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Otoky
DIOS EX.
5
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Posted - 2013.04.28 10:22:00 -
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I know that "WAR" and moral are not close friends but I think they don't have to be in this way. I have a moral code when I playing DUST and there is some certain things what I'm NOT doing against beginners.
- I DON'T kill them on respawn spot.
- I DO hack or destroy clone reanimation units when my whole team (in proto suit) standing there and slauter noobies when they respawn.
- Oh, and specialy I dont kill enemys with militia AV launcher when in my team a high SP player (8mill or above) sitting in a proto tank on a small ambush map with 15k hp+shield and slauter noobies.
Maybe I am an idealist but I hate fight against enemies who are far below my lvl and I don't like players who are farm them just because they can.
Do you have any moral code (i hope so) or I'm alone with this? |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
201
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Posted - 2013.04.28 10:30:00 -
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Play hard, play to win. If you do that your opponent will be forced to do the same, and fun will be had on both sides as a happy byproduct. Unless one opponent is significantly weaker and stands no chance, in which case he should be playing against weaker opponents.
When I come along I will have absolutely no respect for your made up sense of conduct, because it exists only inside your head. That will cost you and your team assets, and **** people off.
"Conduct" is something you show outside of the game. Giving advice, shaking hands after a tournament match, etc.
Inside of a game, conduct is a cavern of lies. It has no place on the battlefield unless the hand of god himself (ie some salty GM) is planning to intervene if you cross some sacred line that doesn't actually exist. |
Otoky
DIOS EX.
5
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Posted - 2013.04.28 10:43:00 -
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I belive in clear fight when we measure our strangest and the better are win, but I dont belive in fights when one side in some way much stronger. Thats not "fight" that is massecure!
Quote:Play hard, play to win. Thats something, thats fight when you have to play hard to win, but you dont kill ants just because you can. Ofc I kill nobbies as well in battleground when we fight but not when they respawn.
Quote:That will cost you and your team assets, and **** people off. My team lose NOTHING when they respawn farm nobbs, In any other cases (when the enemy is equal) I dont mind. So your worry about losing anything because of my conduct is pointless. |
Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
107
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Posted - 2013.04.28 10:44:00 -
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The only three things I followed are these:
1. I do not teabag anyone 2. I won't exploit any glitch/bug/mechanic 3. I will not hack |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1021
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Posted - 2013.04.28 10:44:00 -
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Your moral code exists to give you warm fuzzies about yourself and is a self-indulgent liability. |
Otoky
DIOS EX.
5
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Posted - 2013.04.28 10:52:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Your moral code exists to give you warm fuzzies about yourself and is a self-indulgent liability. Nice try but tipical reaction when you try analize someone because nothing better cross in your mind |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1023
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Posted - 2013.04.28 10:59:00 -
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Otoky wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Your moral code exists to give you warm fuzzies about yourself and is a self-indulgent liability. Nice try but tipical reaction when you try analize someone because nothing better cross in your mind
That's a really weak dismissal. It has no substance at all.
It amounts to "no, you're wrong and also have no better argument" but without any evidence or actual criticism of my argument to back it up. If you can't justify your moral code, that's fine, it's a personal preference and you're allowed it... but don't try and pretend it's anything more than what I label it as.
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:01:00 -
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When my team is redlining the enemy I switch out to scrambler pistols or nova knives to give them a fighting chance. But if it is red I will do everything I can to kill it. |
Groza Tragediya
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
86
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:01:00 -
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I don't shoot players that are out numbered. Killing a players 3 v 1 just proves youre a ***** and lack any individual coordination. Lone wolves are stronger individuals. Pack hunters get picked off when they're alone. |
HOMMANDO
Immobile Infantry
59
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:06:00 -
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For the most part, E-honor is a very stupid thing.
The only I avoid doing is spawn camping my own corpmates if they are on the other team. |
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Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
184
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:08:00 -
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Groza Tragediya wrote:I don't shoot players that are out numbered. Killing a players 3 v 1 just proves youre a ***** and lack any individual coordination. Lone wolves are stronger individuals. Pack hunters get picked off when they're alone.
lolno.
