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BL4CK FRIAR
Defiant Kelkoons
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:37:00 -
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No seriously,why? Look at this. The Amarr look amazing all the way through their line, Caldari and Gallente look good in their Scouts and Assault suits, but then look at the Minmatar. The heavy looks like the troll from the LOTR as its grasping at its mouth after the elf dude fills it with arrows and the scout suit looks like some sort of rejected concept art from a Troma Vision parody of Mad Max.
I know that most of the guys at CCP play Amarr and Minmatar, a distant thrid being Gallente, but when will you start taking Minmatar seriously? Just think about this, in FW it was the Minmatar who have always been the most uniformed and deadly, and even before that UK and CVA were a thing of early legend, but we never get love. The new Stabber looks nice, as does the Tempest, but how many passes has every other race gotten?
Just once can we please get a look at us thats more then "Egh who gives a ****, the only thing people use from the Minmatard's is the Rifter and Stabbers, so why even bother?"
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AntanTheBeast
Foxhound Corporation
13
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:41:00 -
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The Minmatar heavy looks like a beast American football player. |
First Prophet
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
49
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:48:00 -
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I actually kind of like the Minmatar heavy. Kind of looks like they just went "Kitten it, just stack a bunch of armor plates on him." The tankiest looking heavy imo. The minmatar scout looks the worst though. And I've always been pretty meh about the logi. The minmatar suits just feel like they're the only ones that don't fully look their race. All the other suits are pretty spot on with their race. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
221
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:50:00 -
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the minmatar heavy looks like a flak suit. reduced damage from explosions perhaps? |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
334
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:52:00 -
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I dont think they are that bad, I like the large frame. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1560
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:53:00 -
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AntanTheBeast wrote:The Minmatar heavy looks like a beast American football player.
Minmatar heavy is the speed heavy right? |
Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
96
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:55:00 -
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BL4CK FRIAR wrote:The Amarr look amazing all the way through their line
This is funny because I side with the Amarr and I think the Minmatar heavy looks the best, and the rest of their suits really cool. Not to mention their LAV, tank, and dropship, and freaking missile pistol. We hate each other, yet we secretly envy each others gear.
Also the Minmatar were on the banners at the main stage during Fan Fest, so yeah. Y'all got your love. |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
91
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:56:00 -
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It reflects the history of the people accurately if you ask me.
As far as looks go, I'd cast vote for the gallente scout and the amarri assault+heavy.
Everybody has there own personal taste, my opinion is that the minmatar look like some badass garbage soldiers. Rising from the trash heaps to take revenge on the amarr empire. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
683
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:56:00 -
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The Minmatar tend to make unfinished ships and dropsuits and putting it all together using duct tape. These dropsuits fit their lore perfectly. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1306
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:58:00 -
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I actually love how the scout looks.
However, the minmatar assault rifle just looks like an SMG with an extended barrel. |
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
33
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:00:00 -
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I actually really like the look of the large Minmatar, besides, they should look ramshackled
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BL4CK FRIAR
Defiant Kelkoons
43
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:The Minmatar tend to make unfinished ships and dropsuits and putting it all together using duct tape. These dropsuits fit their lore perfectly.
Actually, if you wanted to be accurate, the Minmatar dropsuits should look like some sort of Franken-suit with elements from all the other races or look more like this. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
334
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:01:00 -
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The flaylock pistol looks beast, glad to be Minmatar. I dont think they are neglected at all. |
BL4CK FRIAR
Defiant Kelkoons
43
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:02:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:The flaylock pistol looks beast, glad to be Minmatar. I dont think they are neglected at all.
