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BOZ MR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:02:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
562
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:06:00 -
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This thing better not become a threadnaught, or I will lose faith in the forum community. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:11:00 -
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gg sir |
Smooth Head
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:24:00 -
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Enjoy your brief moment before being slammed.
Some other guy here the other day started a thread that their community site would be down for a whie and got infracted by a moderator for "spamming".
Yay community spirit. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
1290
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:26:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:This thing better not become a threadnaught, or I will lose faith in the forum community.
It all depends on whether any other good threads come up and how badly this gets derailed. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:26:00 -
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Smooth Head wrote:Enjoy your brief moment before being slammed.
Some other guy here the other day started a thread that their community site would be down for a whie and got infracted by a moderator for "spamming".
Yay community spirit.
Now it is not spam. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
753
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Posted - 2013.04.29 11:56:00 -
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Hahahahahahahahaha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wffv5NCrrvc
Compared to RL, Swarms are WAY under-powered. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:10:00 -
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Compared to real tanks, in-game tanks are way UNDER POWERED.
http://youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=LH06ln67_jo |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
753
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:21:00 -
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So, I guess we're even.
Enjoy my missiles.  |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
1295
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:32:00 -
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Yeah they should.
NEXT! |
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Angus McBeanie
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
17
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:35:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:.Proto swarms should not deal 3000+ damage to armor.
Fine nerf it then together with the speed of your effing armor tank. No way to get near you with AV nades, when you drive off. |
Psychotic Shooter
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
45
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:59:00 -
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AV nades are overpowered they do more than swarms and are spamable its crazy |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
711
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:02:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:So, I guess we're even. Enjoy my missiles.
Wow, how could you burn him like that without even offering cold water! Wait nevermind, he can just use his tears. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
311
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:06:00 -
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We dont have a proto tank yet either
So its proto AV vs adv vehicles |
Sev Alcatraz
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
249
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:09:00 -
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I have yet to see the day that a javalin missile makes a 90o turn |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
386
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:13:00 -
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SO basically you waisted the 20,000th post. You could have talked about bacon and it would have more relvance to the game.
It has already been said (multiple times) that all stats, not just weapons, are being changed for the new expansion... well balanced anyway |
Psychotic Shooter
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
45
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:14:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:I have yet to see the day that a javalin missile makes a 90o turn
Best comment EVER
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
758
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:29:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:AV nades are overpowered they do more than swarms and are spamable its crazy
And require you to stand right next to the tank where its infantry screen will kill you.
Of course, any tanker without an infantry screen is UP and asking to die. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
758
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:35:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:I have yet to see the day that a javalin missile makes a 90o turn
Actually, it makes almost a 90 degree turn in the video I linked.
Notice that it attacks the tank almost vertically.
I think what you meant to say is that the Javelin has a much larger turn radius than Swarms.
Absolutely true.
Honestly, I'd be fine with AV missiles that had less turning ability IF (and only if):
- They attacked from above and were one-hit-kills like the Javelin.
Heck, I'd make it a one-shot magazine too for that.
The reason that swarms have to have crazy stupid turning ability is that CCP made them fly close to the ground. If I could launch them upward for more than 20 meters to avoid obstacles, that would help. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
387
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:45:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:I have yet to see the day that a javalin missile makes a 90o turn Actually, it makes almost a 90 degree turn in the video I linked. Notice that it attacks the tank almost vertically. I think what you meant to say is that the Javelin has a much larger turn radius than Swarms. Absolutely true. Honestly, I'd be fine with AV missiles that had less turning ability IF (and only if): - They attacked from above and were one-hit-kills like the Javelin.Heck, I'd make it a one-shot magazine too for that. The reason that swarms have to have crazy stupid turning ability is that CCP made them fly close to the ground. If I could launch them upward for more than 20 meters to avoid obstacles, that would help.
One shot insta-kill super AT missiles... no thanks lol think about what your saying
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Bhor Derri
Legion of Eden
C0VEN
106
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:04:00 -
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So infantry can grab a proto-suit officer weapon and solo own the entire team but a colossal tank needs:infantry support, lots of SP , lots of ISK , good team and proper map.
Do you see the error in your logic?
I think not...
Tanks or more precisely armor tanks need an improvement ; they are extremely slow(infantry in assault suits outrun them), armor is weak as hell , they look shiny (the entire enemy zerg rushes them[points at gusk hevv] )
there are a sh*tton of explosive and kinetic weapons.
"And yeah QQ we should nerf anything with treads of wheels becuz we dont wants vehicles dust is FPS...."
F*** you seriously. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
694
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:19:00 -
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I calculated the max possible damage a swarm launcher could have, its 2700~.
To have that kind of damage you need a proto swarm launcher, the damage skills maxed out + 3x complex damage mods.
It also means the user will be **** against infantry.
I think that's fair.
Also, swarms have travel time, get your tank near cover and laugh at the swarms. |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
92
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:32:00 -
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One Infantry soldier with a officer weapon can solo a team? M1 or core locus grenade can explode a soldier easily.
If you nerf swarms, then armour reppers are next.
Proto swarms have 6 missiles that each do 300 dmg, plus the 30 percent bonus they do 2340 dmg to armour. If you add complex dmg modifiers then you could get around 3k in dmg per volley.
The proto swarm cost 40k per unit and requires 90 CPU to equip it. In order to fit it, you need to make sacrifices or use a proto assault suit.
So now you have a half equipped suit or a suit that cost at least 90,000isk and only has side arms to fight through the hoards of infantrymen running at you. Not to mention, the tank and his 2 gunners trying to exploded you with proto blaster both large and small. |
Angus McBeanie
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
18
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:00:00 -
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and another thing is, you just want to farm the ambush matches with tanks without any resistance. I bet you end up with in matches half the times, where you completely wipe out reddots. Then there are the matches where you end up meeting proper a proper squad and they take out your tank and you end up making a post like this.
run on foot mate if you see proper squads, run on foot |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:14:00 -
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Angus McBeanie wrote:and another thing is, you just want to farm the ambush matches with tanks without any resistance. I bet you end up with in matches half the times, where you completely wipe out reddots. Then there are the matches where you end up meeting proper a proper squad and they take out your tank and you end up making a post like this.
run on foot mate if you see proper squads, run on foot
this, also stop sending me fan mail when you lose your shittty tank
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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
212
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:14:00 -
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in the video armor looked buff or av nerfed just watch the uprising video. hope tht makes u feel better. |
REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:21:00 -
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How about the fact that swarms do all this damage but can be spammed peek a boo style have negligible lock on time and require zero actual ability to use? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1110
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:25:00 -
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REMNANCY 1 wrote:How about the fact that swarms do all this damage but can be spammed peek a boo style have negligible lock on time and require zero actual ability to use?
How about the fact it instantly alerts any and all infantry to your location?  |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1110
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:25:00 -
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P.S. This thread sucks, QQ more. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:28:00 -
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REMNANCY 1 wrote:How about the fact that swarms do all this damage but can be spammed peek a boo style have negligible lock on time and require zero actual ability to use?
And tanks can kill multiple infantry units in less than a second, so what's your point? |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
408
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:35:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:.Proto swarms should not deal 3000+ damage to armor.
I know, they're just big meanies. Mean mean swarms. Give me my lunch mon . . . I mean my tank . . . give me my tank back. All my corp mates laughed at me. |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
430
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:56:00 -
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After reading this I have decided to lock the thread as is not a proper feedback or a good way to start a discussion in the forum.
Please read the forum rules as number 22.
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22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve DUST 514 provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding DUST 514 and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
Thanks.
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