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Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
150
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Posted - 2013.04.27 08:32:00 -
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Honestly, if at the end of every match, we all took a newberry in a starter corp who went 5/0 under our wing for 15 minutes, they probably wouldn't hate it so much. The other day me and my squad of bunnies took a totally random new player into our squad and just by having our guidance and us to watch his back, he was going 7/2, 10/1, and 14/4. The guy barely had one million SP, but just having the guidance and a few guardian engels helped him out a lot. This is the quickest fix to the newberry slaughterfest.
What a lot of us forget is how lost we were when we all started out. I had no idea what corporations were, what core skills were, or what OMS meant. Only when vets took time to help me out did I finally start going positive.
Tonight, all trolling aside, I want everyone who reads this to spend 15 minutes showing a guy in the Kinsho Swords what the sharpshooter skill does and why he doesn't need to invest in nova knives or dropships.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJgQ39jCNIU&feature=youtu.be |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
99
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:01:00 -
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People like you are good for the game, and for the newberries. +1. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
158
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:03:00 -
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Yes, newberries can be valuable allies and not just fodder to pad your KDR |
Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
153
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:06:00 -
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I'm absolutely sick of all these tryhards smashing newberries. We can't fix the pub stompers, but we can help those getting stomped. |
Rusticuls
ATHEIST's For XENU
35
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:14:00 -
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I think some of the stuff in uprising should help, cloaking, new spawn UI, PC occupying everyone else, etc... But these sort of things do help a lot. I get super frustrated in matches where im going 5/7 so just getting pubstomped is a nightmare. Of course I have a insane hatred of MD's so that doesn't help. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
100
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:16:00 -
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Rusticuls wrote:I think some of the stuff in uprising should help, cloaking, new spawn UI, PC occupying everyone else, etc... But these sort of things do help a lot. I get super frustrated in matches where im going 5/7 so just getting pubstomped is a nightmare. Of course I have a insane hatred of MD's so that doesn't help.
I'm hoping the new spawn stuff will be fantastic for the new players. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
366
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:19:00 -
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Remember you can also point newberries to the training corps such as
Bojo's School of the Trades
or
Dust University (sorry couldnt find link).
Good work thought Charlotte! |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens EoN.
450
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:46:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm absolutely sick of all these tryhards smashing newberries. We can't fix the pub stompers, but we can help those getting stomped.
I see a red, I shoot him. It generally turns into a pub stomp. Not sure how I'm supposed to fix my behavior, maybe back out until I see some talent on the other team? |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
991
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:50:00 -
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Yeah, I think the "people should help inexperienced blues" point starts to get lost in the "I am sick of pubstompers" digression.
Experienced players can't and shouldn't avoid pubstomping. The part of your point that seems valid to me is that experienced players should support the newberries on their team and hope that the opposing team is doing the same to balance things out. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
163
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Posted - 2013.04.27 10:05:00 -
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I feel like we should make a Sponsor a Newberry commercial or something:
"This is little LovesToSpooge6969, and he's an aspiring new mercenary. But unfortunately his journey through immortality will be wracked with pub stomps and getting three shotted by mod stacked Duvolles on a daily basis. Eventually, he may quit altogether and go back to the casual world of CoD. That's where you come in... With as little as 1000,000ISK and a little free time you can help young LovesToSpooge6969 with the proper care and education he needs to be the best killing machine he can be. That's right, for half the rewards from a skirmish battle you can help young LovesToSpooge6969 and any other newberry like him climb the steep jagged learning cliff that is Dust 514. Just for your donation and free time you'll receive weekly private messages asking if you have rf1 and reports on his increasing KDR, without even having to wait for your contact list to load. Be sure to act now, because if you don't LovesToSpooge6969 and others like him will never last long enough in this game to enjoy the rush of passion one gets from killing a Protobear and teabagging his fresh corpse until he bleeds out."
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Orion Decline
Reckoners
27
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Posted - 2013.04.27 11:53:00 -
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So.... my Corp is full of lunatics and idiots (I should know, I'm an idiot and a lunatic, and I'm our CEO), but we already do this.