No issues with the weapons, just the suits. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
1280
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:12:00 -
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Tbh the minmatar heavy is the only one that makes me go "oh kitten, don't want that to come round a corner at me". It looks angry. |
Sergamon Draco
Darkstar Mercs
18
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:14:00 -
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BL4CK FRIAR wrote:No seriously,why? Look at this. The Amarr look amazing all the way through their line, Caldari and Gallente look good in their Scouts and Assault suits, but then look at the Minmatar. The heavy looks like the troll from the LOTR as its grasping at its mouth after the elf dude fills it with arrows and the scout suit looks like some sort of rejected concept art from a Troma Vision parody of Mad Max. I know that most of the guys at CCP play Amarr and Minmatar, a distant thrid being Gallente, but when will you start taking Minmatar seriously? Just think about this, in FW it was the Minmatar who have always been the most uniformed and deadly, and even before that UK and CVA were a thing of early legend, but we never get love. The new Stabber looks nice, as does the Tempest, but how many passes has every other race gotten? Just once can we please get a look at us thats more then "Egh who gives a ****, the only thing people use from the Minmatard's is the Rifter and Stabbers, so why even bother?" Ok i understand this text like this,you think outfit=serious.WTF when dust transformed in to fashion show? |
BL4CK FRIAR
Defiant Kelkoons
43
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:22:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:BL4CK FRIAR wrote:No seriously,why? Look at this. The Amarr look amazing all the way through their line, Caldari and Gallente look good in their Scouts and Assault suits, but then look at the Minmatar. The heavy looks like the troll from the LOTR as its grasping at its mouth after the elf dude fills it with arrows and the scout suit looks like some sort of rejected concept art from a Troma Vision parody of Mad Max. I know that most of the guys at CCP play Amarr and Minmatar, a distant thrid being Gallente, but when will you start taking Minmatar seriously? Just think about this, in FW it was the Minmatar who have always been the most uniformed and deadly, and even before that UK and CVA were a thing of early legend, but we never get love. The new Stabber looks nice, as does the Tempest, but how many passes has every other race gotten? Just once can we please get a look at us thats more then "Egh who gives a ****, the only thing people use from the Minmatard's is the Rifter and Stabbers, so why even bother?" Ok i understand this text like this,you think outfit=serious.WTF when dust transformed in to fashion show?
When we all started testing this game, what did we look at first? "What looks bad-ass" be it how bad ass a mini-gun and fatboy looks or how awesome that scout suit looks. Even in Eve when im helping noobs fresh in the game, people always gravitate towards what looks cool to them. Personally I think a Domi looks like a floating turd, one that serves a purpose, but a turd none the less, but unlike Eve, we dont have the option of being cross qualified for using suit one and then switching to suit two within our race that fills the same "weigh class", we get one suit per weigh class, and the Minmatar look like crap, and you want me to play 10 years in a suit that looks like the art was tasked out to some reject art student. |
Sergamon Draco
Darkstar Mercs
18
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:27:00 -
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BL4CK FRIAR wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:BL4CK FRIAR wrote:No seriously,why? Look at this. The Amarr look amazing all the way through their line, Caldari and Gallente look good in their Scouts and Assault suits, but then look at the Minmatar. The heavy looks like the troll from the LOTR as its grasping at its mouth after the elf dude fills it with arrows and the scout suit looks like some sort of rejected concept art from a Troma Vision parody of Mad Max. I know that most of the guys at CCP play Amarr and Minmatar, a distant thrid being Gallente, but when will you start taking Minmatar seriously? Just think about this, in FW it was the Minmatar who have always been the most uniformed and deadly, and even before that UK and CVA were a thing of early legend, but we never get love. The new Stabber looks nice, as does the Tempest, but how many passes has every other race gotten? Just once can we please get a look at us thats more then "Egh who gives a ****, the only thing people use from the Minmatard's is the Rifter and Stabbers, so why even bother?" Ok i understand this text like this,you think outfit=serious.WTF when dust transformed in to fashion show? When we all started testing this game, what did we look at first? "What looks bad-ass" be it how bad ass a mini-gun and fatboy looks or how awesome that scout suit looks. Even in Eve when im helping noobs fresh in the game, people always gravitate towards what looks cool to them. Personally I think a Domi looks like a floating turd, one that serves a purpose, but a turd none the less, but unlike Eve, we dont have the option of being cross qualified for using suit one and then switching to suit two within our race that fills the same "weigh class", we get one suit per weigh class, and the Minmatar look like crap, and you want me to play 10 years in a suit that looks like the art was tasked out to some reject art student. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder |
Jessica Montoya
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:30:00 -
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Have you ever played eve? Mimnatar are the best race for almost any situation for the longest time. Ask any vet player of eve who knows what he's talking about.
