they wouldn't refund it. You didn't buy it. They're talking about commitments to playstyles that you might now regret, salvage has nothing to do with that since it's not based on your playstyle. This is how rumors start. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:28:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Yeah... No way CCP is giving us isk for EVERYTHING in our inventory... I'm so upset that they didn't scrap the Eryx or the Prometheus....I have 110 and counting of those pieces of trash.... I think you should still be getting that back. You worked I don't see why they wouldn't refund it. You didn't buy it. They're talking about commitments to playstyles that you might now regret, salvage has nothing to do with that since it's not based on your playstyle. This is how rumors start.
Sourse? |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2148
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:29:00 -
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You've been salvaging a lot, Higgs.
I estimate that with the 25+ Prometheus dropships I have (which I have absolutely no skill in) I will get at least 16 million ISK for those hulls alone. This is not accounting for other salvage that I can't use because I'm only a dedicated knifer. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:29:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Yeah... No way CCP is giving us isk for EVERYTHING in our inventory... I'm so upset that they didn't scrap the Eryx or the Prometheus....I have 110 and counting of those pieces of trash.... I think you should still be getting that back. You worked I don't see why they wouldn't refund it. You didn't buy it. They're talking about commitments to playstyles that you might now regret, salvage has nothing to do with that since it's not based on your playstyle. This is how rumors start.
So what you'saying is they are going to steal all my salvage that I worked for? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1122
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:30:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote: So what you'saying is they are going to steal all my salvage that I worked for?
I'm saying that they probably won't touch it. Go back and actually read the thing yourself if you want a source, or wait for the Devblog and get a clear answer. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:You've been salvaging a lot, Higgs.
I estimate that with the 25+ Prometheus dropships I have (which I have absolutely no skill in) I will get at least 16 million ISK for those hulls alone. This is not accounting for other salvage that I can't use because I'm only a dedicated knifer.
Higgs is acctualy my alt character. My main (Ignoble Son) got banned from the forums. |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
71
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:33:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:On may 6 all the market purchasable stuff in our inventories is being replaced by ISK/AUR equivalent to their value (or at least I am lead to believe). I have done a little tallying and have found that, taking into account only the unused market purchasable item that I have salvaged so far, if the ISK refund occurred right now, I would receive exactly 173,839,990.00 ISK for nothing but my unused salvage. That is quite a chunk of change!
no no no no, CCP hasn`t worded their statements in a way that isn`t missleading (not blaming them... like the 3x wp not 3x sp...) but only the stuff that won`t be in Uprising, the Ehryx`s and the Promithiues (aka logi DSes) will be in Uprising so they will stay in your inventory (they are the best way to gain cash but since they are here to stay you won`t gain them for ISK from CCP), other things are staying, you will only gain SIK from stuff they are removing. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:33:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote: So what you'saying is they are going to steal all my salvage that I worked for?
I'm saying that they probably won't touch it. Go back and actually read the thing yourself if you want a source, or wait for the Devblog and get a clear answer.
I did read the thing, and I have already stated what I thought it meant. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1122
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:38:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote: So what you'saying is they are going to steal all my salvage that I worked for?
I'm saying that they probably won't touch it. Go back and actually read the thing yourself if you want a source, or wait for the Devblog and get a clear answer. I did read the thing, and I have already stated what I thought it meant.
Quote:As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you[, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well. In short, you will get your skill points (SP) back and the ISK and AUR (in-game currencies) value of any item that is removed from your inventory.
I bolded the important parts for you.
Salvage does require a commitment to use, but not to acquire. You also can't choose to receive it and therefore it's not a choice you can regret. Nothing points to it getting refunded or even touched. This will probably only involve items you actually purchased. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1122
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:41:00 -
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Shouper of BHD wrote: no no no no, CCP hasn`t worded their statements in a way that isn`t missleading (not blaming them... like the 3x wp not 3x sp...) but only the stuff that won`t be in Uprising, the Ehryx`s and the Promithiues (aka logi DSes) will be in Uprising so they will stay in your inventory (they are the best way to gain cash but since they are here to stay you won`t gain them for ISK from CCP), other things are staying, you will only gain SIK from stuff they are removing.
From assets, not the game. Though the dropships probably won't be refunded anyway. |
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Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:43:00 -
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The Logi drop ships will be removed if they have been altered in some way. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:47:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote: So what you'saying is they are going to steal all my salvage that I worked for?
I'm saying that they probably won't touch it. Go back and actually read the thing yourself if you want a source, or wait for the Devblog and get a clear answer. I did read the thing, and I have already stated what I thought it meant. Quote:As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well. In short, you will get your skill points (SP) back and the ISK and AUR (in-game currencies) value of any item that is removed from your inventory. I bolded the important parts for you. Salvage does require a commitment to use, but not to acquire. You also can't choose to receive it and therefore it's not a choice you can regret. Nothing points to it getting refunded or even touched. This will probably only involve items you actually purchased.
And how, pray tell, will they know what I am committed to and what I am not committed to.
". We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well."
Did this not just say item respec? If there is an item respec then logic dictates that all market purchasable items will be removed from your inventory.
"In short, you will get your skill points (SP) back and the ISK and AUR (in-game currencies) value of any item that is removed from your inventory."
Thus, you will be refunded for all of them. |
Tiluvo
Digital Mercs
56
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:50:00 -
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How will they determine if you bought it or found it? Which of my 15 A-series logi suits did I buy and which did I salvage? I agree that not everything will be sold, but if an item is, all copies should be returned. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:51:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Salvage does require a commitment to use, but not to acquire. You also can't choose to receive it and therefore it's not a choice you can regret. Nothing points to it getting refunded or even touched. This will probably only involve items you actually purchased.
So then you are saying that they are going to steal my salvage? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1122
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:55:00 -
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Sure... |
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