I don't kill people that spawn in front of me (unless it is on a CRU) from an objective, I wait for them to turn and face me at least. You don't learn anything from downing peeps without a chance. I consider myself 'good' and I like the challenge of a 1v1. |
Groza Tragediya
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:09:00 -
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Not so much stupid as knowing that its a game and treating yur oponent with a little respect as opposed to playing like a little ***** and flooding your opponent with cheap tactics because youre mind and hands are too fuqed to work properly. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1023
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:10:00 -
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Groza Tragediya wrote:I don't shoot players that are out numbered. Killing a players 3 v 1 just proves youre a ***** and lack any individual coordination. Lone wolves are stronger individuals. Pack hunters get picked off when they're alone.
Hahahahahaha!
You only have solo gunfights? If your team members are involved in a fight, you take a quick count and make sure the teams aren't even before firing? And if the teams are matched do you go "oh well, let's see if my guys win"?
Aren't you just a glorious little asset to your team? |
Groza Tragediya
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:11:00 -
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See what i did there? |
HOMMANDO
Immobile Infantry
60
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:11:00 -
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Groza Tragediya wrote:Not so much stupid as knowing that its a game and treating yur oponent with a little respect
I respect my opponent enough to assume he is intelligent enough to not spawn at a camped CRU 10 times.
If he isn't, I'll continue to instruct him until he learns.
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Otoky
DIOS EX.
6
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:13:00 -
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Groza Tragediya wrote:Not so much stupid as knowing that its a game and treating yur oponent with a little respect as opposed to playing like a little ***** and flooding your opponent with cheap tactics because youre mind and hands are too fuqed to work properly. Thats all im saying. |
Primarch2
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
71
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:13:00 -
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The Primarch Code
1. To crush your enemies 2. To see them driven before you 3. To hear the lamentations of their women 4. To boldly go where no man has gone before 5. To infinity and beyond
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
13
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:16:00 -
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i play the game to win weather its a good adversary or not. there are to many soldiers on the field to pick out the weak from strong. if you let one live then guess what? he will shoot you in the back. besides CCP. should of thought of a skill based que for the game instead of stacking the teams up in a random que.
next build there will be starter gear only matches for people with new or no skill can go at it till then i guess people will have to continue to lose games cuz of the noobs and or win games with them. if there is an issue with the fact that this is happening recruit them and teach them. not every corp has to be an elite corp. training a newbie will only make him the ideal twin to your playstyle if not better. |
Groza Tragediya
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:17:00 -
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Actually yes, there is no need to shoot someone that is out numbered. Now if my team is losing i try, or if the **** head starts shooting me. It's a game, as such right and wrong still exist, just because you're online doesn't mean good and evil disapear.
That and i dont play games to boost a damaged ego, i wasn't picked on in high-school nor was i a bully. Power trips exist for those who weren't beat as children or who were beat too much. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1024
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:19:00 -
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Groza Tragediya wrote:Actually yes, there is no need to shoot someone that is out numbered. Now if my team is losing i try, or if the **** head starts shooting me. It's a game, as such right and wrong still exist, just because you're online doesn't mean good and evil disapear.
That and i dont play games to boost a damaged ego, i wasn't picked on in high-school nor was i a bully. Power trips exist for those who weren't beat as children or who were beat too much.
Oh, it's a matter of good and evil, is it?
For someone who has no ego issues, you sure are determined to cast yourself as a hero. |
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax. CRONOS.
378
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:20:00 -
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the only fair fight in new eden is one about to be hot dropped |
hooc roht
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:23:00 -
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I would like to see a "white flag" match in which both teams decide not to fight and just mess around on the map...have a jeep race or try to stack up on top of each other or whatever.
I have seen it happen in other games but all of those allowed you to talk to the other side in chat.... |
Gersh Raven beta
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
95
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:24:00 -
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Spawn camping teaches people not to spawn at camped uplinks and CRUs.