What ship should I solo in? Mimnatar. What ship best fits in this small gang? Mimnatar.
Ect ect ect.
With the new upgrades to ship roles and such that is changing a bit. But mimnatar being most used ships in eve for so long only means one thing. CCP if anything loves you guys most. |
Etero Narciss
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
126
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:30:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I actually love how the scout looks.
However, the minmatar assault rifle just looks like an SMG with an extended barrel. That's because that is exactly what it is, if you look at some of the concept art from before. |
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Kairos Nitak
Planetary Response Organization
5
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:34:00 -
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I think the consensus is that pretty much everyone disagrees with you; the minmatar heavy looks like an insane football player rage kitten. I'm pretty sure you're just jelly.. I know I am, but I still love the Amarr assault suit and look forward to cutting down all you heavies medium range with my Gek or close with my SMG. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
119
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:34:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:I actually kind of like the Minmatar heavy. Kind of looks like they just went "Kitten it, just stack a bunch of armor plates on him." The tankiest looking heavy imo. The minmatar scout looks the worst though. And I've always been pretty meh about the logi. The minmatar suits just feel like they're the only ones that don't fully look their race. All the other suits are pretty spot on with their race.
This post is truth. |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
63
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:37:00 -
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BL4CK FRIAR wrote:No seriously,why? Look at this. The Amarr look amazing all the way through their line, Caldari and Gallente look good in their Scouts and Assault suits, but then look at the Minmatar. The heavy looks like the troll from the LOTR as its grasping at its mouth after the elf dude fills it with arrows and the scout suit looks like some sort of rejected concept art from a Troma Vision parody of Mad Max. I know that most of the guys at CCP play Amarr and Minmatar, a distant thrid being Gallente, but when will you start taking Minmatar seriously? Just think about this, in FW it was the Minmatar who have always been the most uniformed and deadly, and even before that UK and CVA were a thing of early legend, but we never get love. The new Stabber looks nice, as does the Tempest, but how many passes has every other race gotten? Just once can we please get a look at us thats more then "Egh who gives a ****, the only thing people use from the Minmatard's is the Rifter and Stabbers, so why even bother?" What are you talking about the Minmatar scout is the most bad as looking scout between the 4, if look up close ( http://i.imgur.com/SRm6hEK.jpg ) it actually looks like scorpions face (if the paint scheme is right). I seen this pre-fanfest and fell in love with suit, just hoping it was indeed my scout suit (a lot people thought it was Amarr)
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
119
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:37:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:AntanTheBeast wrote:The Minmatar heavy looks like a beast American football player. Minmatar heavy is the speed heavy right?
I really hope the Minmatar Heavy runs like Usain Bolt by comparison to the other heavies. |
Zahle Undt
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:38:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Tbh the minmatar heavy is the only one that makes me go "oh kitten, don't want that to come round a corner at me". It looks angry.