We aren't the best, most of us don't have Protogear, and the few who do rarely bring it out, but we know how to coordinate within a squad and support the team. We still sometimes get protostomped, but we have fun even when that happens. But when a new Reckoner joins us in DUST, or when a random stranger fills that empty slot in the squad, we try to make them welcome with some friendly advice - and if they're more experienced than us, we ask for pointers, which can then be passed on to others. |
Schalac 17
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
25
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Posted - 2013.04.27 12:43:00 -
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I still don't know what OMS means. I think Old Man Star everytime I see it. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1313
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Posted - 2013.04.27 12:45:00 -
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Losing can be a fun growth experience, but only if the game gives you the tools to learn from each loss on how to not lose in the same situation the next time. It actually seems Uprising may directly address this, it is one of their bullet points, but they did not explain how they were doing it. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
294
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Posted - 2013.04.27 12:49:00 -
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So because you carried him in game he went positive?
This game is not hard, ffs if players actually read and looked around before herping into the 1st game then they can educate themseleves |
DS 10
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
200
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Posted - 2013.04.27 12:56:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:I still don't know what OMS means. I think Old Man Star everytime I see it.
I think it's Off Map Support or something like that.
And that's my video in the OP! Hahah. I like this idea. One way that you can do it is go into team chat and ask if anyone wants to squad up. You may not get anyone, but generally people are jumping at the chance to actually play WITH other people. |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
254
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:41:00 -
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Good post. So. Very. Fluffy. And Pink.
Seriously, though, I agree 100%. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
170
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:14:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I feel like we should make a Sponsor a Newberry commercial or something:
"This is little LovesToSpooge6969, and he's an aspiring new mercenary. But unfortunately his journey through immortality will be wracked with pub stomps and getting three shotted by mod stacked Duvolles on a daily basis. Eventually, he may quit altogether and go back to the casual world of CoD. That's where you come in... With as little as 100,000ISK and a little free time you can help young LovesToSpooge6969 with the proper care and education he needs to be the best killing machine he can be. That's right, for half the rewards from a skirmish battle you can help young LovesToSpooge6969 and any other newberry like him climb the steep jagged learning cliff that is Dust 514. Just for your donation and free time you'll receive weekly private messages asking if you have rf1 and reports on his increasing KDR, without even having to wait for your contact list to load. Be sure to act now, because if you don't LovesToSpooge6969 and others like him will never last long enough in this game to enjoy the rush of passion one gets from killing a Protobear and teabagging his fresh corpse until he bleeds out."
This is pretty accurate. If CCP doesn't give new players a "newberry zone", this game won't last a year after release. If going 25/0 against newberries gets you off then go right ahead. For the rest of you, sponsor a newberry today. |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
48
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:56:00 -
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This is a start, but honestly I think the best thing we can do for new players is to direct them to the Corps. When I first started dust, it was an intense experience, there was lots of dying and confusion. However, by chance I started reading the forums and found that Dust Uni was recruiting. Although I only spent a week there, the time was extremely valuable. Just having a group of knowledgeable and helpful mercs around you can help increase your game ten-fold.
In regards to the pu-bstopming, it just becomes a grind. I know a lot of mercs who go from one game to the next almost on autopilot and unfortunately with the current matchmaking I'd say the majority of the games are ROFLstomps. I maybe get 5 out 50 matches a day that are challenging.
I think its commendable what you are doing Charlotte, I just hope this is more than a one time occurrence and not something that is being turned into a, "hey look at me, I'm great because I helped the needy."
Something does need to be done to help the newer players, however, I'm also in support of trial by fire as that is how I learned. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
170
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:00:00 -
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I'm gonna be the Angelina Jolie of Dust. |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
49
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:01:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm gonna be the Angelina Jolie of Dust.
You would first need to have a love affair with your brother though :S |
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Peksecutioner
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:08:00 -
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Your ideas are commendable, but the truth is most of the vets in this game love pubstomping on noobs. It makes them feel powerful, a feeling they can't ever achieve in their unsatisfactory real lives. Because lets be honest, this game caters to no lifers and the unemployed. A regular "casual" (stupid term btw) gamer who only has an hour a day or a handful of hours a week to play this game will continue to get stomped on for a very long time. There is really no reason to keep on playing when there are so many shooters out there that are way better at everything and don't require grinding. Everyone loves to claim how this game takes so much skill, how the CODberries can't hack it, yet it's really the complete opposite. Keep on grinding for that SP and eventually you can be a battlefield god no matter how much you suck at FPS games. |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
49
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:32:00 -
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Peksecutioner wrote:Your ideas are commendable, but the truth is most of the vets in this game love pubstomping on noobs. It makes them feel powerful, a feeling they can't ever achieve in their unsatisfactory real lives. Because lets be honest, this game caters to no lifers and the unemployed. A regular "casual" (stupid term btw) gamer who only has an hour a day or a handful of hours a week to play this game will continue to get stomped on for a very long time. There is really no reason to keep on playing when there are so many shooters out there that are way better at everything and don't require grinding. Everyone loves to claim how this game takes so much skill, how the CODberries can't hack it, yet it's really the complete opposite. Keep on grinding for that SP and eventually you can be a battlefield god no matter how much you suck at FPS games.
