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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:44:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:You said you "didn't expect to pay AUR for a beta".
Last I checked, you also didn't expect to get your SP/Items back.
Here is the thing. Please, look at it from a business viewpoint, not BS victimized stuff.
You bought AUR. You used AUR. You retain the SP, and ISK gained from using AUR items.
If you were to be reimbursed the AUR, to make it "legally fair" (as in, no buy one, get one free deal), the SP gained from AUR boosters, and your KD and all AUR items would need to be removed from your account, and the AUR would be reimbursed accordingly.
Or, CCP would just not give you the AUR back that was used for SP.
Either way, we can argue all day long about loopholes and wording and legal claims about the writing on a simple description.
The fact stands that getting double the AUR (basically) while paying for one purchase is unfair both to CCP, and other players who may not have bought AUR yet.
And you may say 'BUT THEY GOTTA REWARD US FOR PAYING", well the only reward you get for being part of the beta is about 4-10 million SP when the game launches, and a slew of suits and items.
The choice should be mine though no? Did anyone consider maybe I would rather have the AUR than the SP? |
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Posted - 2013.04.27 23:00:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:You said you "didn't expect to pay AUR for a beta".
Last I checked, you also didn't expect to get your SP/Items back.
Here is the thing. Please, look at it from a business viewpoint, not BS victimized stuff.
You bought AUR. You used AUR. You retain the SP, and ISK gained from using AUR items.
If you were to be reimbursed the AUR, to make it "legally fair" (as in, no buy one, get one free deal), the SP gained from AUR boosters, and your KD and all AUR items would need to be removed from your account, and the AUR would be reimbursed accordingly.
Or, CCP would just not give you the AUR back that was used for SP.
Either way, we can argue all day long about loopholes and wording and legal claims about the writing on a simple description.
The fact stands that getting double the AUR (basically) while paying for one purchase is unfair both to CCP, and other players who may not have bought AUR yet.
And you may say 'BUT THEY GOTTA REWARD US FOR PAYING", well the only reward you get for being part of the beta is about 4-10 million SP when the game launches, and a slew of suits and items. Logic? on the dust general section? GTFO  Noc knew fully well they werent resetting AUR and not to waste it but hey **** logic right?
They said it was the last SP reset. They never said anything about AUR. |
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Posted - 2013.04.27 23:24:00 -
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Spademan wrote:I dont understand it. When you preorder a game, you don't get two copies of it, you get one.
Why should you get the aurum back? Especially when there was a statement some time back that the final aurum reset has happened.
The statement was it was the final SP reset. CCP didn't say anything about AUR until the players asked for clarification, and then shocked us by saying we silently went into commercial release before open beta even started.
So CCP has never once given a straight answer on this subject. And AUR is the bottom line so it should have the highest priority when dealing with the community. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 03:40:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Just so we have the relevant info: http://www.dust411.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/MercPackTerms.jpgMerc Pack was originally promoted as a "credit" of all Merc Pack contents on every reset AND at commercial release. Not "including" commercial release, and not "maybe if we feel like it" for commercial release. There's no ambiguity in the terms used. Merc Pack contents - or an equivalent value - needs to be credited back. Any items used up by people who bought the Merc Pack under those terms are to be credited back to them. If you still have the item (like most will for their Dragonfly suits and Toxin SMGs), it's going to still be there. It's legitimate for CCP to say that any boosters are being credited back with the SP reset on May 6th, and that they're giving you SP to the value of what you earned with the booster(s) purchased. It's also legitimate to scrap any (or all) items in the Merc Pack and give us ISK or AUR value of those items or their nearest equivalent. You missed out where it says that "CCP has the right to do whatever the **** it wants".
That clause doesn't exist. Seriously.
They have the right to change the EULA in the future. That doesn't mean they can make an illegal change or that we are forced to accept the changes retroactively (obviously refusing will lock you out of the game going forward, but they can't say you now owe 3x the sub fee because we changed the EULA or you can't play). |
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