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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:29:00 -
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For those complaining about that the DUST set is all BPO and not BPC these are 2 completely different games
Just imagine if EVE got BPO thrashers, so you get blown up but ther it is back in your hanger ready to go PVP again essentailly it wouldnt be EVE, EVE has always had BPC and also giving you just 1 ship but if you blow it up its gone, its a unique item and with BPO in EVE you have to make the ship also
In DUST we die a hell of alot in general, a BPO is more useful to us and they have already given us quite a few of em as event prizes, i would expect more packs for BPO items but most likely these are basic items and wont really turn DUST upside down not as much as it would in EVE |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:48:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:For those complaining about that the DUST set is all BPO and not BPC these are 2 completely different games
Just imagine if EVE got BPO thrashers, so you get blown up but ther it is back in your hanger ready to go PVP again essentailly it wouldnt be EVE, EVE has always had BPC and also giving you just 1 ship but if you blow it up its gone, its a unique item and with BPO in EVE you have to make the ship also
In DUST we die a hell of alot in general, a BPO is more useful to us and they have already given us quite a few of em as event prizes, i would expect more packs for BPO items but most likely these are basic items and wont really turn DUST upside down not as much as it would in EVE
Err there is BPO's in EVE, they are extremely rare (In most cases).. I have a Venture one :) |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:41:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:For those complaining about that the DUST set is all BPO and not BPC these are 2 completely different games
Just imagine if EVE got BPO thrashers, so you get blown up but ther it is back in your hanger ready to go PVP again essentailly it wouldnt be EVE, EVE has always had BPC and also giving you just 1 ship but if you blow it up its gone, its a unique item and with BPO in EVE you have to make the ship also
In DUST we die a hell of alot in general, a BPO is more useful to us and they have already given us quite a few of em as event prizes, i would expect more packs for BPO items but most likely these are basic items and wont really turn DUST upside down not as much as it would in EVE Err there is BPO's in EVE, they are extremely rare (In most cases).. I have a Venture one :) BPOs in Eve are far from rare ... there are billions of them for sale on the market ... I have thousands of them in assets in my home station and many of them cost a pittance.
What are rare in Eve are T2 BPOs that sell from 6 bil isk up beyond around 20 bil for one that's actually profitable and on into the 100+ bil for a very good one.
The difference is BPOs in Eve still have a manufacture cost in materials, time and station/pos expenses, so they are not an unlimited free supply of an item like they (currently) are in DUST. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.04.29 20:49:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote: I didnt realise WoW and CoD were made by the same company, if they are then why not promote one from the other using a boxset of your long term subscription game with some items included to entice your players to try your other game.
it does not matter if they are made by the same company it still holds true. would you pay 200$ for the next CoD game jst because it has some WoW stuff in it if you never want to play WoW and can't even sell it.
Needless Sacermendor wrote: I really don't see why you people have a problem with this ... if you want the items buy the boxset ... if you can't afford it get a job ...if you don't want the Eve items tuff, they're part of the set. Do you go to a video shop and say I want the boxset of some TV show but I don't want season 2
box set for movies are also sold by seasons so what is your point here? that you are dumb then yes you proved that one right.
Needless Sacermendor wrote: ... would you go to the supermarket to buy a microwave meal n want to cut the pack in half cos you don't want the rice !
comparing something that's 70 cents to something that 200 dollars is pointless
Needless Sacermendor wrote: The Eve side debate doesn't come into it ... they're complaint is they can't buy it for PLEX ... the DUST items are just a minor part of the set, many of them want a digital version or a version without the boardgame etc. but guess what ... that's the package being sold. If I want to buy a Ford Focus but I don't want the doors do you thini they'd remove them and reduce the price !?
Too many self entitled people these days !
if the dust stuff wasn't in there it would be cheaper and would not be as bad as it is now. btw if I didn't want the doors on it I would have the type of doors I want changed understandable for some more cash because its for safety. the dust items should not even be on there. its like the car dealer trying to sell you GPS system for 8,000 dollars and saying its a deal of a life time when you won't need it as the based package when it is not the base package. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.05.01 13:31:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote: I didnt realise WoW and CoD were made by the same company, if they are then why not promote one from the other using a boxset of your long term subscription game with some items included to entice your players to try your other game.
it does not matter if they are made by the same company it still holds true. would you pay 200$ for the next CoD game just because it has some WoW stuff in it if you never want to play WoW and can't even sell it. Needless Sacermendor wrote: I really don't see why you people have a problem with this ... if you want the items buy the boxset ... if you can't afford it get a job ...if you don't want the Eve items tuff, they're part of the set. Do you go to a video shop and say I want the boxset of some TV show but I don't want season 2
box set for tv are also sold by seasons so what is your point here? that you are dumb then yes you proved that one right. Needless Sacermendor wrote: ... would you go to the supermarket to buy a microwave meal n want to cut the pack in half cos you don't want the rice !
comparing something that's 70 cents to something that 200 dollars is pointless Needless Sacermendor wrote: The Eve side debate doesn't come into it ... they're complaint is they can't buy it for PLEX ... the DUST items are just a minor part of the set, many of them want a digital version or a version without the boardgame etc. but guess what ... that's the package being sold. If I want to buy a Ford Focus but I don't want the doors do you thini they'd remove them and reduce the price !?