Things I won't do are things like tea bagging, sending hate mail or generally being a wanker. |
Deadeye Dic
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
0
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:46:00 -
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Moral Code...hmmmm...if you mean:
Do I kill people when they first spawn? Do I redline shoot? Will I kill dumberries that are ******** when Friendly Fire becomes available? Would I skull**** the dead corpse of the opposing team, if game mechanics allowed? Would I kite you around the map until someone from Negative-Feedback comes in from behind and ***** you in the *** while I laugh and point, until you beg to knifed?
Well, I morally feel that all of these things are imperative to good order and discipline, as well as to competitive gameplay, so I have to say yes, I do a moral code. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
14
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:05:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Groza Tragediya wrote:Actually yes, there is no need to shoot someone that is out numbered. Now if my team is losing i try, or if the **** head starts shooting me. It's a game, as such right and wrong still exist, just because you're online doesn't mean good and evil disapear.
That and i dont play games to boost a damaged ego, i wasn't picked on in high-school nor was i a bully. Power trips exist for those who weren't beat as children or who were beat too much. Oh, it's a matter of good and evil, is it? For someone who has no ego issues, you sure are determined to cast yourself as a hero.
THIS^^ +1 CHA CHING |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
14
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:10:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:I would like to see a "white flag" match in which both teams decide not to fight and just mess around on the map...have a jeep race or try to stack up on top of each other or whatever.
I have seen it happen in other games but all of those allowed you to talk to the other side in chat....
I wont mention the corp we did this with but it was like both our corps had the same exact thought when we did it. on the map with the landing pad on top of B its a 5 letter map we all went forge gun sniping i mean all 16 of us were up top bombing people with grenades and forgeguns it was epic and im sure we were all laughing at the same time about the same thing. if anyone remember this like 3 or 4 days ago it happend it was EPIC FUN |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
45
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:10:00 -
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i have the following
do not cap CRUs - they are better to farm (and teach new players that capping and spawning at CRUs is bad and they shoul dbring uplinks)
do not redline - always give the reds at least one base so that you can farm then instead of entering into a snipe war.
my moral code involves farming people who are doing bad things so that they stop doing bad things...
i like to teach with pain |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
14
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:12:00 -
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Gersh Raven beta wrote:Spawn camping teaches people not to spawn at camped uplinks and CRUs.
Things I won't do are things like tea bagging, sending hate mail or generally being a wanker.
and if your smart it will teach you to be either more of a team player and put to use these rare things that glow blue and bodies appear out of them if your team just so happens to spawn.. DROP UPLINKS \o/ who woulda thought.
it teaches people to spec into things that are needed rather then just gun game tanks ect ect. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
14
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:17:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:i have the following
do not cap CRUs - they are better to farm (and teach new players that capping and spawning at CRUs is bad and they shoul dbring uplinks)
do not redline - always give the reds at least one base so that you can farm then instead of entering into a snipe war.
my moral code involves farming people who are doing bad things so that they stop doing bad things...
i like to teach with pain
using the belt will teach our bad little clones to respect their parents.
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
45
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:24:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:i have the following
do not cap CRUs - they are better to farm (and teach new players that capping and spawning at CRUs is bad and they shoul dbring uplinks)
do not redline - always give the reds at least one base so that you can farm then instead of entering into a snipe war.
my moral code involves farming people who are doing bad things so that they stop doing bad things...
i like to teach with pain using the belt will teach our bad little clones to respect their parents.
ive died many thousands of times to learn what i know, and i will ensure they die just as much to learn the same. |
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Hunter Junko
Bojo's School of the Trades
76
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:29:00 -
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Logistics:
1. i have faith in my squad and their abilities
2. I accept all the risks when attempting to revive a fallen blueberry.
2a. if that blue berry gets himself killed again by the same weapon, im not reviving him again. Every person was once a fool before he/she can be wise
Pilot:
1. always respect the pilots from both sides.
Sniper/ designated marksman :
1. my priority is to my squad only, the rest can burn for all i care.
2. Anything goes, so long as the red dot is gone.
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Gersh Raven beta
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
95
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:46:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Gersh Raven beta wrote:Spawn camping teaches people not to spawn at camped uplinks and CRUs.