The real problem, and why pub stomping happens so much is the lack of teamwork. Most of the newberries lonewolf, rarely backing up their team or providing adequate medical attention. Further, even if there are multiple squads, most of the squads rarely use tactics, or at least flank. If your on the loosing side, especially one that has been slaughtered, pay attention to how the opponent plays. Most of the time they are not just fighting you straight on, they usually have long-range support, assault pushing from all sides and a logi (or more) providing ammo/armor.
I can't tell you how many times the majority of blueberries on my side refuse to help, rather they just charge straight at the opponent getting slaughtered again and again. This isn't COD where it's all about you and your KD, this is a team game where the victory is dependent on how well a team works together.
Also, if you can't figure out how to win with even the basic tools then you are just as much a scrub as the people your raging against. Instead of constantly complaining how hard it is, or how you can't catch up to the no-lifers, or why you can't succeed because you don't have the greatest equipment, practice. Spend sometime watching how others play and if possible squad up with different people.
The reason there is such animosity towards COD players is they come in to this game thinking it's the same thing, believing they can fight alone. But this is a team game and one that I guess is to complex for COD players.
Good luck,
Osiris. |
Peksecutioner
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:39:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:Peksecutioner wrote:Your ideas are commendable, but the truth is most of the vets in this game love pubstomping on noobs. It makes them feel powerful, a feeling they can't ever achieve in their unsatisfactory real lives. Because lets be honest, this game caters to no lifers and the unemployed. A regular "casual" (stupid term btw) gamer who only has an hour a day or a handful of hours a week to play this game will continue to get stomped on for a very long time. There is really no reason to keep on playing when there are so many shooters out there that are way better at everything and don't require grinding. Everyone loves to claim how this game takes so much skill, how the CODberries can't hack it, yet it's really the complete opposite. Keep on grinding for that SP and eventually you can be a battlefield god no matter how much you suck at FPS games. The real problem, and why pub stomping happens so much is the lack of teamwork. Most of the newberries lonewolf, rarely backing up their team or providing adequate medical attention. Further, even if there are multiple squads, most of the squads rarely use tactics, or at least flank. If your on the loosing side, especially one that has been slaughtered, pay attention to how the opponent plays. Most of the time they are not just fighting you straight on, they usually have long-range support, assault pushing from all sides and a logi (or more) providing ammo/armor. I can't tell you how many times the majority of blueberries on my side refuse to help, rather they just charge straight at the opponent getting slaughtered again and again. This isn't COD where it's all about you and your KD, this is a team game where the victory is dependent on how well a team works together. Also, if you can't figure out how to win with even the basic tools then you are just as much a scrub as the people your raging against. Instead of constantly complaining how hard it is, or how you can't catch up to the no-lifers, or why you can't succeed because you don't have the greatest equipment, practice. Spend sometime watching how others play and if possible squad up with different people. The reason there is such animosity towards COD players is they come in to this game thinking it's the same thing, believing they can fight alone. But this is a team game and one that I guess is to complex for COD players. Good luck, Osiris.