LOL that was about my same thought, I said "I wouldn't want to run into that guy in a dark alley" I'm likely going to be going with shiney Amarr as its the race I picked ignorantly months ago. But the Minmatar heavy has bad ass written all over it in my opinion. |
Nonya Bizznizz
DUST University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:42:00 -
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BL4CK FRIAR wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:BL4CK FRIAR wrote:No seriously,why? Look at this. The Amarr look amazing all the way through their line, Caldari and Gallente look good in their Scouts and Assault suits, but then look at the Minmatar. The heavy looks like the troll from the LOTR as its grasping at its mouth after the elf dude fills it with arrows and the scout suit looks like some sort of rejected concept art from a Troma Vision parody of Mad Max. I know that most of the guys at CCP play Amarr and Minmatar, a distant thrid being Gallente, but when will you start taking Minmatar seriously? Just think about this, in FW it was the Minmatar who have always been the most uniformed and deadly, and even before that UK and CVA were a thing of early legend, but we never get love. The new Stabber looks nice, as does the Tempest, but how many passes has every other race gotten? Just once can we please get a look at us thats more then "Egh who gives a ****, the only thing people use from the Minmatard's is the Rifter and Stabbers, so why even bother?" Ok i understand this text like this,you think outfit=serious.WTF when dust transformed in to fashion show? When we all started testing this game, what did we look at first? "What looks bad-ass" be it how bad ass a mini-gun and fatboy looks or how awesome that scout suit looks. Even in Eve when im helping noobs fresh in the game, people always gravitate towards what looks cool to them. Personally I think a Domi looks like a floating turd, one that serves a purpose, but a turd none the less, but unlike Eve, we dont have the option of being cross qualified for using suit one and then switching to suit two within our race that fills the same "weigh class", we get one suit per weigh class, and the Minmatar look like crap, and you want me to play 10 years in a suit that looks like the art was tasked out to some reject art student. Technically the only weight-class that has two suits is the Medium-Frame, the Assault and Logistics Suits. I hope this changes on May 6th.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1306
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:47:00 -
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So, what does everyone think looks the best? I say Light- Minmatar Medium- Amarr Heavy- Gallente |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
59
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:48:00 -
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The Minmatar Heavy looks like the guy that turns a corner barehanded into an Amarr with an HMG grabs the rotary to prevent it from spinning as the Amarr squeezes the trigger, clocks the guy in the face with a suckerpunch then cuts the HMG's straps with a Nova Knife, yanks it away and then guns the Amarr down with said HMG while saying, "This belongs to me." |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
1283
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:56:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:gbghg wrote:Tbh the minmatar heavy is the only one that makes me go "oh kitten, don't want that to come round a corner at me". It looks angry. LOL that was about my same thought, I said "I wouldn't want to run into that guy in a dark alley" I'm likely going to be going with shiney Amarr as its the race I picked ignorantly months ago. But the Minmatar heavy has bad ass written all over it in my opinion. Tell me about it, he looks like he'll beat his chest before he charges you and well do what Jakar said. |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty EoN.
167
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Posted - 2013.04.28 19:12:00 -
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Looking at the Minmatar Scout made me think of Midge Midge from BL2. And the Heavy is the Goliath. XD
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
120
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Posted - 2013.04.28 19:32:00 -
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Jakar Umbra wrote:The Minmatar Heavy looks like the guy that turns a corner barehanded into an Amarr with an HMG grabs the rotary to prevent it from spinning as the Amarr squeezes the trigger, clocks the guy in the face with a suckerpunch then cuts the HMG's straps with a Nova Knife, yanks it away and then guns the Amarr down with said HMG while saying, "This belongs to me."
ROFL, though it would be funnier if he beat the Amarr heavy to death with it. |
J0hlss0n
Planetary Response Organization
3
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Posted - 2013.04.28 19:41:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Jakar Umbra wrote:The Minmatar Heavy looks like the guy that turns a corner barehanded into an Amarr with an HMG grabs the rotary to prevent it from spinning as the Amarr squeezes the trigger, clocks the guy in the face with a suckerpunch then cuts the HMG's straps with a Nova Knife, yanks it away and then guns the Amarr down with said HMG while saying, "This belongs to me." ROFL, though it would be funnier if he beat the Amarr heavy to death with it.
True.
I kinda like the Minmatar line of suits, and will absolutely go Minmatar Heavy when it drops. =) |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
181
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Posted - 2013.04.28 19:42:00 -
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BL4CK FRIAR wrote:No seriously,why? Look at this. The Amarr look amazing all the way through their line, Caldari and Gallente look good in their Scouts and Assault suits, but then look at the Minmatar. The heavy looks like the troll from the LOTR as its grasping at its mouth after the elf dude fills it with arrows and the scout suit looks like some sort of rejected concept art from a Troma Vision parody of Mad Max. I know that most of the guys at CCP play Amarr and Minmatar, a distant thrid being Gallente, but when will you start taking Minmatar seriously? Just think about this, in FW it was the Minmatar who have always been the most uniformed and deadly, and even before that UK and CVA were a thing of early legend, but we never get love. The new Stabber looks nice, as does the Tempest, but how many passes has every other race gotten? Just once can we please get a look at us thats more then "Egh who gives a ****, the only thing people use from the Minmatard's is the Rifter and Stabbers, so why even bother?"