Things I won't do are things like tea bagging, sending hate mail or generally being a wanker. and if your smart it will teach you to be either more of a team player and put to use these rare things that glow blue and bodies appear out of them if your team just so happens to spawn.. DROP UPLINKS \o/ who woulda thought. it teaches people to spec into things that are needed rather then just gun game tanks ect ect.
That's why I'm a Logibro with a crappy KDR. |
Eleanore de Blank
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:03:00 -
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Moral code in game(s)? Yes, I have one, but it's nothing like what are you talking about. What I try to do when playing MP games, is never show other players (be it allies or enemies) any kind of disrespect. You know, all those silly things like crouching on dead enemy bodies, writing hate mails and so on. Also, I never use cheats or similar things to improve my game performance beyond what I can achieve with my skills. I do use any alowed non-glitched game mechanics and possibilities to gain upper hand on my enemies in battle though. Multiplayer games are all about the competition, after all. And getting yourself in a better position is a part of it. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1300
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:04:00 -
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The first 2, definitely, but I never really thought about the third one.
Sometimes, however, I need to think faster for my moral code to work. Yesterday I ran into a logi that was using nova knives. My shotgun scout killed it, and THEN I realized that we could have signaled for a melee duel. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
202
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:08:00 -
[35] - Quote
Doing anything other than crushing your enemy when it is within your capability is disrespectful.
If someone quits over it, good. Competition is not for them. Better they learn this faster and go back to watching TV. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
45
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:08:00 -
[36] - Quote
Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The first 2, definitely, but I never really thought about the third one.
Sometimes, however, I need to think faster for my moral code to work. Yesterday I ran into a logi that was using nova knives. My shotgun scout killed it, and THEN I realized that we could have signaled for a melee duel.
thats heartbreaking |
Rigor Mordis
Imperial Populicide Legion
26
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:13:00 -
[37] - Quote
Remember the RPG fanboys that you are asking this question to. Video games, Most Players, and sometimes those who develop them have NO ethical standards. As you can see by the way it is possible to rob a corp if you really wanted. As you can see by the flaws in design that allow chicken squirts to do the things you outlined. As you can see by the several other flaws and issues that fanboys vehemently defend. As you can see in OTHER games where the Devs hack and run hacks on the people that they supposedly make products 'for'.
You will hear a bunch of these RPG gutless wonders and REAL shooter rejects say anything they can to protect their little advantages and exploitations. You should just try to post all the possible solutions to the things you outlined. The gimps will still try to shout you down but at least you can say you gave CCP what they asked for.
Then CCP can decide what they want to do. Maybe they will gain another 1/2 mil EVE players in 10 years. You know, the brainwashed loser children of fanboys. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
45
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:17:00 -
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Rigor Mordis wrote:Remember the RPG fanboys that you are asking this question to. Video games, Most Players, and sometimes those who develop them have NO ethical standards. As you can see by the way it is possible to rob a corp if you really wanted. As you can see by the flaws in design that allow chicken squirts to do the things you outlined. As you can see by the several other flaws and issues that fanboys vehemently defend. As you can see in OTHER games where the Devs hack and run hacks on the people that they supposedly make products 'for'.
You will hear a bunch of these RPG gutless wonders and REAL shooter rejects say anything they can to protect their little advantages and exploitations. You should just try to post all the possible solutions to the things you outlined. The gimps will still try to shout you down but at least you can say you gave CCP what they asked for.
Then CCP can decide what they want to do. Maybe they will gain another 1/2 mil EVE players in 10 years. You know, the brainwashed loser children of fanboys.
wow. ethics dont enter into game design.
thing of all of those things as intentional game mechanics.
your objective as a player is to learn and use game mechanics to win the game either by doign these things, or countering them. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
517
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:30:00 -
[39] - Quote
Other than the obvious kill the enemy and support my team one code I try to live by is to not steal vehicles from blues. I'll use abandoned LAVs but won't touch a vehicle otherwise. I've had a few nicely fit Methana taken from me while I was repairing them which is a total crap move. I can see how losing something hat costs ten times more would cause some serious rage. |
Gelan Corbaine
BetaMax. CRONOS.