I never said anything about this game being hard. I find it to be really easy actually, way easier than other shooters. Other shooters are more skillbased, this game is not. Most of my deaths come from facing people with far superiour gear, such as my Exile AR against a Duvolle with stacked damage mods. Is it really my fault that I lose that fight nearly every time even when I get the jump on them? They have play-to-win gear, I have junk. It is what it is. Other common ways of dying is the spotty hit detection, unloading an entire magazine into someone only for it to no damage and then they kill me. Or jumping around on the terrain and "falling" to my death from 3 inches in the air because of invisible walls and terrain glitches. Otherwise, I don't think the people that play this game are all that good, the best FPS gamers out there are playing other games. I haven't even mentioned yet the massive advantage most vet players have by playing with mouse and keyboard... |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
49
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:50:00 -
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Peksecutioner wrote:Osiris Ausare wrote:Peksecutioner wrote:Your ideas are commendable, but the truth is most of the vets in this game love pubstomping on noobs. It makes them feel powerful, a feeling they can't ever achieve in their unsatisfactory real lives. Because lets be honest, this game caters to no lifers and the unemployed. A regular "casual" (stupid term btw) gamer who only has an hour a day or a handful of hours a week to play this game will continue to get stomped on for a very long time. There is really no reason to keep on playing when there are so many shooters out there that are way better at everything and don't require grinding. Everyone loves to claim how this game takes so much skill, how the CODberries can't hack it, yet it's really the complete opposite. Keep on grinding for that SP and eventually you can be a battlefield god no matter how much you suck at FPS games. The real problem, and why pub stomping happens so much is the lack of teamwork. Most of the newberries lonewolf, rarely backing up their team or providing adequate medical attention. Further, even if there are multiple squads, most of the squads rarely use tactics, or at least flank. If your on the loosing side, especially one that has been slaughtered, pay attention to how the opponent plays. Most of the time they are not just fighting you straight on, they usually have long-range support, assault pushing from all sides and a logi (or more) providing ammo/armor. I can't tell you how many times the majority of blueberries on my side refuse to help, rather they just charge straight at the opponent getting slaughtered again and again. This isn't COD where it's all about you and your KD, this is a team game where the victory is dependent on how well a team works together. Also, if you can't figure out how to win with even the basic tools then you are just as much a scrub as the people your raging against. Instead of constantly complaining how hard it is, or how you can't catch up to the no-lifers, or why you can't succeed because you don't have the greatest equipment, practice. Spend sometime watching how others play and if possible squad up with different people. The reason there is such animosity towards COD players is they come in to this game thinking it's the same thing, believing they can fight alone. But this is a team game and one that I guess is to complex for COD players. Good luck, Osiris. I never said anything about this game being hard. I find it to be really easy actually, way easier than other shooters. Other shooters are more skillbased, this game is not. Most of my deaths come from facing people with far superiour gear, such as my Exile AR against a Duvolle with stacked damage mods. Is it really my fault that I lose that fight nearly every time even when I get the jump on them? They have play-to-win gear, I have junk. It is what it is. Other common ways of dying is the spotty hit detection, unloading an entire magazine into someone only for it to no damage and then they kill me. Or jumping around on the terrain and "falling" to my death from 3 inches in the air because of invisible walls and terrain glitches. Otherwise, I don't think the people that play this game are all that good, the best FPS gamers out there are playing other games. I haven't even mentioned yet the massive advantage most vet players have by playing with mouse and keyboard...
One thing you have to remember is we are still in beta, and yes there are a lot of weird and pointless glitches, but this is still a beta.
In regards to your comment, essentially yes it is, there are ways to kill them, it might not be easy but it can still be done you just need to think about how to approach it (I might not be the greatest FPS player but I run cheap fits and can still hold my own against protobears) . Further, it also depends on how you are spending your skill points as there are a lot of passive skills that will increase your armor/shields (you have to remember this is both an FPS and an MMO so some of the skill also comes in how you build you fit). Again, as I said above instead of complaining why you constantly die, why not try to think of ways you can deal with it, whether it be the weapon being used, items, play style, or even the people you are squading with.
Lastly, I know quite a few former MLG players that are currently playing Dust and all of the them are very skilled.
I will reiterate this once again, your opponents are not invincible, you just need to think about how you can kill them as well as learn the positive and negatives of the items you use.
Osiris. |
Peksecutioner
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:55:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:
One thing you have to remember is we are still in beta, and yes there are a lot of weird and pointless glitches, but this is still a beta.
In regards to your comment, essentially yes it is, there are ways to kill them, it might not be easy but it can still be done you just need to think about how to approach it (I might not be the greatest FPS player but I run cheap fits and can still hold my own against protobears) . Further, it also depends on how you are spending your skill points as there are a lot of passive skills that will increase your armor/shields (you have to remember this is both an FPS and an MMO so some of the skill also comes in how you build you fit). Again, as I said above instead of complaining why you constantly die, why not try to think of ways you can deal with it, whether it be the weapon being used, items, play style, or even the people you are squading with.