Too many self entitled people these days !
if the dust stuff wasn't in there it would be cheaper and would not be as bad as it is now. btw if I didn't want the doors on it I would have the typed of doors I want changed understandable for some more cash because its for safety. the dust items should not even be on there. its like the car dealer trying to sell you a 1foot pool for 8,000 dollar and saying its a deal of a life time as an addon to buying a car that you must buy in order to buy any car in the lot. What !? You're missing the point ... maybe it's my bad analogies ... try this one ... When you buy a graphics card for your computer that comes with a free game ... do you cry to the manufacturers that you didn't want the game and you can't sell it and demand they release a cheaper version without the free game, or more like what youre asking for the graphics card manufacturer to sell you the free game because you don't want to buy the graphics card.
The free game in that scenario is a physical item on a disk and has manufacture costs and transportation costs and taxation throughout its journey to your purchase. The digital items, both Eve and DUST, in this boxset are costless items to CCP that they have bundled in with a costly boxset of books, CDs and physical ship models.
To answer some of your questions ...
No I wouldn't pay -ú5 for a gold cased box set of CoD but I couod understand them promoting their new free to play expansion on CoD buy including some digital items for it in a CoD boxset that CoD players would be interested in buying ... we are talking about an Eve boxset here with items for Eves expansion called DUST.
Has it been confirmed that you can't sell the codes or buy the set and sell the Eve stuff on ebay ?
I'm dumb !? ... I'm not the one crying about not being able to buy what I want, when I want and how I want ... like I said originally Self Entitled !
That wasnt a comparison, it was an analogy (google it if you failed english)
And what that was all about with the 8, 000 dollar pool and a car lot I have no idea, do car dealerships sell pools on your planet. ? |
Kazeno Rannaa
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 14:34:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:I'm very bothered by the fact that CCP put so many permanent DUST BPO's in that set. And not just for "collector items". The LR, AR, and pistol are all standard Dust gear that should also be available in the market and not JUST available in some rare, expensive collection set. The EVE ship counter parts are all limited run BPCs, the dust items should be too.
Sadly everything's pretty set and there's no turning back now.
Anyways, I'd love to see a Dust collector's set. The one problem is that if we do get our own Dust set, the EVE players with no interest in Dust will want their own EVE only set without any of the Dust stuff. And if we got our own set it's hard to deny the EVE players theirs. Then the whole spirit of the 10 year set is ruined and the whole world falls to pieces.
The deal is, the point for the price and the shear volume of stuff is what justifies the price. Especially since CCP is now emphasizing the connection between Dust and EVE and the fact that CCP would love to have every duster in EVE and vice versa.
Personally, Since it is not shipping till October, this will be my birthday gift this year to myself and I have plenty of time to scratch together the cash so that I am able to have my Ammarian fitted Minmatar vehicle of vengeance!!!!!
EDIT:
Plus the EVE stuff (i.e., the Thrasher, the BC, and the other stuff) soon could be sold to the pilots in corp. Not to mention the mystery code that will give you something every time there is an EVE or dust giveaway for the next 10 years (that was pulled in context from the CCP presents keynote speech from the 27th). |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:12:00 -
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I too would love to see a collectors edition for DUST ... but if any one of you can offer the name of anything ever that has released a special edition or box set or collectors edition of something that is still in BETA stages please let us know as it's just a ridiculous idea.
I don't doubt there will 'eventually' be a DUST boxset or collectors edition, likely at a similar price with one of those merc busts they showed briefly at Fanfest and a board game and a book written about the DUST side of the lore and a load of other stuff you people won't want and all these threads will start again of people complaining they don't want this n that n that CCP should provide a different version of it tailor made to their individual requirements and at a price that fits with their jobseekers allowance ! |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Carbon 7
4
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Posted - 2013.05.11 16:43:00 -
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i really dont agree with a dust version because face it.. dust is not even released yet and the expansion is to celebrate 10 years of eve not dust, dust has nothing to celebrate yet unless you think getting passed open beta is something to celebrate.
ccp wants more people to play eve and also wants more eve players to play dust.
buy the collectors edition as it is and try eve for yourself. if not sell all the remainder content on ebay or ingame for isk then when they bring in isk transfers to dust you can send it all to yourself.
there is no need for seperate box sets. if they did that they might aswell just seed the bpo's on the market for aurum removing the point of collectors edition. collectors editions are not meant to be available to everyone |
Silus Wyvern
AD EXTREMUM
5
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Posted - 2013.05.18 19:35:00 -
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There is a simple solution if you want the dust items buy it. Then take and list all the eve stuff on EBAY and make that $ back. Im sure some eve guys who arent interested in dust would jump on it. |
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