132
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:39:00 -
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Gersh Raven beta wrote:Spawn camping teaches people not to spawn at camped uplinks and CRUs.
Things I won't do are things like tea bagging, sending hate mail or generally being a wanker.
^^This .......
I will do anything to win the fight and get more isk/sp . "Fair" is not a factor when money is on the line. You do something that could potentially lose us the match because of your "honor" , and I will be the first person to shoot you in the back .
That being said ...there is little point to being a kitten about it . A true merc is cold blooded yet respectful. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1301
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:44:00 -
[41] - Quote
Gersh Raven beta wrote:Spawn camping teaches people not to spawn at camped uplinks and CRUs.
Things I won't do are things like tea bagging, sending hate mail or generally being a wanker. I think by spawn camping, the OP (and me as well) means the redline spawns. Certain corps have a reputation of sniping people as they spawn in the redzone. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
626
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:52:00 -
[42] - Quote
OP is cute, can I run him over repeatedly? |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
45
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:52:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Gersh Raven beta wrote:Spawn camping teaches people not to spawn at camped uplinks and CRUs.
Things I won't do are things like tea bagging, sending hate mail or generally being a wanker. I think by spawn camping, the OP (and me as well) means the redline spawns. Certain corps have a reputation of sniping people as they spawn in the redzone.
does it still count if i do it with a railgun from the top of a mountain at max range while they are running? |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
237
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:55:00 -
[44] - Quote
Don't know if it's a code or not but I like to make sure the snipers realize I'm sitting next to them before I kill them.
You know.
Watch them squirm.
And watch them fear for their lives.
You haven't lived until you see a sniper frantically try to snipe you from a few centimeters away.
Or jump off a cliff to their death when they're trying to escape you.
Or pull out an SMG as if they have the advantage.
Ahh. It's so funny. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
47
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:59:00 -
[45] - Quote
Roy Ventus wrote:Don't know if it's a code or not but I like to make sure the snipers realize I'm sitting next to them before I kill them.
You know.
Watch them squirm.
And watch them fear for their lives.
You haven't lived until you see a sniper frantically try to snipe you from a few centimeters away.
Or jump off a cliff to their death when they're trying to escape you.
Or pull out an SMG as if they have the advantage.
Ahh. It's so funny.
i like to walk up to them directly in their line of sight as they try to hit me as i duck and weave (but not sprint) and miss 20 times as a slowly close the gap between us. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
237
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:01:00 -
[46] - Quote
You sir have style. I like that. I'll be doing that next time I see one of them. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
118
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:04:00 -
[47] - Quote
I feel the same way about Dust as I do about Eve. Blues should be given respect due, reds deserve none. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
47
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:04:00 -
[48] - Quote
Roy Ventus wrote:You sir have style. I like that. I'll be doing that next time I see one of them.
if you want to add to it feel free to take a few shots at them and take their shields off. it lets them know that you can already hit and kill them, and that your taking your time in doing so without them being able to do anything about it. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
181
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:07:00 -
[49] - Quote
I try not to get my "game on". If I ever tried playing Dust to get my adrenaline going (nope, not happening on a game) then I'm basically a one man army, most proto users would not be able to beat me without reinforcements. I did it 2 times before and it kind of felt unfair to the people I faced in Dust. Same applies to other shooters, I just want to play for fun if there's any. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
48
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:11:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:I try not to get my "game on". If I ever tried playing Dust to get my adrenaline going (nope, not happening on a game) then I'm basically a one man army, most proto users would not be able to beat me without reinforcements. I did it 2 times before and it kind of felt unfair to the people I faced in Dust. Same applies to other shooters, I just want to play for fun if there's any.
so what your saying is that you only do well against people who arnt using squad tactics in a squad based game....
awesome |
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Rigor Mordis
Imperial Populicide Legion
27
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:41:00 -
[51] - Quote
Chances Ghost wrote:Rigor Mordis wrote:Remember the RPG fanboys that you are asking this question to. Video games, Most Players, and sometimes those who develop them have NO ethical standards. As you can see by the way it is possible to rob a corp if you really wanted. As you can see by the flaws in design that allow chicken squirts to do the things you outlined. As you can see by the several other flaws and issues that fanboys vehemently defend. As you can see in OTHER games where the Devs hack and run hacks on the people that they supposedly make products 'for'.