Lastly, I know quite a few former MLG players that are currently playing Dust and all of the them are very skilled.
I will reiterate this once again, your opponents are not invincible, you just need to think about how you can kill them as well as learn the positive and negatives of the items you use.
Osiris.
I never said I die constantly, you said that, and please don't talk to me in a condescending manner like I have no idea what skills to put SP into or don't understand common shooters tactics to kill higher level players.
Even with all the glitches, terrible gunplay, terrible graphics, terrible audio, terrible everything, the worst thing about this game without a doubt is the COMMUNITY.
You win ok, you win the argument, I give up. |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
50
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:00:00 -
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Peksecutioner wrote:Osiris Ausare wrote:
One thing you have to remember is we are still in beta, and yes there are a lot of weird and pointless glitches, but this is still a beta.
In regards to your comment, essentially yes it is, there are ways to kill them, it might not be easy but it can still be done you just need to think about how to approach it (I might not be the greatest FPS player but I run cheap fits and can still hold my own against protobears) . Further, it also depends on how you are spending your skill points as there are a lot of passive skills that will increase your armor/shields (you have to remember this is both an FPS and an MMO so some of the skill also comes in how you build you fit). Again, as I said above instead of complaining why you constantly die, why not try to think of ways you can deal with it, whether it be the weapon being used, items, play style, or even the people you are squading with.
Lastly, I know quite a few former MLG players that are currently playing Dust and all of the them are very skilled.
I will reiterate this once again, your opponents are not invincible, you just need to think about how you can kill them as well as learn the positive and negatives of the items you use.
Osiris.
I never said I die constantly, you said that, and please don't talk to me in a condescending manner like I have no idea what skills to put SP into or don't understand common shooters tactics to kill higher level players. Even with all the glitches, terrible gunplay, terrible graphics, terrible audio, terrible everything, the worst thing about this game without a doubt is the COMMUNITY. You win ok, you win the argument, I give up.
I don't mean to be condescending and I'm sorry. |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
50
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:04:00 -
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Peksecutioner wrote:Osiris Ausare wrote:
One thing you have to remember is we are still in beta, and yes there are a lot of weird and pointless glitches, but this is still a beta.
In regards to your comment, essentially yes it is, there are ways to kill them, it might not be easy but it can still be done you just need to think about how to approach it (I might not be the greatest FPS player but I run cheap fits and can still hold my own against protobears) . Further, it also depends on how you are spending your skill points as there are a lot of passive skills that will increase your armor/shields (you have to remember this is both an FPS and an MMO so some of the skill also comes in how you build you fit). Again, as I said above instead of complaining why you constantly die, why not try to think of ways you can deal with it, whether it be the weapon being used, items, play style, or even the people you are squading with.
Lastly, I know quite a few former MLG players that are currently playing Dust and all of the them are very skilled.
I will reiterate this once again, your opponents are not invincible, you just need to think about how you can kill them as well as learn the positive and negatives of the items you use.
Osiris.
I never said I die constantly, you said that, and please don't talk to me in a condescending manner like I have no idea what skills to put SP into or don't understand common shooters tactics to kill higher level players. Even with all the glitches, terrible gunplay, terrible graphics, terrible audio, terrible everything, the worst thing about this game without a doubt is the COMMUNITY. You win ok, you win the argument, I give up.
If you still have even the slightest interest left in the game, it might be worth till waiting until the next build releases, as CCP will be fixing a lot of the bugs, changing the graphics, adding a new game mode, more weapons and items as well as other things.
And if you want to try to continue playing during this build, the first thing I would suggest doing is join a Corp, it doesn't matter what corp you join, but being with other players and being a part of the community will definitely add to the game-play experience. |
Peksecutioner
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:18:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:
If you still have even the slightest interest left in the game, it might be worth till waiting until the next build releases, as CCP will be fixing a lot of the bugs, changing the graphics, adding a new game mode, more weapons and items as well as other things.
And if you want to try to continue playing during this build, the first thing I would suggest doing is join a Corp, it doesn't matter what corp you join, but being with other players and being a part of the community will definitely add to the game-play experience.