Minmatar heavy was overfed to build muscles and wrestle against other dropsuits. Minmatar logi only needs a paper bag to cover the face. Minmatar scout needs some meat, oh and cover the face too.
Don't get me started on the WWII tanks, oh lord these things are screaming for techn improvements.
For some strange reason the Gallente Assault looks awfully similar to Crysis 3 multiplayer nanosuits... |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2013.04.28 19:55:00 -
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its duct tape and rust, minmatar are the walmart of space!! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2706
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:05:00 -
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I think the Matar heavy is beast.
Gallente for life though. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2219
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:10:00 -
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Haha the minmatar heavy looks like a giant robotic gorilla I still sort of like the look though. They all look good to me in their own respective style. |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
133
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:11:00 -
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I think all the minmatar suits are the most badassed looking it effectivly has the lunatic part down, and that heavy so looks like the answer to LAVs trying to run people over just walk out in front of it get hit the LAV stops dead just before its picked up and flung at the driver and gunner running like hell away, only thing i can see wrong with it is it seems to be a heavy version of a heavy dropsuits or could just be how i see it but it looks considerably larger than the other heavies hit box wise, i hope its just the angle |
VLIGHT5
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
13
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:16:00 -
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What does the Minmatar Assault look like? |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1306
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:19:00 -
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J0hlss0n wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Jakar Umbra wrote:The Minmatar Heavy looks like the guy that turns a corner barehanded into an Amarr with an HMG grabs the rotary to prevent it from spinning as the Amarr squeezes the trigger, clocks the guy in the face with a suckerpunch then cuts the HMG's straps with a Nova Knife, yanks it away and then guns the Amarr down with said HMG while saying, "This belongs to me." ROFL, though it would be funnier if he beat the Amarr heavy to death with it. True. I kinda like the Minmatar line of suits, and will absolutely go Minmatar Heavy when it drops. =) Just imagine how well minmatar speed will do with an HMG |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
122
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:20:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Haha the minmatar heavy looks like a giant robotic gorilla I still sort of like the look though. They all look good to me in their own respective style.
TBH, I was just out at the grocery store and I had that same thought, pissed off metal silverback. I also thought that it would be hilarious for them to be a "sheet metal press" effectively pummeling opponents flat with (for all intents and purposes) their bare hands. |
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Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
452
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:34:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:What does the Minmatar Assault look like?
All races will only have 3 models for the forseeable future. Small, Medium, and Large frames.
So the assault, and logi suits all look the same, just with different color schemes to tell them apart. (for now)
I'd assume some day in the future, after they get all their modules, weapons, and most vehicles in, they might eventually release different assault/logi looks. but, thats a ways down the road.
For now, I'm just happy they're filling out the ranks soon. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1306
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:47:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:What does the Minmatar Assault look like? Apparently, assaults and logis will look the same. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
1014
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Posted - 2013.04.28 21:14:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I actually love how the scout looks.
However, the minmatar assault rifle just looks like an SMG with an extended barrel.
Um yeah, didn't you notice the same thing about the new ammar weapons? One day you won't buy guns, you'll make your own out of parts. This is coming. Even the mass driver has the SMG model in it. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1068
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Posted - 2013.04.28 21:35:00 -
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I personally think Minmatar and Amar get the best looking suits all around. I dislike the Caldari Heavy and pretty much all the Gallente suits though *looks at race* |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
123
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Posted - 2013.04.28 21:51:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:I personally think Minmatar and Amar get the best looking suits all around. I dislike the Caldari Heavy and pretty much all the Gallente suits though *looks at race*
TBH, the Caldari Heavy does remind me of Sloth |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2637
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:21:00 -
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I'm a fan of Caldari design (it's why I chose Caldari in the first place), and even I don't like the Caldari Heavy.
Minmatar Heavy looks pretty awesome to me. I think both the Minmatar and Gallente Light Frames look ridiculous though, and wish we had one of the other two. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
363
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:36:00 -
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Coming from SVER, this suits me very well. |
SickJ
French unchained corporation Squale Operation Empire
59
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:09:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:What does the Minmatar Assault look like?
Same as the Logi, but with a smaller backpack.
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