You will hear a bunch of these RPG gutless wonders and REAL shooter rejects say anything they can to protect their little advantages and exploitations. You should just try to post all the possible solutions to the things you outlined. The gimps will still try to shout you down but at least you can say you gave CCP what they asked for.
Then CCP can decide what they want to do. Maybe they will gain another 1/2 mil EVE players in 10 years. You know, the brainwashed loser children of fanboys. wow. ethics dont enter into game design. thing of all of those things as intentional game mechanics. your objective as a player is to learn and use game mechanics to win the game either by doign these things, or countering them. there are two objectives to srim, first is MCC other one is to clone the oponent. farming kills at CRUs is a valid and important tactic to the second objective
Of course it is if the games design allows it. The CRU is not the real issue there as one can look at the overhead map and see that its a camper zone. If a developer gets on here and says that they intended for people to spawn camp the CRUs rather than capture or destroy them, then a lot of my suspicions will be confirmed.
The dead spawning is weak either way you look at it. Its weak because it cost you a fit that MAY have cost AUR which is REAL $. Mostly it is weak because the guy spawning never had a chance to see his attacker, much less the slightest opportunity to defend himself.
Now, all that GARBAGE(tm) is great if one is the pitcher and not the catcher. That's where I go back to why on earth does anybody actually want it like that? Cuz its slacker/glitcher play. People can claim that its ''fun'', but we all know its just exploitation. Even if some people genuinely think that spawn camping etc. -killing defenseless spawns anywhere- is actually fun, that not who you want to listen to if you want the game to get ''better''.
You would listen to those people to make it even more ''nerf'' than it has already been. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:47:00 -
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Rigor Mordis wrote:
Of course it is if the games design allows it. The CRU is not the real issue there as one can look at the overhead map and see that its a camper zone. If a developer gets on here and says that they intended for people to spawn camp the CRUs rather than capture or destroy them, then a lot of my suspicions will be confirmed.
The dead spawning is weak either way you look at it. Its weak because it cost you a fit that MAY have cost AUR which is REAL $. Mostly it is weak because the guy spawning never had a chance to see his attacker, much less the slightest opportunity to defend himself.
Now, all that GARBAGE(tm) is great if one is the pitcher and not the catcher. That's where I go back to why on earth does anybody actually want it like that? Cuz its slacker/glitcher play. People can claim that its ''fun'', but we all know its just exploitation. Even if some people genuinely think that spawn camping etc. -killing defenseless spawns anywhere- is actually fun, that not who you want to listen to if you want the game to get ''better''.
You would listen to those people to make it even more ''nerf'' than it has already been.
when you look on the map you can see both people swarming around a CRU and also blue dots spawning and disapearing.
when i get spawn killed i facepalm myself and learn to check before i spawn.
you cant camp them ALL game, eventually the battle will move elsewhere as people stop spawning there and so you either end up capping it or destroying it to go take care of somethign else.
but if the battle is moving in your favor the right thing to do for your team is to camp it untill that point to lower the clone count.
this will be even more important in planetary conquest where clones = money and attrition is extremely important. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.04.28 15:01:00 -
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I'm a scout. and usually run solo. But aid the group as far as throwing down spawners, close to objective or on flanking ground. (in a conceled place) Usually my target hits the ground before they see me, but sometimes they move in a stupid pack. two up in flames, I kill the 3. And the last is in proto. I'm dead right? I haven't played FPS all my life to die so damn easy. I take cover, while popping out with shotty. Fight takes longer then he expected. His buddies show up.
Now what would you do? I mean I'm sure you'll help him out, but damn at least give me a nod once my body hits the ground from 2vs1. |
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