Yea, I've already decided I'm going to wait to reserve my final judgement on this game until the next build rolls out. Because a lot of the new added features and fixes do look interesting. I'm just hoping it's enough to outweigh the problems with this game. |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
50
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:45:00 -
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Peksecutioner wrote:Osiris Ausare wrote:
If you still have even the slightest interest left in the game, it might be worth till waiting until the next build releases, as CCP will be fixing a lot of the bugs, changing the graphics, adding a new game mode, more weapons and items as well as other things.
And if you want to try to continue playing during this build, the first thing I would suggest doing is join a Corp, it doesn't matter what corp you join, but being with other players and being a part of the community will definitely add to the game-play experience.
Yea, I've already decided I'm going to wait to reserve my final judgement on this game until the next build rolls out. Because a lot of the new added features and fixes do look interesting. I'm just hoping it's enough to outweigh the problems with this game.
If you can see if you can join a corp before hand, so that when Planetary Conquest starts you will have a place to fight for.
Whatever the case good luck and have fun :)
Osiris. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
19
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:17:00 -
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i dont see what all of the fuss about proto gear is... its annoying when you face a full squad of them with the viziam lasers... but that is the nature of the game, you arent always going to be facing fights you want to deal with, the problem that remains is, 'what are you going to do about it', i see viziams cut me in half more than a couple times, i bust out a thales and start day wrecking.
case and point, i started out a match with the thales, trying to burn them to comply with my OCD of having my suit fits all end in zeros, and i posted up on an obvious snipers tower, and spent the entire match there... 42/1 ... thales is OP, stacked damage mods are OP, but several snipers knew where i was and were avoiding me to save their KDR and their proto snipers, one individual, whos name i can not remember(nor should i post if i did), i remember was running a heavy suit, started out as an advanced, he wore that for a couple of deaths, then he busted out he standard, wore that for a couple more deaths, and by the end of the match was all the way to a dire sentinel fit... running forge guns and HMGs the ENTIRE round... his response to me picking him off at least half a dozen times? he sent me hate mail, was something along the lines of "B***h come down here p****y"...
what i guess im losing sight of saying, just because you normally run your proto HMG, have other suits to change your play style on the fly if needed to deal with opponents who are using superior(or cheaper) tactics and higher tier equipment.
you dont even need to spend a lot of sp or isk on the alternative builds, a militia sniper is surprisingly effective and cheap method of staying safely out of range of lasers, forge guns, and mass drivers, avoiding proto suits, among other things. strongly encourage mouse usage, its easy-mode for sniping. -Advice: charge sniper rifle works best for the price IMO, stronger than a proto sniper but only costs lvl2 sniper operation, all you have to do is get used to holding the charge, i am not a fan of the tactical 3 round clips.
logistics suits are also great, slap together a militia logi suit(or 'sever' if you got the aur)with a militia nanite and repair tool. you dont even need to be good at shooting or getting shot to gain tons of war points AND contribute positively to the team by saving clones and allowing battle battered suits have higher chances of success in firefights. -Comments: militia logi is quick and cheap access to 2 equip slots, nanite injector and repair tool works best in the limited slots and a lot of people already carry nanohives, the sever or type-1 allows a nanohive or drop uplink to be caried as well.
a dire sentinel starter fit for new players, or a milita forge/swarm launcher fit to heckle enemy vehicles, you will be more likely to get that shiny sagaris kill than the guys still runnin their duvolle assault rifles, and at very least you have a better chance of making them think twice about literally rolling through your teams positions -Example: 1 point heavy drop suit, 1 point forge gun, 1 point grenadier for AV grenades, roughly 150k sp 40k isk AV fit
all else fails, if you cant beat em, join em, at least then you will have some smug satisfaction of being the new bully who picked on the old you, at which point the rest of us dont have to feel guilty about taking shiny proto lasers from you.
*disclaimer* i am terrible at this game, i make no claim to be any better than the newberries who try honestly, but i feel no pity for the 'high skill' individuals(read adv/proto users) who make no attempt to adapt to the battlefield around them. |
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undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Some of you are right some of you are wrong. Who ever says proto gear wins matches not skill come say that to my dragonfly, or my A series. Skill is alive and real in dust just like any other shooter. Proto gear does help alot im not saying that, but if you skill properly and learn to fit suits so you can tank or deal dmg, and most importantly learn to strafe you can kill anyone with anything.
Now noobs have it hard, this game is big and confusing to new players. With that said instead of taking one person at a time and training them I want you guys to read the post im going to put up in a few min. You will know the one. |
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